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 Mountain Biking Heaven V12, Live to Ride, Ride to Live

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post Nov 30 2009, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Nov 30 2009, 07:35 PM)
i dunno shimano got sell break, brakes i know la.

m595 is 2010 deore right? looks like slx lever design. m575 is cheaper, looks different. try and ask scotty, i think he is using m575
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what mean by pre-bleed? rclxub.gif
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post Nov 30 2009, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 30 2009, 07:50 PM)
M595 look nicer and lighter if that's a consideration tongue.gif


Added on November 30, 2009, 7:52 pm

Shimano sell their hydro brakes 2 ways officially:

BR (brakes) and BL (levers) separately

or

As a set (pre-bleed) including the hose.... so if you don't mind ghetto a bit (too long brake hose)... just install without needed to do anything else
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owh i see. thanks sniper nod.gif . i like m575 bcoz it have white color drool.gif .


one of Giants boutique staff offer me secretly his alexrims rim..alex hub..rotor and merida tyre for RM300. scared the wheelset is too heavy. but u get what u pay for rite... sweat.gif
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post Dec 1 2009, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 30 2009, 10:39 PM)
Awww... so you like white brakes  tongue.gif
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waaaa. this one I like more! thumbup.gif solid white with metallic red rclxms.gif
how much is it? brows.gif
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post Dec 1 2009, 11:34 AM

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samy batu caves got stock for deore 2010 and m575 or not?


getting alex rim dp17... it get bad review in mtbr. but quite good review in bicycle forum. should I go with this brand?? rclxub.gif cry.gif
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post Dec 1 2009, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Dec 1 2009, 11:40 AM)
alexrim dp17 is entry level. of course its gonna get bad user reviews from mtbr.com, its among the cheapest there.


Added on December 1, 2009, 11:50 amcheapest m575, new, seems like a good deal.

http://bicyclebuysell.com/view_sell.php?id=82394

selling cos rear hose too short for tbolt laugh.gif
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black color. but rm100 different with brand new white... hmm.gif since im planing to upgrade my fork also.. i think I just go with this one and forget about white thingy..

bro.. do u think I should go with alexrim dp17?(rim+rotor+hub and tyre rm300)


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post Dec 1 2009, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Dec 1 2009, 01:03 PM)
Thinking of selling my Recon 351 la.
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let me know if u willing to throw away for 500 tongue.gif notworthy.gif
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post Dec 2 2009, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 2 2009, 12:04 AM)
I feel your pain brudder... carbon is just so captivating.. so mesmerizing.

It's like having Megan Fox getting relaxed and casual at home  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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sniper u really Fox die hard fan. u watch already megan fox latest movie? Jennifer Body drool.gif drool.gif .
*reminder dont watch with ur gurlfriend/wife bcoz they will hate this movie and then hate u. laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2009, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(ooikl @ Dec 3 2009, 06:51 AM)
bell is an essential item for me... tongue.gif
to ting the hiker or jogger infront of me....
to ting the farm motobike that coming from front or back....
to ting the slow rider infront tongue.gif
to ting the rider behind and see are they following closely.....
to ting continuously when i need to catch rider alert or help.....
and last to ting for fun.... biggrin.gif
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laugh.gif I also want ting ting hehe laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bonesboy @ Dec 3 2009, 11:28 AM)
bro.
pictures says athousand words. lol
pics r up of my project bling
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fuhyooo hope tuhhh...

mine small2 project only..novatec hub + hydraulic break blush.gif

tomorrow I will get my "present" rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 3 2009, 12:23 PM

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anyone know how much rotor for 7 bot? above rm200?

rotor with center lock for what? scared i buy wrong rotor blink.gif

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post Dec 3 2009, 01:13 PM

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sniper
got rotor with 7 bolt or not ? most of ppl said they never heard off... -(
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 3 2009, 01:21 PM)
thanks mr sniper notworthy.gif

where the hack im going to find 7 bolt rotor! cry.gif cry.gif .
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 3 2009, 01:43 PM)
Are you sure you don't mean a 7 inch rotor?

Should be the case in all likelihood... 7" = 180mm rotor.

