i'm leaning towards gearing up my holydin wit mail now...
especially from togc10 for the yummy extra gem slots and more towards mp5 over crit...
of course i'm an int stacker holydin so having extra gem slots is jz too tempting ><

Don't you use mana potions?

its only 1 pot per fight (not counting speed pot might be needed to kite anub)...
currently at 32k mana unbuffed...
with the mail pieces, i would be sitting at around 33-34k (provided i stack int gemming) with enuff mp5 while keeping my haste > 400...

the thing is, with the game evolved all this time - we have moved on from the idea of 'sticking to your class' idea

with more playstyle/offspec being made viable, it is reasonable to be geared for your choice of preference to be better at your job

while some roles like tanking would still be best suited in plate for paladins, DPS/Healing can often find better pieces in terms of mail, leather or even cloths

in fact, some of the BIS (Best In Slot) items for DPS/Healing arent plate either.

for a healing holy pally - i really dont see why you would want to stack mp5, as it is perhaps the lowest rated stat for healadin.

if somehow you are struggling with mana issues, pack up some crit and let illumination fly

from EJ, int > mp5 > crit in terms of mana since the illumination nerf...
thing i feel that i'm having too little mp5 now...
mana is totally fine (i was undergeared before this healing heroic) as long as i dun burst heal too much...
when i do burst heal, my mana jz drop like mad and in those moments, i could not risk a wipe with divine plea...
i'm at around 29-30% crit as a holy/prot holydin...

ya my ret is using leather cause there provide my ret with the optimum crit needed =)

well, the thing with EJ is - they are theorycrafters

while they can mathematicly provide numbers or spreadsheets how some stat is better or how you should do your spell rotation - those are best used/taken with a grain of salt

be it raids, heroics or even dungeons - situation changes from time to time. most raids have enrage timers, movement coordination, target swapping or even damage/healing control. plus we have more 'nature' elements have to factor in - skill level of your buddies(a huge factor if u pug alot), average gear level, and the dreaded latency.

so realisticly speaking - even if you are geared exactly to their spreadsheet, your raid/group experience would still vary as it might not be optimal for your raid instead

my advice is - while u can follow their 'golden rule' on how you get geared, its best you try out yourself which works best for you.

of course, there's still the basic standard requirement you must meet - no point having 2000mp5 but your heals sucked

Going anal on Int is required, up to certain point. My take is that if you are not having mana problems healing heroic modes or finish encounters with more than 10% mana, that means you are not doing/healing hard enough. Yeah the occasional random variables ( deaths, dc, oh sh*t moments) included. If you are not having any of that problems, it means that either you already out geared the content or have some other good healers backing you up.

Whether its mail or plate is a moot point. Balancing your throughput, longevity and leaving space for fcuku-ps are the key. Like the previous poster said, adapting is important. With the 3.2 Bacon changes its even more important to be flexible. Notice how the importance of mp5 changed with a patch.

I actually know a guy who had to drink twice after a wipe just because like he had like 40k+ mana buffed but cant even keep a t9 geared tank from being raped by algalon. That is just plain dumb.

true...
but actually going mail/ leather for healers would not affect urself much rite?
survivability and all?
cause i've been pretty much a true plate holydin (except when its a big upgrade)

mail,leather,cloth all good la. What u need to know what type of holydin u are? Hol spam or Fol spam.

Hol of course crit+int+mp5

Fol of course Haste+sp+int (u dont need mp5 much la..never oom)

so it doesnt matter what type of armor. As long others healers dont care if u loot mail,leather or even cloth then go ahead.

HL spammer holydin...
i'm actually not going to the t9.25 set for my holy now...
going all the non sey piece gear ><

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Added on October 25, 2009, 12:09 pmbtw perunding, i saw ur application into quantum...
are u planning to xfer back here?

my guild is LF for a holydin both in the main and the 2nd 25man raid team =p

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 25 2009, 12:09 PM

im going to loth again now. same name as before.

okies =p
see u in game...

Get INT INT INT INT INT PLATE INT INT INT INT INT INT

oh, someone actually showed some sense that EJ isnt the be all end all. even funnier when people brings EJ into pvp, rofl.

lol my holydin look damn ugly now ><
with the addition of a leather shoulders...
still 33.4k mana unbuffed is worth the ugliness lol...
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...aurissan&n=aeco

what are you serious?

some cloth are good like the crafted cloth wrist

I agree with you... after all you are healing, not tanking...

but I would like to see tauren wearing some cloth!

This post has been edited by penman: Nov 2 2009, 05:59 PM

tauren druid do it all the time

Tailor was the hot professions to have in vanilla for quite a lot of healadin, cloth is fine

Depends of stats on item anyway, armor is very secondary for healer, as paladin you have few ohshit buttons if you suddenly find yourself standing in a fire or something.
Amor is maybe going to save you a death once every blue moon, rest of time if you die in raids the hit you take is so huge or from magical source that armor wouldnt have change anything.