hmm tonight taking btw one of my hector molted this morning ,,,, 5th instar

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Added on April 6, 2010, 10:17 pmL.m close up pics ........





5th instar hector .. molted today





This post has been edited by s98432512: Apr 6 2010, 10:17 PM

lol.... i am getting better
i did my home work

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Added on April 6, 2010, 10:52 pmbtw guys ... she is a pure v... i wonder for 1st time mating got blood anot ...

This post has been edited by s98432512: Apr 6 2010, 10:52 PM

hmm did i sex the spinifer wronglly ??? lol ..... hmm ... need to sex more

i rem now lol..... that was like ..say how long ago ...i can't rem .... cos that was stilla sub and i wans't sure which gender it was lol...
but i was supprised back then that one of it pop during the postage
did the babies make it ???

hmmm ... i totally forget the R club ...........
hahahahha

hi


try finding sam i think he is having some lol ...

lol... sam = akagidemon

hi guys ... some post mode pics of my hector ......
to kisk start this thread .... seldom see pple post pics onle le ... guys keep ur pics coming ...
still trying out the canon .... sweat man

5th instar .. < a week since molted







a.bicolor ... molt she faster molt



pp 4th instar ...



This post has been edited by s98432512: Apr 9 2010, 06:43 PM

lol.. i am sorry if i make "anyone" unhappy with my short form names for scorpions's actual long sci name . but i could not help myself laughing while i was reading this..
Someone PMed me with these words in it . " Your shoes size and others are different , how to fit in ..??? LOL " WOW !! how that to make my day ... something new .. when i juz back from lunch

Well jokes aside now

hmm ... ok let see ... time for rafiqos's reply ... .... .

"And I only see people posting pics."
i have to totally agree with you rafiqo .. and i post my part of share in the thread.. i like posting pics and i think many others too like to post pics too ...

"Very rarely see any other things posted to share. Almost nothing to learn."
hmmm ... page one see very informative to me. in my own view and i feel ryo did a very good job in it ... btw my smiple RJ plastic tank is in it..

"And the abbreviations. Oh the darned abbreviations. You can only find people abbreviating scorpion names in here. No where else."
that is not true !!!!!...i also posted in almost every other forum too ...... i use my short form not only in this forum !!! try surfing venomlist and the others.. and you will be able to notice my darned abbreviations in it too ....

"Put yourselves in the shoes of a newcomer. And learn what HH, LM, IM, PB, PT, HS, HL, PI and whatever the ficken else you shorten at wihs."
PLEASE ALL TO THOSES USES THOSE " darned abbreviations " ...
i uses those darned abbreviations too and have to admit my bad fault too. , i play a bad role for newcomers but i am too lazy to type out the whole thing. to be frank and smiple .. I AM JUST PLAIN LAZY ... to type out the whole thing ........ but from today onwards .. i will change my lazyness ........ will type the full name of the scorpions ... cross my heart ... swear .......
thanks for the advises ....rafiqos....


Alrite ... hope that all were explained and everyone is happy ... ...... peace


btw .. i recieved my emp scorplings today .. opps i should say Pandinus imperator instead . . sorry ....~~~~ .. All alive ... nice...
p/s : thanks mr yeoh ...

alrite ... raf raf,.

As mentioned in my previous reply to you, With regards to the darned abbreviations i been using which u have 101 reasons and unhappiness abt it, i have ready said i stop using it.
i believe that should have end to that topic earlier.


one point i like to explain further ...
As I recall, someone mentioned that it's good that potent bugs are available for hobbyists to study them. However, nothing of supportive advocacy is displayed.

