for HD1080 mean can use play HDMI video using HDMI player ?
other than that wats the different ?
wil it be a huge diffrent if watching astro ? using HDMI or NO HMDI will make different ?

for viewing full HD 1080 content etc PS3, BD
astro is not HD so u cannot use HDMI

To Fully enjoy your Full HD TV, use only Full HD devices like PS3 (for Full HD games & BD movies) or BD player (BD movies).

But that only is not enough, your source that you're playing must be in Full HD as well (HD Ready is enough actually)

In order to play the HD source, HDMI cable must be connected as HDMI brings lossless/uncompressed HD audio and video to your receiver and TV.

Astro is not a Full HD source. the quality is only DVD standard (worst), you can't see any HDMI or any digital output on the Astro decoder showing how outdated Astro is.

So, for Astro, CRT is still a better choice, HD TV won't do any good, but CRT is an old technology, (considering many people are more into HD nowadays) you wouldn't want to stuck with a nearly 90 year old technology don't you?

wat is BD ?

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Added on September 4, 2009, 6:42 amblu ray ? so if i wanna watch blu ray format ..
i need a bluray player and the blu ray file ?
blu ray file in wat format(such as .avi)? can it downloaded from internet ?

This post has been edited by sheahann: Sep 4 2009, 06:42 AM

If you have a Blu-Ray player of course you need a Blu-Ray discs. If you're talking about format, maybe you meant Blu-Ray rip. The most common files for Blu-Ray rip is .MKV.

erm..bd means bluray disk..
if watch astro on full hd unit, its become worst....correct me if im wrong...
y, u want to buy new plasma/lcd?u can study other thread..hehe

Bluray is a disc...
yes you can download HD movies thru the net.. but the SQ got no DTS HD or Dolby HD...

BD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

1080p:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

Bluray File:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_container_formats
Most of the time the popular word is MKV, thats the only word you need to know
MKV has different qualities depending on how it is 'processed'
2 popular quality is 720p (~4gb), 1080p (~8gb).

To download these files, you simply cannot use the normal way of download..it will take weeks.
You need to subscribe to premium servers or paid torrents for very high speeds....dun worry its not much.

But if you want to know how it is converted from BD to m2ts to MKV...Its a long story reserved for those who are interested in BD ripping.
There are also other more pure formats like ts, VC1 etc thats bigger file and need more advance media players to play.

the pay is not high to download ?
roughly how much ? and can PM me the site ?

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Added on September 4, 2009, 2:49 pmand i have seen ppl using some MEDIA PLAYER ..
looks like Harddisk .. just copy movie(.rmvb,.avi and others) to it and play on LCD ...

does it support blu ray ? roughly how much the price ? if without Bluray support then how much ?

what's a good player and affordable price to intro me ?
without .MKV , what is the nicest video fomat available out there ?

This post has been edited by sheahann: Sep 4 2009, 02:49 PM

Tumpang thread

Whats the difference between a RM150 BD PQ and a ripped BD .mkv PQ ?

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Added on September 4, 2009, 3:42 pmI dl movies from few china based website which offer very high definition (1024 around 1.2GB per file) rmvb format movies which i think its not bad PQ (for me)...

This post has been edited by Damonzero: Sep 4 2009, 03:42 PM

but i want .mkv 1020p wor .....

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Added on September 4, 2009, 4:30 pm@

wanna watch in good bluray .. then the LCD must support HMDI ?
if no use hmdi cannot play ?

This post has been edited by sheahann: Sep 4 2009, 04:30 PM

The most popular high speed servers is rapidshare, megaupload, netload and paid torrents...for a normal 1mb streamyx line, you can get as fast as 180Kb/s depending on situations.
Thats as easy 1 1080p movie (abt 10GB) per 1 day + some extras.

It comes in a range of RM25~40 for a month. Paid torrents server are mostly depends on how big space you wanna get.

As for media player, there are many now out there that can play FHD stuff. From High end Dvico brand, midrange Popcornhour brand, to budget players like WDTV, A.C.Ryan Playon!HD, Xtreamer, sarotech, etc.
For more info on this, please checkout Lowyat forums and google them.


Regarding China brands, well, I wouldn't buy them unless the support of hardware and firmware is good. Most MediaPlayers need firmware upgrades to get the best of the current movies. So getting one without this will be disappointing to you. Will explain later if you are interested.

Regarding video formats...as I said...'MKV' is all you need to know in the beginning,


The current ultimate is Bluray Disc...it comes with a lot of features like 'the making of', 'deleted scenes', "interview with actors/directors", sometimes half a dozen languages are included, mini movies...etc
BDripped is mostly the movie itself stripped of its "bonus packages". The 50GB movie is also compressed to 10 or 4 GB MKV sizes....as I said previously, there are also 'untouched' 1 to 1 stuff like m2ts that 'is' the same quality as a Bluray Disc. But not many ppl want it as not many players can play it such stuff as they are very high bit rates.

Pictures of FHD are not suppose to be 'not bad'. They are suppose to be the 'Best'. 'Very high definition' is subjective.


