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SeanWong
post Nov 4 2009, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 4 2009, 09:50 AM)
i will play again tonight as i feel the pace of the game sometimes is fine sometimes 2 fast like on turbo mode. Arsenal really have low stats again this year WTF. what mode u play in sean? i play in top player mode and find that AI like to 1 touch in the midlle always... lolz
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I play superstar level. Try play against Man Utd you will know how superior Van der Sar in saving goal. tongue.gif Yeah i notice some team will force you to play in fast pace, some will be in slow pace. it's good coz just like real life football that every team have their own strategy that made your players to adapt and change style accordingly. Just like real life football team, you v.s. EPL team their pace is fast, you v.s. La Liga team their pace is slower but more technically play.

QUOTE(pojiekun @ Nov 4 2009, 10:09 AM)
Tepi2 smua....LEGEND has spoken.

Why u didnt mention Man Utd in the same category sean  mad.gif .

BTW, nice review bro. When u r saying something is missing in balancing up attacking and defending approach, i do feel this has to do with the tactical slider. Well its not easy to fine tune the tactics n strategy that really goes well with us. So need to explore a lot it seem. Why posman didnt show up in my office yet? Cant wait la  sleep.gif
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Man Utd i only feel the goal keeper Van der Sar is in superb form and really can save lot of must-score goal. Other than that i can see Ronney is quiet tough to handle. Maybe due to Ronaldo departure the team was not as strong as last time? tongue.gif

QUOTE(Klesk @ Nov 4 2009, 10:38 AM)
just played it last nite. bought it from SAGE at Jaya One. First thing i must say is that it's a great improvement since the demo as the dreaded input lag has totally vanished...(breathe sigh of relief).
In terms of graphic, it's the best ever I've seen with the amount of details on player's faces especially Torres and Messi very lifelike expression. and they overhauled the Menu which becomes more intuitive and user friendly. gotta love the new menu screen.
With the gameplay, I felt it's a huge overhaul from 2009. I'm not sure some of you kept repeating that you felt like playing 2009 all over again when the movement/physics is totally different!!! maybe you guys don play enough 2009 in the first place. First thing i've notice is the passing which i felt has improved ten folds. You can now make killer pass that slots in between defenders to reach out on your strikers and strikers like torres/ibrahimovice makes good run into the box so it's only up to you to time your pass to perfection.
In terms of shooting this has been improved as well as you see more goals that goes in after bouncing of goalkeepers which i feel i don't really see in 2009 especially when player such as Rooney fires from close range.
Despite this i felt letdown somewhat especially when they tone down star players especially Ronaldo, you can't really torment the defense like you used to. The shot feint especially which i rely a lot in 2009 looks very odd and doesn't allow you to ghost pass defenders. And the movement sometimes looks buggy that seems like the player is surfing on the pitch. very unnatural for me.
Another gripe is when players are closed down by defenders they tend to become clumsy and lose out on possession when they're receiving a pass. I noticed that holding down the R2 help somewhat to help the player find some footing before deciding to dribble/shoot/pass. So as expected from the earlier reviews with the defensive nature of the game this has received a boost too. When your center forward receive a ball you need to quickly find space to fire a shot almost intuitively else you'll be closed down by defenders in no time.
So i would agree when people say that the game now relies more towards teamwork and tactical wizardry rather than just relying on key players to run at defenders as even players like messi/ronaldo can be easily subdued when they ran onto defenders
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agree on most of the part you mentioned. I think you also noticed huh? nod.gif It's totally diff with WE2009. Some player like Fabregas can perform killer pinpoint through pass to teammate. And you see a lot of diff shooting animation from the players as well.

I think now we can't just too rely on R1 to sprint and dribble pass the opponent like before (although in some case if you well use of it can help you overtaking opponent). Like you said, in build up play, you have to let go R1, or press R2 to control the ball well and then you can do a proper passing. Otherwise you can try holding R1 all the time you can easily loose the ball, or sometime dribble too much until your opponent intercept the ball.

Thats why the gameplay has been slow down due to you cant always use sprint button. Otherwise you will tends to loose lots of ball which made you frustrated.

From now onwards we have to change our style of play, not just sprint, sprint, sprint, pass, pass, pass faster and score like last time. It's good sign that we slowly build up our play, battle through midfield and find opportunity to feed unmarked striker to score.

