Most frame is manufacture by either Giant or Merida. In fact merida started as frame factory, only recently they start to rebrand themself.

For sub rm2k bike, i think Giant Yukon Disk is ok too.

The math is double the price for every level

For HT,
Lvl1 = around RM 500 (those tesco, jusco bike)
Lvl2 = around RM 1100
Lvl3 = around RM 2000
Lvl4 = around RM 4000
Lvl5 = around RM 8000

Anything in between is matter of component but share same frame.

hydroformed tubing are usually not cylindrical in shape, maybe squarish/triangle/diamond/oval or a mixture of that. its also usually not straight, either bended or tapered. and hydroformed frames tend to be butted too, so the wall thickness of the tubing varies, especially top/down tube. tap ur nails at various parts of the down tube, if the sound it makes differs, then its most likely butted.

hope this helps

Yay, it's not raining here in Bangsar!
Gonna go for my evening ride for 2 hours... which I have missed for about 3 months...

btw weather at kota damansara seems nice. nobody riding aftenoon?

Just came back from evening ride about an hour ago.
Now it's raining like cats 'n' dogs...

yo bruders, u think i should get disc brake or not? lbs rekomen m575. but pair with what rotor good?

my budget is ai qi, ai pi , ai dua liap nee.

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Added on November 3, 2009, 8:22 pmthis is for boner.
http://bicyclebuysell.com/view_sell.php?id=79349

This post has been edited by Syphon: Nov 3 2009, 08:22 PM

Lemme post direct picture for faster boner.

tq syphon for the poison. but it's too advance for me. lol

In most cases yeah but not necessarily and vice versa.

Simplest way is the tap tap with finger nail lor.... different sound on single tube... sound like very hollow inside.. like veli thin.

Acquired taste poison... Surly 1x1 ... in pink



This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Nov 3 2009, 11:57 PM

Hey guys, I might want to let go of my bike sometime in February since I will be posted in Africa for 4 years.............bike description is in my signature.....anyone interested?

nothing like riding in a tropical thunderstorm after a hard day's work! sweet!
but brakes were really a bit skittish given the serious amount of water. but i dont want to change my wheels and get disc brakes. trying to save up for a 2nd car man!
ad inside the local cycling mag say spez concept store opening soon in kota damansara.
like sniper, i wouldnt mind a roubaix either but i would probly get and xtc or stumpjumper HT if i was in the market for 26lb HT. but a giant anthem FTW full sus.
sniper, it seems the volcano near taipei they thought was extinct is actually alive!

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Added on November 4, 2009, 12:05 amcan it be chopped up for parts?

This post has been edited by dickybird: Nov 4 2009, 12:05 AM

3 options:
1) the frame and the fork together (seatpost, seat clamp, headset, stem, saddle and handlebar, grips)
2) Complete bike
3) All parts together (Groupset, brakeset and wheelset, rotors....)

Sorry no rojak2..........

20lbs HT should be a lot more fun than a roadie lor.
Note to myself: Must resist the darkside.

On that volcano thing... yeah man... if it freakin blows --> bye bye taipei. China can save their nukes.

Oh... tropical thunderstorm? Bah!!! try a tropical typhoon... mucho stim sial.

Craps man. Africa for 4 years.
Thought of getting a bike for Africa yet? You can be LYN Mountain Bike Heaven africa correspondent

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Nov 4 2009, 12:23 AM

I will be confined to my company residential compound...................the price you have to pay for shyte load of income and working for O&G company.....however, its not im retiring or anything.....buying a hybrid for me to cycle there and another light XC FS for that "once in a while" capetown escape'

Ah well.. shyte load of income is FTW any day but WTF.... still aim for 2 bikes?

Get one XC HT enough lar.... points up a few post to the Surly 1x1 in pink

Unless u secretly seek apprenticeship with Greg Minnaar

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Nov 4 2009, 12:28 AM

Africa? hmm u need just 1 Anthem..

but 3L hydro bag, full face helmet and real kevlar armor.

shot gun will help too.

not anthem.....im going the maverik route...........

you are single?

tomorrow might drop by putrajaya for nite casual biking.
will park around putrajaya masjid (near najib ofis) cycle till PICC. any1 been there at nite? izzit safe or there is restricted zone in between that?

This post has been edited by chamelion: Nov 4 2009, 07:56 AM

Yo guys...
This Friday... 8pm meet up at
Shah Alam Extreme Park. Who interested... do come.

polygon royale series 2010 line up sure is nice.

here's for the WW




and i fell in love with the DXP cromo




taken from sepedaku.

This post has been edited by rushmode: Nov 4 2009, 01:31 PM