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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V20, The times moves on..Can AMD Survive?...

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post Sep 27 2009, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 27 2009, 05:25 PM)
Or could be Samsung.... brows.gif

Its a pity we AMD'ers cant go high to run more than 1700mhz....rugi jer all the speed a performance ram can deliver... cry.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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yup, what we can do is to tighten d timing, but as u mentioned b4, it's pointless to go too high in MHz, tight timin would be more beneficial... big toe a.k.a tony @ bleeding age knows d best... thumbup.gif
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post Sep 27 2009, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 27 2009, 05:42 PM)
Precisely, but I also can't yet understand why we cant go more that 1800mhz??? It looks like the whole architecture isn't supportive enough, be it the mobo and the CPU... sad.gif
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i think we need more than am3 to take full advantage of bandwidth provided by ddr3, a breakthrough from AMD is much needed... icon_question.gif

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post Sep 28 2009, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 28 2009, 12:31 PM)
Bro ah_khoo already got a performance ram meh???  :/shock:
Geil pulak tuh.. Is it Geil EVO??? Huhuhu.. I want i want..
I sooooooo want a wife right now  :/cry:  :/cry: :/lol:
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it's geil ultra bro... nod.gif

d candidate is there ledi what? what's lack now is d proposal part... brows.gif

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 28 2009, 12:39 PM)
Beli la bro cloudwan. laugh.gif

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bli lah rig amd bro... tongue.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 28 2009, 12:47 PM)
Beli what? The Geil EVo or a wife?  :/hmm:  :/lol:  :/lol:  :/P
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bli jgn x bli bro, geil ultra mmg dijamin keenakan nya... if amd rig can't fully utilize kite same2 switch to i5... ddr2200 is not a dream nemore... drool.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 28 2009, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 28 2009, 12:55 PM)
Tak da duit bro. sad.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 28 2009, 01:06 PM)
Big possibility no sell d. doh.gif
Rugi a lot.

Btw bro, Athlon II 6xx not manage to unlock cache right?

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yup, if a big loss goin to take place, i'll rather keep those items. nod.gif

depend on die used, if propus die, no free lunch, but if deneb die, very high chances to get unlocked cache. i managed to unlock cache on x4 810 from 4MB to 6 MB w/o sweat, best thing was, it doesn't affect d stability at all, mileage wise, maybe a 'lil, but definitely worth for 24/7 config... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 28 2009, 01:13 PM)
But I read somewhere else that those cores is not under Deneb die.
Wonder how true is the statement. That is why ask here. smile.gif

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if propus die sure not cache available to be unlock, but if dened, as mentioned, very high chances imo. nod.gif

eyin d cheapest quaddy now ah bro? hmm.gif

it's a nice chip but considerin d locked multi, it's not doin oc mileage any gud... especially for advance tweaker like u bro... wink.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 28 2009, 01:18 PM)
Any idea where to get the LN2/DI pot here???

Tangan itchy edi to pump in higher than 1.65v!!! laugh.gif
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it's gonna be very chill here soon... brows.gif

ask abg gamers_maniac , manetau member ade lubang (dun misintepret tongue.gif ) ke... nod.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 28 2009, 02:28 PM)
I'm eying the propus too for maybe a HTPC system but still i would rather wait for their C3 stepping 1st coz the current cpu stock volt at 1.4v is a bit tooo much for me sweat.gif
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can always down volt mah... some more propus die doin quite ok what, 3.9GHz cam beser je... fwah... get one 1st, after finish playin + when c3 available then hoot again... laugh.gif

QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Sep 28 2009, 02:12 PM)
lama tak mari kacau already smile.gif still got any old 3800+ am2 users ah?
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most have changed i believe, rig is temporary but skill is permanent. nod.gif
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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Sep 28 2009, 05:11 PM)
is this ram will bottleneck my rig ?
2 * 2GB Kingston Value Ram DDR3 1333 CL9
i m using amd 550be and ati 4870 msi 770-c45  mobo
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depend on how well ya chip can go + how well is htt oc on ya board as well. smile.gif

ddr1600 divider gonna limit ya ram oc (on value board like 790gx a3+, not so sure bout premium boards). i can do 1700 @ cl7 w/ ddr1333 divider but w/ ddr1600 divider, i can't even do 1600 @ cl7, cl8 is d tightest i can go. some more, usin ddr1600, i can't even hit ddr1700 even d htt is way lower compared to 1700 @ cl7 usin ddr1333 divider. chip does play some roles there, especially d imc which determines how well u can clock ya nb freq & ram. nod.gif