For your kind info, a few with these " potent bugs " have been "happy" and studying them . research materials and pointers have been shared among but it just not posted.
people have their freedom to post whatever they want with regards to their research materials which i have no control over that . Same goes to sharing of it . What can i do if they decided not to post? As for me .. posting pictures are my way of sharing my experience , a picture means a thousands words .. i don't spoon feed , lots of details and information can be arrived from the pictures alone, it just that if the "interested" persons is "ready" interested in it and look into details.and beyond... i am not a DOGMATIC person that goes round telling people how to do things or how things have to be done. people who know me - know me for that ...

do look at things beyond the line sometime..... out of the well ......

and lastly about the "not unhappy with only you". well ... i don't know who are the others u are not happy with too .. but as for me .. bill cosby once said " i dont know the secret of happiness, but i know that i can't please everyone" ..

anyway .. sam got a point here .. these few posting of ours does not seems to be of "supportive advocacy" as mention by you in scorpion thread either and i suggest we take this to PM or msn ...... i believe you have aready make ur point clear and i made mine . no point dwelling it further here and does not what ones is preaching....

Like mentioned by you , i take it the way i want and you too suit your fancy ..

thus this shall end the topic and make everyone else happy ............

i "rest" my CASE ..........

:peace peace

This post has been edited by s98432512: Apr 11 2010, 11:22 AM

Well as mentioned in my last reply .. these few posting of ours does not seems to be of "supportive advocacy" and i suggested to bring it over pm or msn .. but since u rejected the idea ..
this will be my last reply to you with regards to this issue as to "rest" the case as i feel it reali does not serve any purposes in the scorpion thread as what one is not doing of one's saying .

As for the improvement , nah ... no worries ... raq raq .. my english always been the same ... no help from google or anything . waste of time, i don't bother to waste my time to check online for such things , for such purposes and for such people .. just that someone kept using this word on my msn chat refering to someone regarding this issue .. .. lol .. so i just use it. btw dun thank me .. thank the person that kept using this word in my msn chat LOL ... and onlines dictonaries can't clam any thanks from you this time .. LOL ....
Nope i on't take it as a personal attack. You are capable of more stuff and i seen it before .. so i don't take this as one ... but more of a friendly advise from a friend. or do you mean this is a personal attack ??? Then u should n't have done in public, and somemore in this thread which is of none "supportive advocacy"

Like mentioned by you ... posts worth reading on this thread comes from Ryo, akagidemon and Rideon ..of cos i agreed.. i agreed .. everything u say i too agree ... LOL.. hmm then again you can just read what u felt worth reading lor no one forcing to read thoses not worth reading ... You got the freedom to choose to read or not ma... if u feel my post not worth reading .. then pass to the next .. but anyway no ones care much duo . take it as a fact..

nah ... u are not harsh , so you didn't need to be sorry too.. .. to be frank ..the reasons i still replying you is because i am "free" to "entertain" you, but i will not when monday start .. time to work again ... sign ...neverending.... . As far as i know .my life still goes on and i happy. , meet new friends and upkeep with olds


You too have a nice day and take care ol' friend..

p/s : btw raq raq , luckily it your phone bills .. not mine LOL ..

thanks in advance lol ..

Ya ryo , personally i think it is also a trivial thing touch on the listing of the abbreviations, but it juz my suggestion on my part .. i understand your good will and will fully support you if you decided to go ahead with. As for myself , you don't have to worried too much abt me rafiqos LOL , i will do part my part as of what i agreed and mentioned in the earlier posting. so consider your battle won .

And yes before i forget ......... rafiqos ... don't worry about your posts hurting me . well ... frankly they don't .. not abit.. why in the world would you thinks they hurts me ????.. LOL. ... Dun worry too much and concent - rate on ur wedding ...LOL... lots of things to do wor ....... .... and yes ... we will have a chance to speak and talk when i am in KL for shopping trips .. hmm pictures ah ... pics could be better .. still figuring out the DSLR ......... headache but have to thanks alot for andrew for giving much good information and tech on usage on it ...... thanks andrew ...

well guys ... cheers .... let see some changes and improvement together ....... in scorpion thread ...........

lol ... nice to know you too uncle lim and i have to admit that is one big mite.. lol .. btw the mite reali look like you ...



