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 Stock Market V41, OCTOBEAR vs OCTOBULL - Who's d winner?

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post Oct 14 2009, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(mwchong @ Oct 14 2009, 10:58 AM)
Haha, sometimes didn't do anything may be better than did something but end up lossing in stock market.  blush.gif  blink.gif
Dun feel bad la.  doh.gif

You are welcome to visit my investment and trading blog : futurescorner.blogspot.com for ideas
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Please do a favour by using singature (for your blog) instead of every post tell people to visit your blog, which is irritating for others.

Thanks for the cooperation.
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post Oct 14 2009, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Oct 14 2009, 10:59 AM)
but with recession kicks in and they still can maintain the earning that means the economy is stabilizing already...
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Now we have a new scenario, we can spot that revenue are dropping across generally for almost all company, but profit wise is still maintained at better shape through cost cutting measure which result better profit margin for company, eventually drive more bullishness on stock market.

But cost cutting means less expenditure spend by company, (so less business for others), or employ less people, so it mean lower revenue for other company, low revenue on other company means lower expendutire by other company, so the other company cost cut again, employ less people. That's why employment still could pose a threat on economy, and double dip theory come from.

So until this cycle break out, recovery of economy is not yet solid,

But with better profit, it means good for stock market.
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post Oct 14 2009, 04:46 PM

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Wow, the whole front page blinking non-stop, unstoppable.

Oct myth? what is that? whistling.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 14 2009, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 14 2009, 04:49 PM)
expect the unexpected  icon_idea.gif
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The more we "expected the unexpected", the more the "expected the unexpected" will not be expected. <--- don't know what I am talking either. laugh.gif

Gila liao, market talk about AUD will be on par with USD i.e. 1:1.

Now AUD approaching 3.10 vs RM.

USD really masuk longkang and gold price make new high in USD today.
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post Oct 14 2009, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Oct 14 2009, 05:08 PM)
See, our EPF keep disposing PBB... and EPF still got 13.8% to go... sad.gif

5:04PM  PBBANK  Employees Provident Fund Board (7,466,900 Shares Disposed)
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No lar, EPF wont' dump it all want.

if you track EPF trading record, they always like that one, market goes up time, take chance to dispose, market drop time, come to market to support.

Only when market bullish time, they got chance to dispose as they don't want their disposing causing the share price drop one.


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post Oct 14 2009, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 14 2009, 05:12 PM)
Crazy? USD masuk longkang, err should be masuk sungai now.

DJIA super green FUTURE : 9,885.00 +76.00

10,000 is cumming. Get ready.  rclxm9.gif
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10,000?

Haha, just watch the financial new/media, those analysts or fund managers being interviewed one, talk about hitting 11,000 by year end. whistling.gif

10,000 no longer the target already. How fast thing change..

QUOTE(chyaw @ Oct 14 2009, 05:16 PM)
but we don't know whether our money still have the same value or not... sad.gif
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That's true, it is the biggest worry. unsure.gif

With oil price continue to go up, we might repeating the same path of early 2008, petrol Rm2.70/litre. icon_question.gif

Whatever earn and profit is not enough to pay those price hike. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 14 2009, 06:36 PM)
and i think EPF really dried up supporting KLSE early this year, so now must take profit...
hmm since they make so much, why are they giving so little interest to our epf ?  shakehead.gif
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They need to free up some cash (or take profit) for raining days, if not where to find money to support the market when market dipping. Cannot always buy buy buy non-stop.

QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 14 2009, 08:52 PM)
yah... analysts always follow wind.....
wind blows north, they say bull... wind blows south, they say bear..  laugh.gif

those who are against the wind will risk losing credibility if they are on the wrong side... hehe
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Most importantly is their job might in jeopardy if against the wind.

You follow the wind, 8/10 can get it right, as with current sentiment and trend/momemtum 8/10 of time, if nothing happen, market at least go up a little.

It is not rewarding to be a contrarian which against the wind, only only has 2/10 chance get it right. Market doesn't turn or reverse the trend everyday, in fact we can look at the long term chart, market only turn a few time (a trend reversal) in a year. Always either with trend line up for months or down for months.

