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yrh0413
post Nov 11 2009, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Nov 11 2009, 06:49 PM)
I wonder if leica really make "200/2 ZF" then xandman pigi beli sweat.gif
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it is close to impossible to make telephoto lens for rangefinders, let alone f/2!
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post Nov 11 2009, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Nov 11 2009, 06:49 PM)
I wonder if leica really make "200/2 ZF" then xandman pigi beli sweat.gif
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ZF is a Zeiss Designation lah.

Leica uses the designation of M/R/ER or the -vid, -lux, -cron suffixes.


Added on November 11, 2009, 6:58 pm
QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Nov 11 2009, 06:50 PM)
it is close to impossible to make telephoto lens for rangefinders, let alone f/2!
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Believe it or not it's actually easier due to the shorter flange distance, the need for a longer exit pupil is no longer there. It's just that RF users have generally gravitated towards portrait and street photography, so there's really no market for these beasts.

The TeleSuperAchromat if adapted to 35mm size does have a near F/1 aperture. Plus if Leica can make the 0.95 F Noctilux, it doesn't seem that far fetched.

This post has been edited by empire23: Nov 11 2009, 06:58 PM
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post Nov 11 2009, 07:29 PM

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bought a new bag for myself ! oops,is for my baby D60 rclxms.gif
i am downgrading instead of upgrade,haha
although fastpack is big enough to fit few lens but i dont think i will have so much lens while i am outing,baggy bag will make me not feeling to bring my camera go out
so i decide get a smaller 1
the bag is rocking tongue.gif

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post Nov 11 2009, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Nov 11 2009, 06:50 PM)
it is close to impossible to make telephoto lens for rangefinders, let alone f/2!
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it is not impossible to make it for RF...
it's juz doesnt make sense...
even with a 135mm u can hardly get a sharp image....
let alone 200mm at f2!
this is due to the viewfinder....
it doesnt magnify according to the lense used...
u might say u can add external VF...
think again...for wide angles...u can do hyperfocal...
for teles....if u hyperfocal...u r F*ed la basically... sweat.gif

btw if leica does come out with that lense it will be called Summicron 200 ASPH. brows.gif


Added on November 11, 2009, 7:48 pm
QUOTE(tun @ Nov 11 2009, 07:29 PM)
bought a new bag for myself ! oops,is for my baby D60  rclxms.gif
i am downgrading instead of upgrade,haha
although fastpack is big enough to fit few lens but i dont think i will have so much lens while i am outing,baggy bag will make me not feeling to bring my camera go out
so i decide get a smaller 1
the bag is rocking tongue.gif

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nice bag bro!
i m using it too!
is this the 7 million equivalent?

i m using it for my d3 + ex-70-200... sad.gif

This post has been edited by xandman: Nov 11 2009, 07:48 PM
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post Nov 11 2009, 07:51 PM

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hmm... i read somewhere that it is impossible to make telephoto lens for rangefinders; have to dig up the source though.

ah found it, I misinteprete the following quote though:
"Rangefinder cameras work well with lenses up to 135mm. After that, the only way to use them is with stupid Visoflex and reflex attachments, which turns them into SLRs. " from http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/rangefinder-vs-slr.htm



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post Nov 11 2009, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Nov 11 2009, 07:51 PM)
hmm... i read somewhere that it is impossible to make telephoto lens for rangefinders; have to dig up the source though.

ah found it, I misinteprete the following quote though:
"Rangefinder cameras work well with lenses up to 135mm. After that, the only way to use them is with stupid Visoflex and reflex attachments, which turns them into SLRs. " from http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/rangefinder-vs-slr.htm
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but RF....is wayyyyyyyyy superior in the wideangle part! brows.gif


Added on November 11, 2009, 7:59 pmwith the visoflex...the main advantage of a rangefinder is eliminated!
it becomes bulky...ugly...and yeah ugly... biggrin.gif

visoflex is actually to aid focusing and thats all....
bcoz conventional frame lines starts only from 28-135.
beyond that...u need a VF with above 1.0x magnification... =)
even 1.0x VF is super rare...let alone above 1.0x...

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post Nov 11 2009, 08:13 PM

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this is visoflex?
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fuiyo~ the whole RF setup is even bigger than a 500D!! laugh.gif
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post Nov 11 2009, 08:30 PM

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that setup could be heavier than a d3 setup!
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post Nov 11 2009, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(xandman @ Nov 11 2009, 07:46 PM)
it is not impossible to make it for RF...
it's juz doesnt make sense...
even with a 135mm u can hardly get a sharp image....
let alone 200mm at f2!
this is due to the viewfinder....
it doesnt magnify according to the lense used...
u might say u can add external VF...
think again...for wide angles...u can do hyperfocal...
for teles....if u hyperfocal...u r F*ed la basically... sweat.gif

btw if leica does come out with that lense it will be called Summicron 200 ASPH.    brows.gif


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nice bag bro!
i m using it too!
is this the 7 million equivalent?

i m using it for my d3 + ex-70-200... sad.gif
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i am not pretty sure what size.but it is L size in bagman la,is it quivalent 7 million ?
i just fit it with d60 plus sb600
going get more soon,haha,poison
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post Nov 11 2009, 09:41 PM

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bugger! xandman's shots with the 200mm is like the chic almost flying out from the pic. laugh.gif
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post Nov 11 2009, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(tun @ Nov 11 2009, 09:39 PM)
i am not pretty sure what size.but it is L size in bagman la,is it quivalent 7 million ?
i just fit it with d60 plus sb600
going get more soon,haha,poison
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yup its the 7 mill equiv.!
same like mine!
same color oso!
its worth the price!
how much u got it for?
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post Nov 11 2009, 10:41 PM

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I'm using the same bag too, got it for RM120 IINM.
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post Nov 11 2009, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(shinjun @ Nov 11 2009, 10:41 PM)
I'm using the same bag too, got it for RM120 IINM.
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wow i got mine the medium one for RM180 last year sad.gif
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wow ! u get rm120 only ar , i get for rm135 leh,haix
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post Nov 12 2009, 01:38 AM

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where u all get the bag??
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post Nov 12 2009, 02:43 AM

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I got it from Direct Photo cheras. smile.gif Correction, just refer back the receipt, I got it for RM100, they clear stock le. smile.gif

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post Nov 12 2009, 09:06 AM

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I got the bag at 120.
but to be able to withstand some beating..
i think it's worth it! biggrin.gif

ianho...
some say the pic was taken in a studio! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xandman @ Nov 12 2009, 09:06 AM)
I got the bag at 120.
but to be able to withstand some beating..
i think it's worth it! biggrin.gif

ianho...
some say the pic was taken in a studio! sweat.gif
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N some say Batam too. laugh.gif
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post Nov 12 2009, 10:18 AM

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check the grass to see how thin the dof is sweat.gif
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post Nov 12 2009, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 12 2009, 09:28 AM)
N some say Batam too. laugh.gif
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hahahahaha... tongue.gif

QUOTE(DecaPix @ Nov 12 2009, 10:18 AM)
check the grass to see how thin the dof is sweat.gif
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i was above 7-8 meters away....lying like a sniper...
lense too heavy!

and yes the DOF is VERY thin!

if it's any thinner....ull cut ur nose while viewing thru the viewfinder!

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