the the a.australlis is sold to an old timer in this hobby i got to know some time back ... we become friends and learned much from him ... in fact i believe he screened me and my sp before commited to get from me lol ... and as for the screening for other spieces like the recently Parabuthus Transvaalicus scoprion.. i got quite a few nice but funny answer ... for example i rem one very long session with a person we all know . we. covered almost everything from handling , Parabuthus Transvaalicus 's back ground to what to d if tagged etc and he got most of them all wrong ......... but then again my leg was what he was pulling .... well ... bottom line ... at least i know he know the pro and cons of what he is getting ....

hope i answer ur question

btw i forget to add on something ... normally after that i will do some background check with my peers followed by a chat online to see the attitude if right before commiting on the deal .for new buyer ..hmmm to be frank not much experience on this from me as i hardly sell and the scorpions mostly goes to ..hmmm the peers ... lol ... aiaya .. u guys knwo who u are ... lol ....


anyway ... i think maybe the more experience people who have been selling can explained more on this and serve as a basic for others to earn too ...

Hi dizzychef ,

Nope , i think you got me wrong . I have figure out the screening method before i start selling the a.austils hector ( tusian ) or Parabuthus transvaalicus scorpion. Well maybe my methods were not as good as yours and you felt it is not enough. i do hope u can share with us more in details here and i welcome comments and advies we learn along the way .. but do rest assure. in my times when i first start dangerous sp ,which in fact last year .. .. the screening were .. hmmm how to say ...worse than you would imagine..btw i also dun quite understand some of the things you are refering to. please do enlighten me as you go along this post .. . the ones in blue are the ones i dun understand.. sorry for my bad english ..

Yes i agree the scorpion community is not great, which ended only this few buyer which know or lets say assume the consequence and ready to die for the hobby?(i thought rafiq is this kind until he sold off) damn. But haven't really experience the bad part. And i hope they never.
i wasn't sure what you are trying to say here , please enlighten..

Rafiq has a good point when he mention it. For me as what your potraying is their beauty thats all, plus your selling and might strike newcomer attention with impulse buying. Is not hamster nor dogs or cats is something potentially fatal which you seriously think most of us here can REALLY deal with it? No offense.

yes i do agree rafiqos have a good point there, my selling might strike newcommer attention and buy on impulse. but just to explained further, that is why screening are carry out to determine if the buyer is not ready for it. i will not sell.

Well for you, it seems only i am potraying their beauty but for others it may not, as mentioned by me before, a pictures mean a thousand words. i do not spoon feed. IMO , A "interested" keeper of the invert would go beyond just looking at the scorpion in the pics but also into what is the at the background of the pic , example... method of housing , correct subrate used or to be used, type of choice of deco. types of mositure retaining materials, ideas in creating tanks for new commers etc , all can be seen in pics ... i recieved many ideas and method of keeping from just alone in pics from many others, breeder and hobbist both from local and oversea .. we exchange ideas and also resouces in getting and correct others if any of us did a wrong or how to improve to something better. i hope i explained clearly ...

And i seriously do not think most can really deal with danerous sp. Sorry to say, no offence but one of them include you . i explain more.

btw i am very interested and at the same time worried in which 2 dangerous sp you are keeping currently . Do share with us more of your setup and method of keeping scoprion with us.

no offence too but to be serious. if you are just having plastic cages and nothing else . IMO i would not be selling you anything . not even a single Heterometrus Spinifer scoprion as you are way "short" of tools . i would say..basic common sense could tell you that it required more tools for example like at least a 12" s/s tweezer , double container ( one of it which of a bigger size for transfer of scorpions or daily manintence stuff, change of the cages / tank bedding purposes etc.. ) , double cages method .. and also preventive measures like escape proof plan etc and also like a proper place to place these tank or cages ( say a cabinet ) .. protected with locks etc for unwanted access, espically with kids around and also a proper work area to carry out these chorus as it is also a very important part of the keeping of dangerous sp..in terms of reducing unwanted escape of the invert or accidental knock off to the min etc.

next would be feeders ... as it play a very important role in scorpion keeping too ... gut loading , cleaniness of the feeders tanks etc .. parasites is a killer !!!

