homegrown also a player that already with the english or welsh club for at least 3 season before he turn 21...chelsea got bunch of youngster that already pass the limit and reach the limit next season...from our 1st team..only 1 senior player must go out...not much different...sice chelsea start to establish academy and reserves sice the Roman era start..

No Wan. It means out of 25, 17 players (at most) can be non HG. The rest MUST be HG.
Now the definition of HG is the players must play with an English or Welsh club, for at least 3 years before the reach 21 years old. The HG is not necessarily be U21. They can be for say 25 but trained with an English or Welsh FC for at least 3 years before they reach 21.

I know that. But as things got clearer, it's just like the CL squad rule, which isn't bad at all right now. But expect the numbers to change over the years in favour of more HG players which would be fine.

So 17nonHG+8HG players in the squad list. But those U-21 players that doesn't make the list can still play for the team in the league.

Meaning to say the HG rule only applies to players who are age 22 and more?

I think so.

i guess whether you guys mess it up or i mess it up, it only stated gotta be train @ english or wales, it can be french, italian, spaniard, malaysian, or any nationality, as long as it is train under english or wales for at least 3y below age 21

Maybe we are confusing ourselves here... methinks it merely says that you need to register a maximum of 25 blokes, and 8 of them must have spent 3 years playing in either Wales or England before they hit 21. So does not matter if they are currently 20 or 40
At the same time you are allowed to bolster your squad with under 21's, but that doesn't mean that you can have less than 8 'homegrown' talents still...

what if someone was signed when he was 20? The first season he will not be considered a 'gaijin', but ironically after spending one or two seasons at the club, he hits 22 and becomes a non homegrown

Also, what does 'play' mean exactly? Playing competitively? Registered to a club or academy? Sunday league? A kickabout in the playground?

This post has been edited by madmoz: Sep 15 2009, 05:32 PM

Players get old, those that make the cut maybe will be old/need replacing etc. That's where the U-21 comes in later on even though they won't qualify as a HG, but would improve to make them good enough to be considered as part of the main squad replacing the outgoing members of the squad(non HG) etc.

What I mean play is that, they get a chance to play in the EPL. I got confused before with the max 25 players things. But now that's cleared up, guess it's not so much of a problem. If there was a max 25 players only able to be registered, those youngsters that don't make the cut won't get a chance to play in the league..

But for someone like Hargreaves.. where does that leave him. He's not HG..

ironic init?

Maddie, it's not play, it' trained. So, doesn't matter whether you played with English/Welsh club or not, as long as you with them for 3 years before you reach 21, then you will be considered HG already.

yup, noticed that too when i read the whole article again. sorry, my bad.

they will win the appeal for sure.

If this rules goes on, i think EPL will suffer the same fate as F1

so many rules now.. football will get boring..

yap even the penalty box official ? what is that??

they made sick for themselves!