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a very gud guide on deneb oc usin 955be + msi 790fx-gd70 & gigabyte 790fxt-ud5p by chew* @ xs thumbup.gif

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpo...5&postcount=240

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpo...8&postcount=335

my favorite line tongue.gif

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I start with ram because if the IMC is not happy and ram is not happy your OC will suffer and you will not be happy...


wish i have one of those boards... sad.gif

njoy readin guys... nod.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 29 2009, 10:18 AM)
Don't just wish bro, go go go make another loan from ur CFO :/P :/lol:
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no more loan lah bro, just get a pair of free premium ram still dare to loan ah... sweat.gif

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 29 2009, 10:19 AM)
LOL...jahat bro cloudwan.
I hope I have CFO too. Have to make a lot of loans. :/x :/x

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ermm... loan is a loan, gotta pay one leh bro... if loan then no need to pay diff story lah... tongue.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 29 2009, 10:21 AM)
Miahahaha, i wish i have one too.. Or should we just make a loan application from ah_khoo's CFO? :/lol: :/P
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saddup yuh!!! mad.gif tongue.gif

how's d nb cooler, not yet fit ah bro? biggrin.gif

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post Sep 29 2009, 12:21 PM

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dah dah... those are advance cny ang pows for u both... tongue.gif

some more they are cheap, like shoppin @ jalan pasar only so no big deal bros... wink.gif

my heart is tellin to go for a 790fx board but my head say better keep d $$$ for 890fx board. any advice guys... icon_question.gif

big sacrifice needed for d 790fx board, it's like tradin a 790gx a3+ & 0922APMW for d board, not so worth it... but i firmly believe d geil ram + my current chip can go a 'lil bit further... argghhh... rclxub.gif
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thx for d input guys, if i can't find a super cheap 790fx board then i'll just keep my current setup. nod.gif

i miss dfi ledi... sad.gif

d dark force is strong w/ d intro of i5... icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 29 2009, 12:43 PM)
Yup the dark force is very strong with the i5..  sweat.gif
But we must use the force to resist the temptation my padawan laugh.gif
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dun worry bro, coz i won't be mad enuf to sell of 2 of my x2 550be + biostar 790gx a3+ + 4gb kvr dd3 1333 just for an i5 750 + entry level of p55 board. sweat.gif rolleyes.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 29 2009, 03:20 PM)
Eh? U got 2 550be meh??? Both unlockable's??  drool.gif hmm.gif
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ermmm... yup, now u know why u got d alu nb cooler... tongue.gif

takin my own sweet time playin w/ d new chip, a tad better than d old chip @ lower clock, but high clock like 4GB 3d benchable still no luck... i need to break d 20k barrier in 06 w/ my old & outdated 3850s... mad.gif
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QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 30 2009, 01:42 AM)
got...just wait for it.... :/lol:
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when u gonna let go d gd70 sir... drool.gif

QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Sep 30 2009, 02:27 AM)
haha...this thread has become discussion btw u4/u5 ppl only~~
i always drop by and expect higher clocks from ah_khoo mostly...
@ah_khoo
what's your load temp for B50 @4.0?
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pardon me, who are those ppl? me slow to catch up one... sweat.gif

u expect from wrong person, me casual clocker only, not a die hard one so no insane clock like > 4.0GHz. nod.gif

load temp? hardly check coz usually i run that kinda clock only for 3dmark 06, can't really monitor d temp as 06 run in full screen mode. i believe it's 5x'c in air cond room thou... hmm.gif

QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 30 2009, 06:22 AM)
No lar...where can go 4.2ghz stable....

