The setting were not very good...
U need to be at the front 2-4 rows to get better feeling even though it's 4 subs setup.
Running hot does not mean the sub to be running for 1-2 hours b4 playing, it means the gain setup very high as as htkaki points out, the calibration done were 75db and are not playing at reference vol.
To get proper demo with correct setup, would be better can pay htkaki a visit at his Seremban home.
And I do agreed that the speakers are too bright to my liking...maybe after full run in, it would perform better (Those demo speakers are mere run for around 4 hours only )

This reminded me of the KLIAV show.
Many people complained about the sound of some of the most expensive systems at the show.
But in actual, they are being finetuned and set by the system designer and sound engineer of the manufacturers themselves.

And also the seating position is kind of contributing to the kind of sound you hear.
Anyway, what's your perception on huge bass?
Please share among us...

This post has been edited by car_o_scope: Oct 5 2009, 04:10 PM

Hmm, on another thought, does speakers normally feel not so bright after they are have run in?

I thought certain speakers have certain characteristics and SVS is more on the 'bright' side as compared to PSB (i'm having this)... Reason being, both the center and the floorstanders sounded sharper and brighter than my PSBs....

Not to say bright is no good, in fact certain people have different preference.. But my point is, will a speaker become less bright after run in?

Cheers

If the amplifier is underpower, there is a possibility that the speakers will sound bright.

Shouldnt be the case.. I remembered seeing a Denon 4310 (raw power) paired tgt with a Rotel power amp there...

Nevertheless, i still think SVS makes damn great subs though.. Just commenting on the floorstander and centers only..

Thank you, Ronald. You think i should place the sub directly in front of me? They ia a rule of thump that state the sub should not be place at the mid way and since during the event it was place at the specific right placement for the subwoofer , i begin to wonder where the fault lies. Even my wife is not a movies freak also complaint 2 words, no bass and sound very bright. How big is Maxx Loh room? I hope i don't offend other forumers as we as consumers need to know what actully was happening during the event. Friends were telling me, this SVS is very good must buy but Sg dealers mentioned the other way round instead.

Which is why I said it is a possibility...

Anyhow, let's not forget that the MTS-01 is a pair of very power demanding and power sapping speakers.
I do feel that the speakers can do really good with a power amp that has more power and more importantly...... control.
Anyway, the Rotel is a 2-channel power amp.
If only the 4310 alone, the sound ain't going to be good.

Huge bass?
In my opinion huge bass should be tight,punchy,solid and bass wave is wide.
But all this characteristic of a good subwoofer doesn;t show up during the Transformers movies and Die Hard 4.
I only can hear all those sharp and bright noise and no bass!!!
Not to mention that at certain explotion scene,instead of bass,I can only hear the sound of slight wind instead of the oomph sound that you normally enjoy even in the cinema
Correct me if i am wrong.
Is it SVS characteristic when you need more sub to bring up to that kind of level?
If it really happens,I think it would be very costly by buying so many sub at a time to feel the punchy and oomph feeling.

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Added on October 5, 2009, 4:35 pmWah MPYW u need 4 sub to reach that kind of level EVEN YOU ARE SITTING INFRONT??
I thought they were using 2 SUB only.
If like this,based on my room size,then i think i should need 8 sub to get this kind of soundstage?
That would be very costly.
Thanks.

This post has been edited by HT Freak: Oct 5 2009, 04:39 PM

Hahahahaha.... No need 8 subs lar....
Well, I think 1 sub will be enough.
Why not consider to have another audition at htkaki's place?

HT Taukeh. You are right. It's undeniable that the set up and the sound were bad. Strongly believe my wife would have same comment if she was there. I would leave the comments part on the set up to htkaki.
SVS is selling well in SG as there were back orders and no ready stock was available when I was in SG. If not I would have grabbed one unit. I am not too sure about this now.

Large room would need much better cabling as well. This would play a role as well.