Thats i called realism icon_rolleyes.gif

P/S: guys remember to change commentary to JP then you will feel even more realism icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by SeanWong: Nov 4 2009, 11:25 AM
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:20 AM

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WE 2010 is in english right?
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(me076310 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:20 AM)
WE 2010 is in english right?
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you can choose the language when 1st time running the game
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:22 AM

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hi guys im new here...and already bought this game...so tonite the server will on eh?
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 4 2009, 10:57 AM)
Nvm lar tommorow u get your copy, straight away can play online... hahaha  icon_idea.gif
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For offline only i have try the PC version ad. tongue.gif

QUOTE(nagakeciks @ Nov 4 2009, 11:10 AM)
come to my house la , we try offline multiplayer 1st  tongue.gif

but my setup is simple setup only , 2.1 sound system with 24" lcd monitor  blink.gif
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Tak mau lah... takut u rape i macam u buat kat KZ2. laugh.gif

QUOTE(kabuto rider kick @ Nov 4 2009, 11:11 AM)
now all thats left to comment on is the Online play,5 Nov cant comes any faster arrghhh cry.gif the key whether this year is hot or it's not
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Dun expect too high... but sure it will be better than 2009 version. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sanchez69 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:22 AM)
hi guys im new here...and already bought this game...so tonite the server will on eh?
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Nolar. Konami will launch their servers in conjuction with Tonights Champions League match hehe... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SeanWong @ Nov 4 2009, 11:18 AM)
I play superstar level. Try play against Man Utd you will know how superior Van der Sar in saving goal.  tongue.gif Yeah i notice some team will force you to play in fast pace, some will be in slow pace. it's good coz just like real life football that every team have their own strategy that made your players to adapt and change style accordingly. Just like real life football team, you v.s. EPL team their pace is fast, you v.s. La Liga team their pace is slower but more technically play.
Man Utd i only feel the goal keeper Van der Sar is in superb form and really can save lot of must-score goal. Other than that i can see Ronney is quiet tough to handle. Maybe due to Ronaldo departure the team was not as strong as last time? tongue.gif
agree on most of the part you mentioned. I think you also noticed huh? nod.gif It's totally diff with WE2009. Some player like Fabregas can perform killer pinpoint through pass to teammate. And you see a lot of diff shooting animation from the players as well.

I think now we can't just too rely on R1 to sprint and dribble pass the opponent like before (although in some case if you well use of it can help you overtaking opponent). Like you said, in build up play, you have to let go R1, or press R2 to control the ball well and then you can do a proper passing. Otherwise you can try holding R1 all the time you can easily loose the ball, or sometime dribble too much until your opponent intercept the ball.

Thats why the gameplay has been slow down due to you cant always use sprint button. Otherwise you will tends to loose lots of ball which made you frustrated.

From now onwards we have to change our style of play, not just sprint, sprint, sprint, pass, pass, pass faster and score like last time. It's good sign that we slowly build up our play, battle through midfield and find opportunity to feed unmarked striker to score.

Thats i called realism icon_rolleyes.gif

P/S: guys remember to change commentary to JP then you will feel even more realism icon_rolleyes.gif
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How about card system, u try it yet ??
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:34 AM)
How about card system, u try it yet ??
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not yet. But will try tonight to see got any impact on the game or not.


Added on November 4, 2009, 11:40 am
QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 4 2009, 11:31 AM)
Nolar. Konami will launch their servers in conjuction with Tonights Champions League match hehe...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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even online server is on just dont put too much expectation on it 1st.

Coz konami sure need some time to cope with overload ppl, and fix any bugs found in online play. cool2.gif


Added on November 4, 2009, 11:49 amAnd for those who yet to watch this tutorial on how to take new penalty system in WE2010 icon_rolleyes.gif



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post Nov 4 2009, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(sanchez69 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:22 AM)
hi guys im new here...and already bought this game...so tonite the server will on eh?
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2nd hand? heheheheh


Added on November 4, 2009, 12:01 pm
QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:34 AM)
How about card system, u try it yet ??
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mm , i've try the card system , switching rooney from balance to attacking mode ... n the other card such as marseile roulete is just for viewing player ability ... if i'm not mistaken la.. and i think it does effect rooney on the pitch


Added on November 4, 2009, 12:02 pm
QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:28 AM)
For offline only i have try the PC version ad.  tongue.gif
Tak mau lah... takut u rape i macam u buat kat KZ2.  laugh.gif
Dun expect too high...  but sure it will be better than 2009 version.  smile.gif
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i never rape u in kz2 , just ringan2 ... but i know u are one of those people that will rape me in winning tongue.gif


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post Nov 4 2009, 12:20 PM

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My Review:

Graphics - Need not to mention much on this part of the game, it is arguably the best graphics for Football game. The player's faces looks really real even every minor details like facial hair, arm's hair. One thing in WE2010 compare to last year's version is that the shirt and pant has its own movement, it will move if the player move their body. Even though the movement of the jersey might be repeating, but it still looks good!