Coming to think of it, i strongly suggest you to pass or sell the two dangerous sp u are having currently to someone with proper equipments and the right mind set when keeping dangerous sp as in my own view - no offence.. these precautions have to be taken care of and way before you even start . Get the right setup before even attempting to get any dangerous sp. It better for yourself and the scorpion too in terms of personal safety , . you can try contacting ryo if you wan to let it up for adoption, i think he can help u find a good home for the two dangerous sp ..

i am not sure if this issue we are going to discuss further is of any related to this thread .. and i would suggest we talk it over pm or msn..
as it seems like it is related to scorpion and also sort of unrelated to socprion keeping.

Hmmm ryo, sam or riddeon , do tell me if this is unrelated and i will stop from here and proceed to private messages instead ...

best regards ..

well...dizzychef

No problem my english is bad 2 i only a chef not an engineer like you, i apologize for the blue sentence. Don't bother about it. End.
hmm okie ... btw do engineer need to have good english ??? anw i don't understand .....

no worries .. hope my explaination are able to answer your curious mind..

yes i did mentioned " i seriously do not think most can really deal with danerous sp " . but does it mean i cannot post it in a public place or forum and sell with my so called method of screening ??? not explaining or writing in full details of my screening procedues here doesn't mean i am not confident . Do i need to write a full method of statement for it??? or a approval ???
anw i am juzt stating some of my guideline in general terms when u asked , relax ... further details if required by you, can always pm me for it. i am okie with it .

So it now begans , a report with full details of my doing here just to make someone "comfortable" ? or should i say "pleased" someone ??? let see... have anyone here done that before ???? lol... i wonder when of all of a sudden, people are so "keen" anw ... maybe my reply of the screening method does not suit you .. why not share with us "yours" i would be very eager to learn more..
i believe many are too...

And to be frank . what realli make me start to think that why most can't deal with hots sp is the mind frame one is having and respect for oneself and the inverts he/she is keeping... and not the ability house or care nor to handle for the scoprions. for example would be quite clear of who "these" people were. "i use my hand for maintenance sometime chopstick when i am eating rice. I use them to control my pest roach at home. I pay medical insurance just for this reason. Hospital is few blocks away" do i have to say more.. well

likewise mentioned by you, " i am not familiar with you", either do i , i only know you been in this hobby way back before many of us here. but think back.. when we started as newbies ... there is a time when we first get our first hots specimens. if without the encouragment and guidelines from older" shifu" or chances . would we ever grow in this hobby locally? If my peers didn't warn me of the pros and cons, i believe i would never have a chance to venture into barks and not to say deserts. i still rems the days when i first get my first hots and barks scorpion scorpions.. knowledge were passed on from 1 to the other via email / pm etc ... seraching via internet and experimenting .. anw i am just stating my view. you can disagree.

So much of letting the the community of scorpion keeping slowly grow locally when there wan't even chances for them to attemp. if u would to understand this

My sales thread is on AB you can see the sp. Seriously i sell to anyone that seem genuine, as i am PLAIN SELFISH to think US hobbyist is able to handle it, i only care for the tiny little circle of hobby back home.
Well it is ur method of selling at AB, you call the shots..... Do link ur sale thread .. or pm me the link . i would be interested to take a look, and... i not sure of US culture or if they have a screening issue or method. OR alll were just selling to anyone that seems genuine... i don't know.... but for one thing i know ... thoses i know from my selling , we make good friends and exchange pointers.

btw with regards to the pics again .. i believe i never once stated that the persons who see my pics will turn to "automode" straight or a good hobbist.. but what i mean is the "interested" person will look "beyond" and realise else things and again i made new friends from total strangers when they pm / email me for further details thru these. like where did you get your sand from ?? or that nice barks etc etc or asking why there is a need for these or that and i also learn when sometime people give advises to me ... like if i am to do this would be incorrect or what u been doing could be better etc there is an exchange of ideas but anyway .. the pictures are just another way of expressing message or information via graphic form either from texts .. every pic have a storey to tell on not only with related to scorpion itself but very much link to photography skill if u were to realise ..

sorry to quote a good friend " hauser " from scorpion forum .. his pictures were superb and i believe many will agreed. very much were understand from his pictures . landscaping , type of bedding used , tank size ..etc etc ... i alwys further confirm details with him via pm . and many a time he gave me very good informations.. for example.. there was once i asked him on O.innesi scorpions keeping.and breeding and to my supprise. the informations and knowledge he advise me is something i could not find even find on the internet or the STOM .. but sad to say .. it quite different here.. they are always some that is waiting to be spoon feed.. but rem no people own another for a living.

