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 Stock Market V41, OCTOBEAR vs OCTOBULL - Who's d winner?

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post Oct 2 2009, 08:55 AM

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checking in!

wow, hmm..

looks like this is gonna take awhile. i'm gonna switch my attention away from KLCI for the time being and focus on other markets brows.gif

gonna check back time to time, and good luck to everyone trading! make some monayyyyyyyy
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post Oct 2 2009, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 2 2009, 08:57 AM)
leng chai, which market are you going to?  brows.gif
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i'm having fun trading virtual forex and CFDs laugh.gif laugh.gif
stockwise, FTSE for now tongue.gif

KLCI all in deep freeze, relook in late oct/early november hehehe.
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post Oct 2 2009, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 2 2009, 09:01 AM)
trading virtual?
hahaha.......

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hehehe, takes some boredom off looking at data.
sigh, looks like today is a sad boring day also, time to go back to seleep! 2am here.

good luck to you debbie! laugh.gif and pre-congrats on the 2k posts haha.
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post Oct 2 2009, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 2 2009, 09:06 AM)
are you trying to say i have been actively spamming here  blush.gif
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no lah. not at all. tongue.gif


Added on October 2, 2009, 9:09 amwait. is it a system glitch?

GPACKET-WA is up 3800%, yesterday close at 0.005, today open at 0.195.

??????? rclxub.gif

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post Oct 2 2009, 09:10 AM

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ok nvm, have a nice day everyboday! HSI might go down to 20300.
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hmmm.. looks like today had a late afternoon rally.
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Oct 5 2009, 07:57 PM)
Only because of "monkey business" laugh.gif
How's your ring-side seat at the greatest fiscal collapse in world economic history?? brows.gif
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geee
there's quite a lot of politicking around here because the election's just around the corner, i think sometime in May '10.

but right now forex seems to be way more interesting than equity markets. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 5 2009, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Oct 5 2009, 08:22 PM)
Shorting the pound??
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definitely tongue.gif


Added on October 5, 2009, 8:34 pmseriously? when i logged in to HLe they showed +4.xx points.

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post Oct 5 2009, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 5 2009, 08:35 PM)
hmmm  was watching the TV2 8pm mandarin news and they reported +10points...
but my M2U shows 4points... wonder which one is final...

one thing for sure... feels like *someone* doesnt want KLCI to go down... -> buy more component stocks~~  brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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yeah, but my component stock YTL is rubbishy. maybe only certain component stocks are buy-able.

QUOTE(David_Brent @ Oct 5 2009, 08:38 PM)
Good news for KNM holders:
http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...ments/index.jsp

RM155 million new business.


Added on October 5, 2009, 8:39 pm
...and long the Oz...... brows.gif
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ahhhhahaha yes, long the commodity currencies, CAD if oil goes up, yen in long term. but that's OT blush.gif good news indddeeeeddd for KNM. now if only they do something to reduce their operational gearing ratio instead of getting new contracts. that'll really make me happy.
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Oct 5 2009, 09:14 PM)
ha ha ha...
some news on KLK

Trade Cancellation Request for Stock KLK (2445) - update 
Please be informed that the Exchange has reviewed the request for cancellation

of a KLK trade and has decided not to approve the request.
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wow, looks like someone's gonna get screwed over really badly. sweat.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 04:34 AM

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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Oct 6 2009, 02:09 AM)
hi guys smile.gif going to have my exams soon T.T will be over by mid november! then i can challenge posting with u all d biggrin.gif oil surge above $70 again...hmm...time for knm to shoot again?
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oil's probably gonna trade rangebound until end of the year i suppose.
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post Oct 6 2009, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 6 2009, 06:50 PM)
S&P 500 futures rose 8.1 points to 1044.50 and Nasdaq 100 futures added 11.25 points to 1685.25. Futures on the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 63 point

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Today hope to see C @ 5.00. The RALLY had begun. Just 3 session red, yesterday all recovered.
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probably just a minor rally because of the surprise rate hike from Reserve Bank of Australia. i'm looking at a possible 10% correction since the S&P is somewhere 5% below its Sept high at the moment. probably nothing more than that. laugh.gif
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nampaknya tomorrow can experience feel good effect from overseas. +10 points?
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QUOTE(dawneagle @ Oct 6 2009, 10:50 PM)
what i dont understand is !!
they are expecting 10% UNemployment rate.
and all this 10% which equals millions of US citizen are getting money from government right.
WhyTF is the DOW sky rocketting still ?
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when the unemployment figures came out friday. markets across the world fell. it rose today because of RBA's rate hike. judging from previous experiences, it'll soon fall on some other bleak macroeconomic data.