Sound - The sound and music has improved, not in a big margin but still there is improvement. New listen-able music on the menu screen and crowd's cheering is a little bit better. One thing i find it not so good is the sound of kicking ball is a bit too loud for my liking. Konami added a few more commentary lines but i think there is still room for improvement in commentary. Sometimes it says thing that you wasn't doing it, is kinda funny and frustrating at times.

Gameplay - This is the most important part of the game and is the part that a lot PES fans claim that is far more realistic than FIFA. I tried the demo and find it very frustrating to play it, one thing is that i'm used to PES2009 fast pace and superb ball control and i keep losing ball in WE2010. For my first 5 games, I've been drawing with teams like everton , aston villa, bolton with Manchester United on Professional difficulty.

But after some practice and I'm getting used to the game play and able to read the computer's movement. It is really enjoyable gameplay because the movement of players is very smooth and sometimes you really feel like you're playing the real player because they move exactly like their real life counter part. Is a little bit hard to tackle ball from opponent and they can run pass like 2 - 3 players like you never exists. Its pretty frustrating but you will have to practice more and get used to it. Then that's the time you start enjoying it =).
Keeper is better than PES2010 but sometimes i feel like they come out too far, example like opponent pass a long ball and its about to land just outside the penalty box, goal keeper will come out and stay very near to the ball and sometimes keeper will collide with the defender, or sometimes the computer's striker will just take a touch and push the ball pass the goal keeper easily.

Tactics - This year WE2010 has a big improvement in this area. I find the tactic slider is very useful. Depending to your playing style, you can set the tactic to make players support range close or wider, or make player's distance with opponent nearer or further and many more. It is also good to use it to counter your opponent's tactic. So spend some time trying it.

Overall - I'll give it a 8.5/10 because i feel there is room for improvement, but the game is good enough to last for another year biggrin.gif TRY THIS FOOTBALL LOVERS!

This post has been edited by jujx: Nov 4 2009, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(nagakeciks @ Nov 4 2009, 11:58 AM)
2nd hand? heheheheh


Added on November 4, 2009, 12:01 pm

mm , i've try the card system , switching rooney from balance to attacking mode ... n the other card such as marseile roulete is just for viewing player ability ... if i'm not mistaken la.. and i think it does effect rooney on the pitch


Added on November 4, 2009, 12:02 pm

i never rape u in kz2 , just ringan2 ... but i know u are one of those people that will rape me in winning  tongue.gif
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Me old ad...cannot trash ppl anymore, like Seabass said. laugh.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 4 2009, 12:51 PM)
Me old ad...cannot trash ppl anymore,  like Seabass said.  laugh.gif
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Ok, haha. Seriously, u guys try the konami stadium in night mode, raining + winter, its a shocker, sweat.gif


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post Nov 4 2009, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(jujx @ Nov 4 2009, 12:20 PM)
My Review:

Graphics - Need not to mention much on this part of the game, it is arguably the best graphics for Football game. The player's faces looks really real even every minor details like facial hair, arm's hair. One thing in WE2010 compare to last year's version is that the shirt and pant has its own movement, it will move if the player move their body. Even though the movement of the jersey might be repeating, but it still looks good!

Sound - The sound and music has improved, not in a big margin but still there is improvement. New listen-able music on the menu screen and crowd's cheering is a little bit better. One thing i find it not so good is the sound of kicking ball is a bit too loud for my liking. Konami added a few more commentary lines but i think there is still room for improvement in commentary. Sometimes it says thing that you wasn't doing it, is kinda funny and frustrating at times.

Gameplay - This is the most important part of the game and is the part that a lot PES fans claim that is far more realistic than FIFA. I tried the demo and find it very frustrating to play it, one thing is that i'm used to PES2009 fast pace and superb ball control and i keep losing ball in WE2010. For my first 5 games, I've been drawing with teams like everton , aston villa, bolton with Manchester United on Professional difficulty.