Pics too encourages or so call promote ones interest . there could be thoses really interested and serious about it and also thoses on impulse. there are pros and cons for everything.. why always look at things the bad side ... dun we need to see things at the gd side sometime ????

Anyway dizzychef, i am not pinpointing you and no offence.. but i felt it is a good chance for newbies when they are reading this... as i felt it serve as a good brainstorming for them with regards in this issue and hots specimens. i see it a good topic as part of scorpion keeping ... and i also wanted to clear myself that so far til now the ones i been selling were always at cost , near cost or some even under cost. . thoses who have imported themselves before would know the prices and risk involved. i not making money and only hope to do my part in promoting the this hobby locally. specimens sold are personally fed and kept awhile by me to montior for to make sure it is health before it transit to another person .

Well... much are said .....

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Added on April 13, 2010, 10:52 pmi realise i getting more and more long winded .............. starting to nag long things ....... damned

This post has been edited by s98432512: Apr 13 2010, 10:53 PM

sharing here one common scorpion named the deathstalker - (Leiurus quinquestriatus), its powerful venom compensates for the scorpion's weaker pincers and lack of brawny .

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

The deathstalker (Leiurus quinquestriatus), is a species of scorpion from the Buthidae family. It is also known the israeli desert scorpion and numerous other colloquial names, which generally originate from the commercial captive trade of the animal. To eliminate confusion, especially with potentially dangerous species, the scientific name is normally used to refer to them. The name Leiurus quinquestriatus roughly translates into English as "five-striped smooth-tail". Other species of the genus Leiurus are often referred to as "deathstalkers" as well.

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Arthropoda
Subphylum: Chelicerata
Class: Arachnida
Order: Scorpiones
Family: Buthidae
Genus: Leiurus
Species: L. quinquestriatus
Binomial name : Leiurus quinquestriatus

The deathstalker is regarded as a highly dangerous species because its venom is a powerful cocktail of neurotoxins, with a LD50 rating. While a sting from this scorpion is extremely painful, it normally would not kill an otherwise healthy adult human. However, young children, the elderly, or infirm (such as those with a heart condition or those who are allergic) would be at much greater risk. Any envenomation runs the risk of anaphylaxis, a potentially life-threatening allergic reaction to the venom. If a sting from Leiurus quinquestriatus does prove fatal, the cause of death is usually pulmonary edema. The German pharmaceutical company Twyford and the French pharmaceutical company Sanofi Pasteur both make an antivenom intended for the treatment of deathstalker envenomations.

Neurotoxins in L.quinquestriatus venom include the following:

Chlorotoxin
Charybdotoxin
Scyllatoxin
Agitoxins type 1, 2 and 3

a newly molted 5th instar Leiurus quinquestriatus back a couple of week ago ..

a nice mating vids on youtube.. sharing on a uncommon sp and relatively new in the hobby ....

Rhopalurus princeps


owner of this vids : Kisuse

Hi ... lol.... i wonder wha type of free gift was given to you ... how come i do not have any when i meet you sam the other time ????
LOL ................



btw ... i tot this might be of useful information for newbies



Scorpion anatomy:
1 = Cephalothorax or Prosoma;
2 = Abdomen or Mesosoma;
3 = Tail or Metasoma;
4 = Claws or Pedipalps
5 = Legs;
6 = Mouth parts or Chelicerae;
7 = pincers or Chelae;
8 = Moveable claw or Manus;
9 = Fixed claw or Tarsus;
10 = Sting or Telson;
11 = Anus