sell into strength! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 12:02 AM)
so now is the good time to buy in US Dollars?
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no. not at all. not until there is speculation that the Fed / Treasury will support the currency. in the mean time just short all you want and watch the unwinding of the carry trade! laugh.gif laugh.gif

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btw, just for the record. i totally agree 1000% with what cherroy has said above. that's the mod for you!! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Oct 7 2009, 12:10 AM)
Even if there is speculation that Fed will support the currency, it will only be able to maintain at that rate for a short while... i'm afraid that the economy will have trouble again in the near future


Added on October 7, 2009, 12:11 amlets all sell when it hits 20% profit smile.gif
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yeah, that sounds about right. haha.

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 12:11 AM)
What is Fed/Treasury?
Who are they?
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US Federal Reserve, and US Treasury Dept.

just to illustrate how badly things went south for USD in a matter of hours after the RBA announcement.

I had an open long position on EUR/USD about 6 hours before the announcement was made. running profit: -6k.

8 hours after RBA made a hike. my position ran a profit of +22k.

disclosure: they're entirely virtual of course. tongue.gif


Added on October 7, 2009, 12:21 amcrap, i went OT. blush.gif
of course naturally a fall in currency would traditionally mean that equity markets would rise.

but then again, this 2 months i've seen some nerve-wracking situations when all commodities, crude, equity and USD were moving in tandem. really freaky stuff. sad.gif

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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Oct 7 2009, 12:26 AM)
doesnt sound OT to me tongue.gif still something to do with earning or losing money haha... teehk_tee, if im not wrong, you're holding knm as well right?
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yeahhh i haven't been able to exit it at all. so now i've kept all of it in the freezer to open up for Christmas. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 7 2009, 12:31 AM)
I think longer than Xmas. Maybe next Chinese NY.
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i was gonna put next CNY first, but decided opening it for Christmas would be a nice thing also laugh.gif

QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Oct 7 2009, 12:32 AM)
dont worry, lets give this baby of ours time to mature smile.gif when its all grown up, it will give not only give us mere 20% profit tongue.gif 300% at least! lalala hahaha.... hey tee, on the FED issue, i guess the US will have to rise their interest rates right? macroeconomics policies lol...high interest rates in a country makes the assets more valuable to investors smile.gif thus inflow of capital into the country and rises the exchange rate of the USD...i guess bernanke will have no choice but to raise the exchange rate as soon as possible
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hehe, i'm confident KNM will reach a steady level of 85sen in no time. it's still a good company after all.

depends entirely on the state of the economy. right now it'd be more beneficial to the states to have a lower exchange rate, exports are cheaper, imports are more expensive (so Ford gets an advantage over Toyota), their bond value depreciates, and lots more. immediate downside risk would be ballooning inflation rates which right now.. aren't taking effect yet. so until that happens, then rates gotta go up. but take note of this.

when the RBA was rumoured to raise rates last week. AUD/USD (Oz against the greenback) plummeted. when the RBA Governor said no rate hikes, the AUD recovered. when it gave everyone a big surprise today, the USD plummeted. a little odd right?

raising rates for the US now, won't bring cheer to the equity markets for sure. the moment the feds bring it up to 0.5% or 0.75%, be prepared to see the S&P take a 100 point dive.

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 12:35 AM)
Gosh!
I got so much to learn about stocks market.
How to fully understand the stocks market's and economics policy?

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economics my dear tongue.gif otherwise just reading the business section itself can do you wonders.
edit: wow art bckground, u got my respect! notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 12:57 AM)
I have zero background in economics. I took CCP course but I failed....

sigh...
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wah don't be too hard on yourself! you can do it!
tbh, LYN did a lot for me also. but i'm exploring other fields of finance/economics to understand more about the state of the economy after realising (after 2 months doh.gif) that the stock market itself isn't giving a clear picture.

forex made the picture much much clearer. hopefully derivatives can make it EVEN clearer brows.gif brows.gif

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