      But after some practice and I'm getting used to the game play and able to read the computer's movement. It is really enjoyable gameplay because the movement of players is very smooth and sometimes you really feel like you're playing the real player because they move exactly like their real life counter part. Is a little bit hard to tackle ball from opponent and they can run pass like 2 - 3 players like you never exists. Its pretty frustrating but you will have to practice more and get used to it. Then that's the time you start enjoying it =).
      Keeper is better than PES2010 but sometimes i feel like they come out too far, example like opponent pass a long ball and its about to land just outside the penalty box, goal keeper will come out and stay very near to the ball and sometimes keeper will collide with the defender, or sometimes the computer's striker will just take a touch and push the ball pass the goal keeper easily.

Tactics - This year WE2010 has a big improvement in this area. I find the tactic slider is very useful. Depending to your playing style, you can set the tactic to make players support range close or wider, or make player's distance with opponent nearer or further and many more. It is also good to use it to counter your opponent's tactic. So spend some time trying it.

Overall - I'll give it a 8.5/10 because i feel there is room for improvement, but the game is good enough to last for another year biggrin.gif TRY THIS FOOTBALL LOVERS!
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good review thumbup.gif Thats why i said you need time to get used to it if you already familiar with WE/PES2009 style of play.

Bro try to play in superstar difficulty then i think those you mentioned about goalkeeper not position well is gone and it's hard to score goal against them (at least for those top class keeper like Van der Sar, Buffon, Casillas)

And for the commentary part yes the Eng commentary is suck shakehead.gif . So change to JP commentary will solve the problem. JP commentary is so passionate and exciting rclxms.gif

And yeah i think the sound of kicking ball is a bit too loud. Konami should lower down the "thud" sound to be honest.. doh.gif

This post has been edited by SeanWong: Nov 4 2009, 01:06 PM
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miss my WE2010 in house...lol
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Hello and Good Afternoon!

Just got the game yesterday, tapi too bad belum sempat buka plastic lagi sebab balik kerja lewat cry.gif
Anyway add me up dalam list, looking forward to play multiplayer! cheers! thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(SeanWong @ Nov 4 2009, 01:03 PM)
good review  thumbup.gif

Bro try to play in superstar difficulty then i think those you mentioned about goalkeeper not position well is gone and it's hard to score goal against them (at least for those top class keeper like Van der Sar, Buffon, Casillas)

And for th ecommentary part yes the eng commentary is suck. So change to JP commentary will solve the problem. JP commentary is so passionate and exciting rclxms.gif

And yeah i think the sound of kicking ball is a bit too loud. Konami should lower down the "thud" sound franking speaking.. doh.gif
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Maybe bcoz JP commentary voice tempo are higher. ShoootooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....
Dunno what he talking about but really feel better n more exciting. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by nakata101: Nov 4 2009, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 4 2009, 01:08 PM)
Maybe bcoz JP commentary voice tempo are higher. ShoootooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....
Dunno what he talking about but really feel better n more exciting.  thumbup.gif
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got shebby singh commentary or not??... hahaha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 4 2009, 01:08 PM)
Maybe bcoz JP commentary voice tempo are higher. ShoootooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....
Dunno what he talking about but really feel better n more exciting.  thumbup.gif
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haha yes you will quickly noticed how diff the commentary between Eng and JP one, especially Jp commentary tends to talk much more and sound with high tempo nod.gif

Although i also dont understand what they are talking about but at least i can hear them mentioned player name more frequent than Eng commentary. Remember last time WE where got Eng commentary one, we so get used to JP commentary and so enjoy it when they shout "Shoooooooootooooo, Goalllllllllllllllllllll" haha rclxm9.gif

This post has been edited by SeanWong: Nov 4 2009, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 4 2009, 01:10 PM)
got shebby singh commentary or not??... hahaha  laugh.gif
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Better no... i will feel sleepy..... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 4 2009, 01:13 PM)
Better no... i will feel sleepy.....   laugh.gif
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so miss my WE2010 now..quickly pass 5.30 la sweat.gif

Yesterday play CL, wow all those cut-scene really make the atmosphere looks like you are watching TV livecast of CL drool.gif especially when players entering the pitch they will zoom in diff angle on certain players face, so real smile.gif

If later got OF that correct all those fake kits then it will be even more realism i think notworthy.gif

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