Analysts, fund managers are also employee only, why try to act smart and against the wind as contrarian of the market? Doesn't make sense. After all, even follow the wind, get it wrong, they don't lose a single cent of their money. As even get it wrong, can still put up some word, my fund is following the market performance, look index falll 10%, my fund only fall 8%, I am doing a good job. cool2.gif

But if you against the market, market up 10%, you lose 10%, you are fired on next month. tongue.gif
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post Oct 15 2009, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Oct 14 2009, 11:50 PM)
i just watched cnbc news on astro, they are warning traders to cool down as right now, it is still a small bubble. With unemployment at a high and the dollar depreciating, it will once again haunt the stock market again. Dollar depreciating = leads to higher prices in imports of goods and services, how will it affect the consumer spending? etc. etc. etc. so many tongue.gif


Added on October 14, 2009, 11:53 pmquestion plz..can someone recommend me some good steel companies tongue.gif Annjoo is kinda of expensive right now, do u guys think Lsteel,Masteel,Ssteel are worth buying?
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USD depreciating, mean stock is cheaper than before in the eye of foreign investors, especially from Japan, Europe and Australia.

Also with USD depreciating, those multinational company like McDonalds, Microsoft etc earn more profit from overseas, as when it translate into USD time, more $$ for them while stock price always react to profit figure one.

QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Oct 15 2009, 12:02 AM)
you should buy gold. you will expect a lot of earnings.
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Aussie people still lose money in gold even gold price surge from 900 to 1060.

There is currency risk involved because gold is traded/qouted in USD. If it is qouted in Yen, Aud or Euro, you might not see gold price surge at all.

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 15 2009, 12:11 AM)
But then, US market stocks are priced in USD so means US people/companies buy/sell shares in USD.
Since they are jobless, companies close down, where do they get so much money to buy given the USD value is so cheap now?
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You do not know your currency is cheap or low if you don't go outside to see.

Just like RM is appreciating against USD (be it rising or dropping), do you know? You don't know until you are doing export/import or need to have forex transaction involved.

As with USD is depreciating a lot, it mean higher profit for Microsoft (as they report porift based in USD), so with higher profit, higher share price. Share price always follow the profit figure which is the basic of stock investment.

Those buying share one are not from blue collar workforce that are jobless at current moment, but from mostly from rich one, hedge funds, mutual funds etc.
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post Oct 15 2009, 10:09 AM

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This kind of market condition, we could see some sudden reversal of profit taking one. Back to previously old day situation.
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post Oct 15 2009, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Oct 15 2009, 10:12 AM)
what do you mean by "reversal" of profit taking?
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Mean the stock could be up 10 cents or 15 cents now, due to sudden flock in of sell order or profit taking, you could see those 10 cents gain varnish in matter of a few ten of minutes. Suddenly buyer chicken out one, until stablising.

Or another word, volatility is back, and lot of action up and down.

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Oct 15 2009, 10:43 AM)
Just worry it will soars high, then you will be  doh.gif  mega_shok.gif
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That's why I don't know how to sell and try to find those don't need to sell but still can make money one. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Oct 15 2009, 10:45 AM)
the most scaring part for me is .. when i wanna buy / sell .. M2U HANG
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Haha, if bought a stock for contra, the stock up "bang bang seng" (Cantonese), then system time hang, cannot sell, then after system restore back, market plunge already, profit run away biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 15 2009, 10:50 AM)
you dividend taikor mah laugh.gif
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I am dividend maniac laugh.gif


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post Oct 15 2009, 11:02 AM

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3A just needs less than 2 month time to surge from 0.40 to 1.60. blink.gif

300% profit within 2 months. shocking.gif

The chart show straight vertical line up.

This is the "king" of stock right now.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 15 2009, 03:40 PM)
wooo getting reddish. cili api manyak sedap laugh.gif
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This is the sudden reversal that talked about this morning.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 15 2009, 05:31 PM)
3A kena UMA

apa la, what a joke, now baru mau query.

/someone pls get bursa the copy-pasta version of reply!
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I just going to post it why don't have UMA on 3A

Up so drastically generally KLSE will UMA one.

From 0.40 -> 1.60

Another copy and paste job. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Oct 16 2009, 11:08 AM)
3A 1.68 now!

The invincible hand behind really strong la laugh.gif

Anyone got any idea who's the one?

Last Q result annualised eps is 7 sen,so PER (current) is  23 time rclxub.gif
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Going to repeat Iris history or Repco one. brows.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Oct 16 2009, 11:18 AM)
Transmil. + Kuok = sweat.gif  sweat.gif

3A  +  Kuok  +Ong LH  =  cry.gif  cry.gif
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I mean how the share price is gorenged, not the company issue. blush.gif

What is 3A doing actually?

I only know AAA branded canned food. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Oct 16 2009, 05:10 PM)
I'm thinking to dump my LIONIND and MRCB and MKLAND "if the conditions are right" and look for some new targets - maybe LEADER....
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