QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Sep 12 2009, 10:27 AM)
i'm not saying it's not true..I'm just saying give credit to those unsung heroes too..that's all..It's not like those ALL ppl overseas came out helping mugged ppl on the fly anyway.
face it, we live in a materialistic world. We're afraid to die for others and we cry n depressed most of the time for materialistic reasons. We dissed others so we can feel better.
i could care shit for politician's slogan. Either BN or PR. Both are the same.
So you agree that this is true, but you are more address the fact that I did not give credit to those unsung heroes? I agree, not "ALL ppl overseas" come out helping, there are those who are as selfish as Malaysians here, but more often than not, you see more "ppl overseas" are inclined to speak up against these injustice than a typical Malaysian.
QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Sep 12 2009, 10:35 AM)
Sadly speaking, its the same all over the world. Politicians everywhere are corrupted, and we always end up pointing fingers at each other. Its a sad case, but that's just reality. the weird thing is how people choose to be backwards instead of forwards. Besides, a simple saying among everyone is why should we give a damn if we don't get anything back, or its just a waste time righto?
And also, WHERE THE HELL IS MURAMASA???
Exactomundo! Typical Malaysian train of thought, "if it does not benefit me, why should I care?" Which feeds into the "tidak apa" attitude.
QUOTE(evoHahn @ Sep 12 2009, 10:43 AM)
It's "necessarily" by the way, and if you notice my posts, I am narrowing it down to those living in the city. You dont see much of rubbernecking at Felda estates because there arent much of a traffic there to begin with , and there isnt a problem of traffic if you rubberneck there because the road is empty. What I was observing with what happened to PM is that, nobody cared. Do people give chase? Or at least shout out to the people ahead of the fleeing perp to stop the him from escaping? Nope! Which comes back to the point, WHY nobody cared. Because there are no benefit to them TO CARE. "What's it to me if I stop the guy from escaping and retrieving your stolen item back? Do I get a reward?" That is the FIRST thing that comes to mind, I dare bet my balls to that! I've seen right before my eyes, a mugging thief gets manhandles and double-teamed as trying to escape with a purse of a middle-age old lady from a tram in Melbourne, and I've seen patrons of a movie cinema in Sydney lining up for tickets speaking up against those attempting to line-cut up ahead to get to the back of the bloody line, which shames the potential perp from doing so, and justice is served and prevailed. Now I'm not saying these examples means that Australians are an exemplary lot, but with more and more of these examples you see happening, it restores your faith in humanity and prevailing justice.
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Sure, I agree, it's the same all over the world as how it is in Malaysia, but what is different with what I observed in other places compared to Malaysia is the willingness to speak up against the injustice, rather than skulking in the corner even though deep down it is wrong to just let the injustice happen. LRT, a "conveniently" sleeping ignorant taking up seats for the elderly for example. Or people cutting queues at supermarkets or taxi lines. The thing is, Malaysians tend to "let things slide" more likely than "everywhere else around the world" because Malaysians have been brought up with this thing called "save face" or "jaga air muka", unlike the more forward-minded folks "everywhere else around the world". To compound the issue further, to the typical Malaysian, as long as it does not encroach into his rewards, or does not trouble him so, he or she does not feel bothered or compelled to act, because of the "tidak apa" attitude and "save face" thing again. It is built into the very fibre of the Malaysian to not speak up or "making ripple on a calm pond" of a situation, so to speak, and because of that, the perp knows that he can get away with it.
Why I am adamant of this? Because I have seen this happening time and time again, and it had not changed before in the 1980s, and it has not even changed now. People still rubberneck when accidents happens infront of them then, and it is still the same now. There were never seats offered to the elderly or the pregnant during the days of Bas Mini Wilayah(BMW) days(and those who are old enough to remember these terror on the street, knows how critical it is for these "orang kurang upaya" to be seated instead of swaying around standing!) and guess what? Replace that Bas Mini Wilayah with the current RapidKL, it is still the same attitude. People still rush like animals for the seats, and so forth. The only difference here is we've moved away from the cramp confines of a BMW to the more spacious RapidKL bus, but the attitude and behaviour of these patrons of the bus does not "modernize" with the modernization of these buses. Still raucous and selfish as before. The same *******-like behaviour you see on the road 20 years ago, is happening again now, the only difference is the car has changed from the ol' Datsun 130Y to the Prius, but the drivers inside these vehicles are as an ******* as they were 20 years ago, when they are now.
I've said this before about how I loathed the mainland Chinese in China for their barbarian-like behaviour while living in a sprawling metropolis city-like setting in Shanghai and Beijing, and I've observed this as being due to the overly rapid growth of development around them that they are "forced" to leap forward and live in these city-like settings, but aren't given enough time or exposure on how city-living is, or the etiquette of city-living is. Hence you see the barbaric- and kampung-like mentality there, but under a city-like setting. The same thing, although at a relatively smaller degree, is happening in KL. We live in KL for 20,30 odd years but the city has changed, more amenities, more modern facilities, but the attitude and behaviour, the city-living etiquette did not come together with these modernization. People still dont flush while using public toilets, rubbernecking in accidents, selfishness in giving up seats in public transports, line-cutting in post office or supermarkets. These things are happening because Malaysians TOLERATE it, and let it happened, and not have the moral and civic duty and obligation to speak up against it, and the injustice happening before their eyes, because to "save face" and the reluctants to speak up. The most I see people do is look at each other and hoping that someone else besides them will say something, and most of the time, everyone kept quiet. Try this in Australia for example, see the tongue lashing you'll get if you do those things.
My point here is, Malaysians have not grown hand in hand together with the amenities and modernization of their habitat and grown in parallel with for when it comes to etiquette and behaviours that most of the time, are plain common sense. It is like building a sprawlingly ultra-modern city and displacing the barbaric tribes that lives during the Genghis Khan days into this city.
And even shorter version of all this: Modern city, same old pricks/mentality.
This post has been edited by stringfellow: Sep 12 2009, 05:19 PM