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 ♥♪,Nokia 5800 XpressMusic a.k.a "TUBE" V19 ♥♪, V31 firmware through NSU!!!

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post Sep 30 2009, 01:17 PM

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I don't think that's possible.
That reminds me I have a gripe about how night mode behaves in "User Defined" scene mode. It doesn't behave like it's in night mode, the shutter speed isn't slow enough to capture more light. But in ordinary night mode it's fine, makes great pictures.
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post Oct 1 2009, 11:13 AM

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It'll help if you stay still when the satellites are trying to get a lock on you, especially if you have A-GPS off.
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post Oct 1 2009, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 1 2009, 11:14 AM)
make sure surrounding u have clear sky. Easier to get lock if got building or structure take longer
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Yeah. Mobile phone GPS receivers aren't very sensitive.

QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 1 2009, 11:16 AM)
So far, i didn't wait. Just start driving, no problem.  rclxms.gif Of course, i only drive at 60km/h or so, since just started out and not yet into the main roads. 3 minutes is very acceptable for FOC locking. So far, i haven't encounter signal lost problem at all unless i got down from the car and walked into a building.
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QUOTE(sai @ Oct 1 2009, 11:19 AM)
i connected when driving also, 5mins or so la, stay still also abt the same duration...
not like u r alwayz surrounded by twin tower wat...LOL
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The Garmin software calculation is probably very good at determinig position.
Aaah maths, is there anything you can't do. tongue.gif
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post Oct 1 2009, 01:23 PM

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This discussion reminds me that I haven't used my Maps ever since the FW update.
Wow, with A-GPS on, it took merely around 20 seconds to lock!
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post Oct 2 2009, 11:22 AM

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I think the sub title needs to be changed a little.
"Front Page, it's there".

Anyways, my H.264 encoding seems to be going very very slowly. yawn.gif
Maybe can be put on FP for future references. When I'm able to get it done before i go to Kuching tomorrow night though.

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post Oct 2 2009, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 2 2009, 11:37 AM)
Like this H.264 encoding thing its new to everyone. I dont mind help testing and give feedback or find a better way.


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Good.
So far I've only gone to 368x208 @ 960kbps.
Going any higher bitrate would defeat the purpose of encoding with that codec. We're trying to achieve small filesize with just as good a quality.
I think I'll go lower but bigger frame size so pixelation won't be as bad when the video stretches to fill the screen.

Currently I'm aiming at around 60% the original file size, +/- 5%. Anything bigger and I dump it. tongue.gif

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post Oct 2 2009, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 2 2009, 12:51 PM)
Keep us updated. Haha havent put any nice video on my phone. The video u are converting is it a full DVD video? or Video clips size?
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I did attempt on converting a full DVD rip(1280x720).
But that took way too long, have to downsize anyways and I don't have much time. So instead I am now converting TV rips of top Gear, my favourite TV show. The original rip is perfectly sized for our tube(640x352, as it is ripped from British tv broadcast) and it looks brilliant as it is, DVD like if it weren't for its size. So I think it's a perfect one to start with.

BTW, we need a more competent video players in our Tube. It can handle high bitrate MPEG4 no problems at all, but can't handle even a large frame sized h.264 video, what's with that?

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I discovered one thing. I turned on CABAC profile on(some kinda lossless compression method, one of the features of h.264) and it significantly reduced filesize while maintaining quality. However, encoding time is SLOW...............

Yet to know if it works on the Tube though. biggrin.gif

EDIT: Nope, too complex for the tube to decode.

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QUOTE(neo_sharky @ Oct 2 2009, 05:20 PM)
from Tutorial guides how to convert video for tube, written bu Eiraku at FP, im stuck on step #3. can anyone teach me how? i ended put the destination file same as the source file, then the video corrupted already. btw, im trying converting .mkv file to .mp4
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Well then, put the file somewhere else other than where the original source is.
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post Oct 2 2009, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(neo_sharky @ Oct 2 2009, 07:47 PM)
like in the tutorials, Eiraku put in the destination file column C:\Users\Eiraku\Videos\haha.mp4
this haha.mp4 is already existed or not?
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As long as the directory is different, it doesn't matter if the file name already exist.
You can assign the same name, but MUST be at a different place.

