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Wan
post Sep 15 2009, 12:57 PM

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Not all.

Clubs can name 17 non HG players. 8 have to be U-21/HG.
I'm still confused. Does that mean the limit is 25 players able to be registered and play at any season? That would be crap.
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post Sep 15 2009, 02:26 PM

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Means those youngsters not special enough to be considered in the team might not get the chance to play at all if the chance presented itself. Stupid rule. Well done!

And that stupid 90mins rule about signing youngsters in England should be gone by now..
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post Sep 15 2009, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(blinky @ Sep 15 2009, 02:35 PM)
Theoretically, they can still play in League Cup and FA Cup.
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What good is that limiting the chances for the youngsters? We fielded a lot of young ones last season against Hull in the last game of the season.

The more I read the more I'm confused. Now they're saying in the 25 man list squad, 8 must be U-21/HG leaving the 17 other spots to those non HG players. But any extra U-21 can be used during the season, something like the CL squad list.. is that right? That would make things better if that's true.

QUOTE(faris21 @ Sep 15 2009, 02:50 PM)
Chelsea is the biggest victim as they need find more homegrown next season but the cant sign any player
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Not sure they need to buy any players except for strengthening. Their squad is already strong as it is and is a contender every season. Keep the same squad next few years they would still be around the top challenging till the end.
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post Sep 15 2009, 03:30 PM

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I know that. But as things got clearer, it's just like the CL squad rule, which isn't bad at all right now. But expect the numbers to change over the years in favour of more HG players which would be fine.

So 17nonHG+8HG players in the squad list. But those U-21 players that doesn't make the list can still play for the team in the league.
QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 15 2009, 02:58 PM)
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5560131,00.html

1. "As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown," Scudamore said.

2. "The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system.

3. Players who are aged under 21 are eligible over and above the limit of 25 players per squad.
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post Sep 15 2009, 04:59 PM

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I think so.
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post Sep 15 2009, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Sep 15 2009, 05:29 PM)
Maybe we are confusing ourselves here... methinks it merely says that you need to register a maximum of 25 blokes, and 8 of them must have spent 3 years playing in either Wales or England before they hit 21. So does not matter if they are currently 20 or 40 laugh.gif
At the same time you are allowed to bolster your squad with under 21's, but that doesn't mean that you can have less than 8 'homegrown' talents still...

hmm.gif what if someone was signed when he was 20? The first season he will not be considered a 'gaijin', but ironically after spending one or two seasons at the club, he hits 22 and becomes a non homegrown doh.gif

Also, what does 'play' mean exactly? Playing competitively? Registered to a club or academy?
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Players get old, those that make the cut maybe will be old/need replacing etc. That's where the U-21 comes in later on even though they won't qualify as a HG, but would improve to make them good enough to be considered as part of the main squad replacing the outgoing members of the squad(non HG) etc.

What I mean play is that, they get a chance to play in the EPL. I got confused before with the max 25 players things. But now that's cleared up, guess it's not so much of a problem. If there was a max 25 players only able to be registered, those youngsters that don't make the cut won't get a chance to play in the league..

But for someone like Hargreaves.. where does that leave him. He's not HG.. laugh.gif

 

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