Job Title: R&D Engineer
Current Age: 24
Job Desciption: Designing new Digital Video Camcorders, in charge of the electronics imaging side
Company : JVC
Company Head Count: 2.7k here in Malaysia
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenur : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : None
Salary : RM2.4k++

That is quite a lot considering that you have been working for only a year. How many hours OT do you have to work to earn that much?

Or eriksson also or Alcatel...so many choices...

For your first post, this seems rather immature. Shows that you do lack the depth of what it means to be out there looking for a job after graduation.

If you want to boost up the salary market in malaysia, you have to start boosting up the earnings of the companies here.

Agreed that my posting was rather weak as I did not clearly mention the true intent of what I meant. My apologies on that, wrote that post in a hurry

Anyone knows that in order for the company to achieve greater earnings there are a lot of factors that control that, the employees, the country it is operating in, the economy and other external factors.

To answer on why MNC companies lay off their workers are usually based on the entire groups earnings and trying to reduce cost while streamlining their operations in order to operate efficiently while maximizing profits and reducing costs. It could even be a strategic decision such as selling off unprofitable subsidiaries or shutting down unneccesary departments.

Yes, there is nothing wrong with negotiating a salary but what can you negotiate when you are a fresh graduate looking for a job? If you actually do read the rest of the comments made here by other forumers who are hunting for jobs, getting a job more than RM2.5k is very good and not many people can do that.

Ask him to negotiate after receiving RM2.2k for his first job with nothing to hold on to but just a degree is not something advisable. Heck, you might even make him/her lose the opportunity to obtain the job.

If you look from a management view, why should I bother hiring someone who wants RM2.8k-RM3k if there are like 100 other applicants who are willing to accept the job at a lower salary. At the end of the day, we are in a very competitive environment where people are willing to work for less just to grab on to that first job. But once you have gained your experience, then negotiating is definitely acceptable and a good way to increase your own pay.

If you look from a management view, the entire hiring process would you be able to fit in another employee within your department's budget while balancing your other employee's pay structure and year end bonusses? You would then have to consider a training budget as well as allocation of staff planning time in order to train the new hire. Not planning ahead would then cause more of your staff to be overworked and thus causing the entire department's morale to drop.

So again back to the whole entire question about negotiating for a higher pay, lets try to think this through with both pictures in mind, you as the employee and the person/company who is hiring you.

This post has been edited by Mavik: Sep 20 2006, 04:14 PM

Test engineer's pay can range from RM1.8k to about RM2.8k depending on your degree and the company you are applying to. MNCs will definitely offer more of course.

Seems about right the salary for that kind of position. Fresh grads for engineers can earn around that same amount.

Thats just plain common sense....

It depends on the company they are working for and the position.

Sure thing.

If the fresh grad joins the sanitation company as a waste relocation engineer (garbage collector) < RM1000

If the fresh grad sells burger ramly by the roadside stall > RM1000
If business is good > RM3000
If burger taste like crap < RM100

Dude, a fresh grad from mass communication can land any type of job. Please state clearly what type of position and where, MNC or non-MNC.