I think Eiraku changed the name to haha. From what I can see, the files are at the same place, but the file name changed from something-something.avi, to haha.mp4

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Is it possible that the phone misinterpreted? laugh.gif
Free space is read as used space? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(apecx92 @ Oct 2 2009, 09:39 PM)
im new owner of 5800 ap..i just update my nokia 5800 to v21..then i know that new one is v31..then i try update it again using nsu but but newest ver for my phone is v21 only..why?
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Since your phone is AP, it might have a different product code. Each region has a product code, and firmware availability is region dependent.
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post Oct 2 2009, 09:46 PM

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No, if done correctly, which is quite easy and will not do anything if you screw it up, which most probably you wouldn't.
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post Oct 2 2009, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(apecx92 @ Oct 2 2009, 09:51 PM)
so i need just to wait la..shit,my ap phone are from hk..that means how long must to waits?
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That is unpredictable. Some regions don't even get past v21.
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QUOTE(apecx92 @ Oct 2 2009, 09:58 PM)
but i will get it some day isit?
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Just wait and see.
I just checked at Nokia's website,and yeah, only v21 for now.
You can check at Nokia's website under software and support, and device software update. click "Can I update?".
But sometimes the website is too slow to update.

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post Oct 2 2009, 10:13 PM

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OMG, H.264 have trouble playing on the tube if it's larger than 320x240. I got it to play, but the video looks all weird and demented.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Oct 2 2009, 10:36 PM)
that's because your ratio not right. check your video size first then calculate. say your video is 1280x534, say u want 320 res, u do 1280/320 = 4. then u do 534/4=133.5..u can use 320x133 / 320x134 without noticable ratio issues. otherwise ur aspect ratio will be out and will look stretched. hope this helps.
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Demented as in, the video is zig-zaggy, the display change won't do anything, zoom, natural, original. Nothing, just some zig-zagging images. It was 368x208, a preset in the SUPER video converter and it is a widescreen resolution(16:9)
I got it to play but that's what happened.

And just so happens, I discovered why. H.264 on the Tube only goes up to QVGA resolution. Although can stretch it a bit higher, it won't do any good if it goes too high.

Successfully played 320x176, no hickups, and it actually doesn't look that bad. Not the DVD quality it used to be but for most people, it's not bad at all.


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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Oct 2 2009, 10:44 PM)
Haha.mp4 eh... Haha, it's been soooooo long, i really can't comment much on what I actually intended to do back then... laugh.gif

Great work, though, on the H.264 experiments, tunertoobe and the gang. I'm more of a resolution guy myself, so I'm gonna stick to XVID at full res, even if I need to tone the bitrate down a tad due to the 5800 not being able to handle EXTREMELY high bitrates.

On a hind note, to circumvent the problem with the 5800 NOT having a playlist for videos (need to go over to Symbian-Freak and sound this off, someone might program something in Py for this), I merged some anime series together - cutting out more then 1 instance of the OP and ED. One thing I can NEVER get right is the fact that for a 12-season series, somewhere in the middle, the voice and video gets out of sync (voice approx 1-2 secs behind the vid) and I never really could get that right.

Anybody have amy idea how to solve this little issue? In the meantime, I'm gonna go create a new thread on a playlist program for the default video player over at SymFreaks.
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Did you change the frame rate? That might be the culprit. Is there an option to just let the frame rate stay as it is in the original source?
The best codec to play it is the MPEG4 afterall. I once encoded to over 2800kbps and it played flawlessly. ALthough the phone got a bit warm. tongue.gif

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Yeah, tried level 2.1 and it won't play at all, not even sound.

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Oct 2 2009, 10:59 PM)
2.1? max should be level 2 rite? have u tried level 2? mine no issues..i'm using formatfactory, its free.
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I'm using SUPER. I am encoding at Level 2.
There's level 5, but doubt the Tube can handle Blu Ray quality. laugh.gif

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Level 2 works with the right resolution. I'm trying to get the frame size as big as possible.

EDIT: I think 352x208 is as large as it ever gets. Now trying to see the highest bit rate possible.

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