Just need to check if your hub is 6 bolt (most likely) or centerlock.
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ya ya confirm already. the seller sms me already.. 7 screw( i i guess he mean 7 bolt) and he suggest me to use 6" rotor.

but most people said novatec build their hub follow IS.
hope the hub follow IS... will double check when item arrive tomorrow=) rclxms.gif

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post Dec 3 2009, 06:19 PM

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http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/view_sell.php?id=82794


should i or should not.... hmm.gif
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post Dec 3 2009, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Dec 3 2009, 06:53 PM)
ur frame is an xc frame, any more than 100mm and the head tube might crack. every frame is designed around a specific amount of travel, any more would change the geometry and stress concentration on the parts of the frame, usually the head tube.
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owh I see... but still the source of force still come from same place. tyre > fork > head tube . I dont think head tube will receive additional force bcoz of additional travel.

maybe rear triangle of frame will crack first hmm.gif ...

im not being stubborn just a healthy discussion laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2009, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Syphon @ Dec 3 2009, 07:36 PM)
Nvm , crack liao . Just change.
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change to softail sure not crack punya tongue.gif

QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Dec 3 2009, 07:42 PM)
u increase travel, head tube angle decreases. less vertical, more horizontal. so instead of the force going from tyre>fork>stem>handlebar, more of the force is absorbed by the headtube compared to a steep angled headtube.

another thing is torquing. longer fork, more torque acting on the headtube, more stress. because usually force from the tire is never in the same angle as the headtube, there will always be torque acting upon the head tube. Torque=forcexradius (fork length)

hit a bump with a 100mm fork compared to 140mm fork at the same speed, u get the same force. but the torque acting upon the head tube is much higher with the 140mm fork. get what i mean? smile.gif
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i feel u bro tongue.gif thumbup.gif
owh i see..well u looking from the point of view where the fork hitting the bump and causing stresses to head tube.
i'm looking loading/force come from rider weight to the frame(center of frame). i believe low center of frame(crank area) receive stress more frequent and much more higher. increasing the travel to 140 will cause rider to lean backward and more stresses at the center tube.

btw what u said is true. what im just said is my theory. dont know true or not biggrin.gif

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post Dec 3 2009, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Dec 3 2009, 08:13 PM)
stress at the bottom bracket (crank) is distributed among the front triangle(downtube) and the rear triangle(chainstay). torque acting on the head tube is like trying to pry the head tube away from the top and down tube.

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pardon the lazy autocad drawing. was doing an assignment using autocad, so just used that. laugh.gif


Added on December 3, 2009, 8:14 pmbtw assume the rectangle at the top is the head tube, and the longer rectangle as the fork length. too lazy to label. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Dec 3 2009, 08:15 PM)
shakehead.gif simply put, dont put a 140mm travel fork on a xc frame that is designed for a 100mm fork, you will break the frame period.
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rclxms.gif nice drawing.

ok I understand if the longer travel causing more torque.
but looking at the travel/shock absorber...as increase shock absorber will decrease stress on stress area(head tube). assuming I ride the same road. so basically increase travel will cause failure/crack due to torque not stresses? hmm.gif

if head tube fail due to torque, it will crack between the weld. if it crack due to stresses I assume it will crack at head tube. but which one most rider face off? hmm.gif
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post Dec 3 2009, 10:03 PM

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at least I know why I cant get AM fork for now.

b4 dis I only consider of energy loss when climbing using long travel.
now I know possibilities that can happen to my frame.

so conclusion is I get my answer, which is no to AM fork cry.gif ...but very cheap lio.. drool.gif
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post Dec 3 2009, 10:07 PM

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can't wait for tomorrow!!!! scared about rotor thingy... sad.gif
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post Dec 3 2009, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Dec 3 2009, 10:10 PM)
y? 7 bolt rotor ah? the guy go machine his own rotors from a steel disc and drilled 7 bolt holes to it? laugh.gif
that's the only way i know how to get a 7 bolt rotor hmm.gif

or a 6 bolt rotor, go drill another hole, but then the force distribution wont the balanced laugh.gif and it might look ugly.
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6bolt dont have space for another one. so stress about this rotor thing. if cant solve tomorrow I just buy new wheelset tongue.gif

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