Actually it is 4.3ghz...but when I validate it suddenly it drop 199.9HTT so becomes 4.29Ghz.... :/lol:
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great job there sir!!! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(antonio @ Sep 30 2009, 07:00 AM)
I run at stock vcore n cpu-nb voltage at 3600mhz X4 and 2.2Ghz respectively....

Rams running at 1600@7-7-7-20 1.68v  :/hehe:
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awesome ram, too bad it's not so convenient for me to grab them, else i can buy 2 pairs of that instead of one pair of geil... sad.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 30 2009, 11:03 AM)
Fuyoooo nowadays micron chips are makin some kind of comeback on DDR3 meh?? hmm.gif
Making me  drool.gif  for a Ballistix Tracer even more laugh.gif tongue.gif
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dah lame come back dah bro, kite org je katak bawah tempurung... tongue.gif

wan tracer meh... go for non bling2 better mah, less heat hence higher mileage. if want bling2 get ocz xtc cooler v2... very gud air flow but i'm usin it for my pwm area instead of ram... ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 30 2009, 11:21 AM)
Ya ka more heat meh?? I just love those blings2 they bring into my dark n dull case tongue.gif
Kekekeke.. Whatever it is have to wait for next year, this year bajet all finished liao.. Kekekeke..
My pwm area already got covered with a cpu fan i dissected from my old sempron cpu soo no heat problem there i think :/P
d thing i hate bout corsair dom/ocz xtc ram cooler is they tend to block d inhale fan of cpu cooler (in east west orientation). if die die put there, not only cpu temp increase, nb tenp oso increase by 5'c (idle & on load). that's why i found a better way to use it instead of coolin d ram but heatin up d chip + nb. tongue.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 30 2009, 12:05 PM)
Waaaa why so late TS??? U order from where meh??
I'm thinkin of getting one for myself early next year too just to play2, hopefully C3 stepping already release by then :/P
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we're gonna talk bout 890fx ledi during q1 2010 bro... brows.gif

QUOTE(babyyi @ Sep 30 2009, 12:37 PM)
how much tat xtc 2? :/drool:  :/drool:
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slightly cheaper than xtc v1 sellin @ $39, minus few bucks... wink.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Sep 30 2009, 12:59 PM)
That is for perbualan di kemudian hari  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

Wow the XTC is around RM100 meh? Nyum nyum drool.gif
ah_khoo u got any pics of how u arrange ur internal components??
Kinda curious how u arrange everything inside ur temjin case  hmm.gif
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hehehe... 790fx pon x mampu, apetah lagi 890fx. purely for talks only, action need to wait long long... tongue.gif

yup, xtc v1 was a crap coz d top of d fan was covered, unlike d v2 which is abih bukak... rclxms.gif

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i'll post d peekture (d cables are a mess just to let u know in advance) tonite if i have d time, gonna move room again tomorrow... sweat.gif

d tj09 was a mess, never am i gud in cable management, thou i'm usin modular psu. d key to tidy cable is to have special holes for hidin & directin those cables, which can't be found in tj-09 unless i go & mod it. no such budget at d moment... blush.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 30 2009, 01:57 PM)
cloudwan..how about buying 2kit of 3x2gb kit of tracer..
then u take 4sticks i take 2...

so far i not seeing any one bulking dual channel kit for AMD..just i7 and for intel one..
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actually can buy per stick basis for tracer 2gb. runnin 4 sticks gonna tax d imc which directly affect d mileage of chip + ram. smile.gif

but since abg otroman like bling2, can ask him to buy 4 diff colors, blue, green, red & black tracer.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 30 2009, 02:18 PM)
owh ya?
nver knew that...red one also available in single stick?
ah_khoo..can u pls tell me which place at SG can get tracer..
i can ask my abang sedare to buy it for me...

can tell me one of the best shop there? wan to dlod the pricelist...  laugh.gif
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no tracer/ballistix in sg else i'd have bought 'em ledi. sad.gif

tracers in technicolors @ Crucial tongue.gif

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