not all employer are as bad as what you think.
the statement is just not so right.

if we are good at what we do and there's nothing wrong being committed to a company as long as the company still has job for us.

if the company is changing direction and we can see that it no longer fits us, feel free to go anyway.

Avaya? Asia Telecom? Lucent?

Greetings from couple of levels below you.

Hmm, is it swaying really bad up there?

It's even lower than that.

Means feeling the towers moving from left.. to right.. to front.. to back..?

Don't really see much Intec people around during lunch.. guess most of them are outstation?

Nice figure you got there for basic pay.

Travelling allowance (Approx 160 ringgits per day)
Car mileage ( 60 cents per km)

But oh well, it's good as long as there's compensation.
I heard some companies don't even bother about it.

Posting on behalf of a close friend.

Age : 20
Location : KL
Job Title : Junior Credit Control Analyst
Industry : Banking
Tenur : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : 0
Qualification: Degree
Salary : MYR 1900

Yeah, she skipped standard 5, and jumped from standard 6 to form1.
Took a 3 years degree.
Taadaaa.... A 20 years old graduate.

It depends on the job function.
In order to know that, I'm sure we have to work there first.

It's more to which industry you are joining.

i.e. for a pilot, fresh grad, 5 digit?

Feels like I've read it before from somewhere.
Anyway....

- Small companies can get plan approval much faster, that's for sure, because it's just a small project.
- Might be able to learn everything in a small company, but that is just what we think, because the everything that we have learnt is just a small portion of the actual thing out there. Probably what we learn is just enough to start another small company?

Come on, with the right trend of economy, both you and I can become a millionaire in a few years time.
Hope it's so easy.

I don't think we judge a company is big or not based on its age.
Is Google big? It was established after I was born.
I don't know how old you are anyway.

You can't prove something with just an example.
This could be just one in a million.
Title doesn't mean anything, money talks, the rest walk!

Cut the talk.
Post your salaries peeps!

It depends on the industry and what we are selling.
Some stuff is easier to sell but some is really difficult.
Of course we shall improve with experience, what doesn't improve with experience after all?


Learning from seniors doesn't mean reading from book.
Looking at how they secure deals, observe, learn, remember, apply, these are valuable experience which cannot be learnt otherwise.
Learn from their mistakes too, avoid repeating it.

Good luck? Luck favours the bold!

Excuse me peeps.
This thread is meant for posting salary and salary discussion only.
Don't stray too far from that.
Thanks.

You don't post vacancies here, please put it in JE.

Manager's income is depending on the industry too.