QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 21 2009, 02:50 AM)
Mara purchase 2 laptop price RM84,000, RM84,000 untuk 2 Laptop News
Mara purchase 2 laptop price RM84,000, RM84,000 untuk 2 Laptop News
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Oct 22 2009, 11:30 AM
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84k can make many toilets liao
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& they say, "PERTAHANKAN KETUANAN MELAYU"...
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Oct 22 2009, 11:55 AM
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Eat water too deep!
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Oct 22 2009, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(itchibawa kasigaru @ Oct 22 2009, 05:06 AM) And if so happen Mara did include AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops, it sounds very wrong.. - How do you justify installing AutoCad or any professional program in only two laptops is sounding very wrong?? I'm getting more and more baffled with your comments as if you're trying to sound more and more....... Professional software doesn't comes cheap and only those who needs it can justify the purchases of it. In any case, MARA might not even know what AutoCad is in given the mentality that "they've portrait" in such purchase! I don't know what are you trying to justify the expenses of Rm84k for the purchase of 2 lappy.Hahaha!! Gosh, you're making me sounding like I'm defending MARA for making such decision but please understand that I condemn corruption and corrupt practices very much. I'm just trying to make some sense in how such an amount for such asset acquisition can passed the account/finance side for approval in the first place. I'm more incline to discuss the technicality of the purchase than the morality of it. And yes, it sounded very suspicious but we could be really barking up the wrong tree mate! The argument of inclusive so call professional software or AUTOCAD really a big smack on your own face. Either you are questioning the credibility of the auditor or yourself have a very low IQ. For the purchase of equipment, everyone can make easy comparison between market price and quoted price. For me if there is fluctuation between 1%~5% is still acceptable but the auditor's report writtten the price paid is about 1000% more than market price. We only can question the auditor credibility after MARA give strong and solid evidence to justify the price paid for the 2 lappy. 2ndly, using professional/commercial software to be inclusive into the same quotation is the most unprofessional ethics. REASON : 1. Once it is inclusive into the hardware price, who going to give the software after sales support?The hardware supplier have to give this service instead of software maker. So again the hardware supplier jack up the software price again. (smart way to make more cut-throat $$$ with no responsibility in sense) 2. I checked the spec of the lappy sos kicap : http://www.laptopviews.com/acer-laptops/ac...-anwxmi-laptop/ the IGP definate can't support the AUTOCAD program smoothly. If use for education or presentation purpose, it will be phailed [in this case, that add 1 more reason y MARAs' grad so unemployable] 3. Software security greatly compromised. If really the $$$ is spent for the software, who would control the software's license?Having a retail license means I can resale the program to 3rd party. BTW the software license is belong to government. Getting the volume licensing policy is much more better in cost and software control. But then this license policy is only provided by software maker. If the hardware supplier can quote this license policy into their quotation, I believe its violate the business rights. Now I start to understand the "1Malaysia" thingy. It is just a propaganda to ensure all Malaysia to have 1digit IQ |
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Oct 22 2009, 12:00 PM
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Oct 22 2009, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Oct 22 2009, 11:55 AM) I don't know what are you trying to justify the expenses of Rm84k for the purchase of 2 lappy. please lah. the way you argue is so stupid that i lol....The argument of inclusive so call professional software or AUTOCAD really a big smack on your own face. Either you are questioning the credibility of the auditor or yourself have a very low IQ. For the purchase of equipment, everyone can make easy comparison between market price and quoted price. For me if there is fluctuation between 1%~5% is still acceptable but the auditor's report writtten the price paid is about 1000% more than market price. We only can question the auditor credibility after MARA give strong and solid evidence to justify the price paid for the 2 lappy. 2ndly, using professional/commercial software to be inclusive into the same quotation is the most unprofessional ethics. REASON : 1. Once it is inclusive into the hardware price, who going to give the software after sales support?The hardware supplier have to give this service instead of software maker. So again the hardware supplier jack up the software price again. (smart way to make more cut-throat $$$ with no responsibility in sense) 2. I checked the spec of the lappy sos kicap : http://www.laptopviews.com/acer-laptops/ac...-anwxmi-laptop/ the IGP definate can't support the AUTOCAD program smoothly. If use for education or presentation purpose, it will be phailed [in this case, that add 1 more reason y MARAs' grad so unemployable] 3. Software security greatly compromised. If really the $$$ is spent for the software, who would control the software's license?Having a retail license means I can resale the program to 3rd party. BTW the software license is belong to government. Getting the volume licensing policy is much more better in cost and software control. But then this license policy is only provided by software maker. If the hardware supplier can quote this license policy into their quotation, I believe its violate the business rights. Now I start to understand the "1Malaysia" thingy. It is just a propaganda to ensure all Malaysia to have 1digit IQ so what if the supplier bundle with software together, it makes his sservice outstand its competitor, that's why mara chose this supplier. if you have windows+office+autocad+3d studio max + photoshop ~ 48k, it worths the monay man.... |
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Oct 22 2009, 12:04 PM
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A laptop that makes coffee!
And irons your cloths too! |
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Oct 22 2009, 12:07 PM
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it is not a laptop.. it is a supercomputer d.. wonder who supplying it? which company? any1 care to korek?
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Oct 22 2009, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(tomcruise014 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:07 PM) i think if they really have original software included educational version is stupid..it suppose to use EDUCATIONAL license, it is DEFINITELY MUCH CHEAPER than real commercial license just like orcad and autocad. you gun for max if you want to master the skill, not half bucket one.... no wonder lah it';s 48k, and it's worth spent. mara finally open its eyes to invest more on R&D. syabas! |
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QUOTE(tomcruise014 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:07 PM) i think if they really have original software included agreed..it suppose to use EDUCATIONAL license, it is DEFINITELY MUCH CHEAPER than real commercial license if all the packages makes the price rm84,000, audit negara wouldnt giv a damn to ask... they should get cheaper AFAIK...dis is obviously overpriced... remember IKBN case...??? cheap screw driver bought at RM2** pricetag...??? same old, same old.... |
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Oct 22 2009, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:12 PM) agreed.. obviously? it is indeed overpriced!!! 4.2k in investment and the result is crappy laptop with crappy spec.if all the packages makes the price rm84,000, audit negara wouldnt giv a damn to ask... they should get cheaper AFAIK...dis is obviously overpriced... remember IKBN case...??? cheap screw driver bought at RM2** pricetag...??? same old, same old.... those peeps must have their brains in their pen*s; they can't really think unless blood being pumped, and when blood being pumped, they can't think straight!!! |
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Oct 22 2009, 12:24 PM
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18K for a 18.5' lcd monitor
i loled at this |
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Oct 22 2009, 12:27 PM
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laptop lagi... bukan desktop
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Oct 22 2009, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Oct 22 2009, 12:04 PM) please lah. the way you argue is so stupid that i lol.... Give me one company who can supply all the above software (OS not included)you mention.so what if the supplier bundle with software together, it makes his sservice outstand its competitor, that's why mara chose this supplier. if you have windows+office+autocad+3d studio max + photoshop ~ 48k, it worths the monay man.... Please no pirate/bootleg version. |
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