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Added on October 5, 2009, 4:44 pmShould you need 8 subs to cover your room, I believe SVS would have closed shop now.

This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Oct 5 2009, 04:44 PM

Yes. Agree with you. Cables do bring some effects.

[quote=car_o_scope,Oct 5 2009, 04:40 PM]Hahahahaha.... No need 8 subs lar....
Well, I think 1 sub will be enough.
Why not consider to have another audition at htkaki's place?

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Taukeh car scope,
MPYW already stated ONLY BY USING 4 SUB HE ONLY CAN FEEL THE VIBRATION AND NOT TO FORGET THE BASS CAN BE FELT ONLY BY SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW!
and yet you mentioned that 1 sub is already enough?
how could it be for a big room need one sub only just like during the event?
As you know during the show first round demo,they are using 2 sub only and you mentioned that one sub is enough for my room size?
Kind of funny.

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Added on October 5, 2009, 5:04 pm

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Added on October 5, 2009, 4:44 pm
Should you need 8 subs to cover your room, I believe SVS would have closed shop now.

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Thanks for helping also.
but brother MPYW were listening to 4 subs setup during the 2nd demo and don;t forget he already stated the sub feeling only can be felt at the front row.
And im not wrong,on the 2nd row the distance from the sub should be in the distance of 10 till 12 feet only.
My position from my sitting place to the front sub is around 25 feet in distance so i think the minimum requirement should be 6 sub.
Correct me if i am wrong but don't forget MPYW he is listening to 4 sub demo setup.

This post has been edited by HT Freak: Oct 5 2009, 05:04 PM

As far as I know they were running four subs through out the first and second demo. Bass was indeed lacking.
Taukeh HT, you are one of the disappointed and disgruntled 'potential' buyers with high expectation on SVS subs.
I would believe some other people would share the same thought with you as well.
For the sake of our interest and the benefits of 'potential' buyers, can we have a shoot out on JBL and SVS?

This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Oct 5 2009, 05:13 PM

Thanks alot again Ronald joe.
Why a shoot out?
Because i am using a old JBL Es series sub and its nothing great about this sub.
The purpose I went to the show because I wanted to change to a good sub after i read alot of good review about SVS sub at oversea website and forums.
But everything already changed my mind now.
And btw I thought you were saying that during the 1st demo they were using 2 subs only?
And then you have the opportunity to go for the 2nd demo which is running 4 sub setup?
Which is correct?
1st demo 2 sub or 4 sub?
So that means to say just like brother MPYW mentioned that we need to sit at the front row only we can feel the bass?

I would say the subs had been 'intentionally' tuned down for the benefits of soft launching MTS speakers. (which is not my liking).
Recommended set up by svs is one PB13Ultra with MTS speakers series.
http://www.svsound.com/products-sys-mts01.cfm
We have gotten 4 subs that day.

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Added on October 5, 2009, 5:21 pmMy understanding: it's four subs.
Believe you are very much disappointed. Taking one step back, I'm just hoping that you would give it a second audition then.

P/s: I would have to stop for now. If not, it's going to end nowhere. Thanks

This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Oct 5 2009, 05:26 PM

i thought it was also 7.4 during 1st demo according to htkaki.

could it be that the AS-EQ1 is doing its job to flatten the bass response curve resulting in perceived 'less' bass whilst our home systems suffer from boominess due to room issues?

Could be the work of the EQ1.
And confirmed it was 7.4 setup for both demo...Ron told me that (I sat behind him during 1st demo)

If that's the case I don't need an AS-EQ1 then. It's personal taste though.
The helicopter part in transformer should have some sub sonic feel.

Ok thanks brother ronald joe.
There is no end to this puzzle.
Thanks alot for sharing some useful information.
Im going to U.S for some business purpose next fall.
If got time and chances,
Maybe i would drop by at SVS place through their given address to listen and test it.
Thanks alot then.

If you are going to SVS, can help me grab an AS-EQ1? joke...