'HDMI' easy for you to understand is just a connection. This HDMI thing is the current best for PQ as the system can transfer high quality image and sound as well.
Remember the old day when we were using yellow RCA, then the S-Video or Component cable?...now the current king is HDMI.

To get the best images, yes, you need the media player and LCD to have HDMI......no point getting HD stuff but use Yellow RCA cable.
I will not go technical on this as you will be more confuse.
If you wanna know more abt HDMI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Definiti...media_Interface

This post has been edited by azbro: Sep 4 2009, 05:15 PM

wow .. u really helped much ...
btw got any idea of LCD 32inch model can intro ? cheaper the better but wanna got HDMI to play bluray stuff ...
then i need a bluray media player rite ? the player like the 1 u shown above is to copy .MKV file to the player and play in on LCD rite ? the player doesnt have a blu-ray ROM that can put bluray disc inside rite ??

so lets say i bought the LCD and the player .. connect using HDMI ..
then i download .mkv 1020p movie and drag the file into the player .. and play it on LCD ..
that mean i already watching FHD blu ray movie? just like what we got watching thru bluray disc ?

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Added on September 4, 2009, 6:09 pmand then come to sound system ..
can i use probably a 5.1 pc speaker and connect it to LCD via Astro decoder ?
and when i wanna use the WDTV then i just plug back the connector to it ?

can it be done ?
lets say WDTV support HDMI .. HDMI already got sound rite ? then can a PC speaker plug into WDTV and i get a 5.1 surround ( then the LCD speaker is still wokring or wat ?) thx

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Added on September 4, 2009, 6:24 pmWDTV

Note:

- An audio receiver is required for surround sound output. AAC/Dolby Digital decodes in 2 channel output only

what does it mean an audio receiver is required for surround .. if i use 5.1 pc speaker can get surround o not ?

This post has been edited by sheahann: Sep 4 2009, 06:24 PM

1. NEVER EVER buy 32inch...unless you wanna use it for your bedroom or PC playing games. Its small and totally no visual impact at all.
I even doubt that a FHD 32inch has any difference with a HD one...wanna get for movies...PLASMA for the win.
Check out VIERA TH-P42S10K...its goes for RM3000++.....thats cheap bro considered 2 years back a similar speced cost RM10K.

2. 1080p mkv is in a class by itself....do not compare it to its master 'The Bluray Disc'
Currently Bluray gives the best PQ...the ultimate now.
Viewing mkv files comes close to Bluray...but then again, you will not get the bonus stuff Bluray has to offer.
Believe me, for peasants like us, mkv is the next best thing.

Nowadays, some players (like a AC Ryan) can even decodes Bluray Iso as well...now...thats great.

3.Most 1080p files (or even 720p) comes with either Dolby Digital or DTS.
To enjoy the surround sound, connect the WDTV to an amp that has a optical in and can decode DD and DTS...you can check out the amps if its able to decode from the logo on it.
As for the connection, do check it out first before getting a media player. Not all amp has optical connections...some uses Coaxial Digital instead

WDTV can decode Dolby digital and send it out in stereo mode using the red and white cables...but if you want surround, you need an amp to do it using optical connections.
See the picture of the Xtreamer above post...there is a Red and white connections that has been decoded by the media player..it is stereo...but for the surround, there is the Digital Audio Optical
Most media player only decodes DD to stereo....if its DTS, then its pass thru the optical cable to be connected to an amp.....its all abt Licensing issues...DTS charges a hefty price for it

Yes HDMI has sound, and you can plug the WDTV to an amp as well...but take note, you will be getting sound from two sources now, its best to lower one of them.
As for me, I found out that my amp decodes DD is a bit slow, but sound on on the LCD is just right....so I tune down the LCD sound a bit to mix with the speakers from the amp.
You really wanna get the WDTV?...I think the ACRYAN is better...its available end of this month at abt RM600++.
Take note..you need HDD as well

Astro decoder?...err..I dun get what you mean...
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This post has been edited by azbro: Sep 4 2009, 08:17 PM

wow .. good reply ..

now .. lets say i got no choice and have to use 32inch LCD ...
does the LCD FullHD and normal LCD got big impact interm of quality ?

then .. i wanna save on home theatre ..
can i use the 5.1channel Logitech X-540 speaker and get an output of sound ?
from the LCD or WDTV ? thx

For 32inch I really dun recommend any...but do tell us what model you want to get?...sure 32inch?...its so yesterday...

If you want to connect it Astro...check you decoder first...whats the best Video output connector it has?...most of the time is the S-Video...so make sure when you buy the LCD it has a S-Video in as well.
Or else you will be left with those nasty Yellow RCA cable.

FYI, other than Bluray Players, Media Player most of the members also use HTPC....so if your Computer at home is up to it, you can use it too and save the money for a graphic card that has HDMI ouput.

I'm not sure of the X540, but as I say, to enjoy DD and DTS, you need to use the optical cables and the amp must be able to decode DD and DTS.
Does the X540 have DTS and Dolby Digital Logo?...Does it have an optical in for audio?

Make you check all the specs of what you need before buying anything....doing a little homework, googling and asking in forums and save you a lot of money and misery.
Frankly speaking specs are not everything, you need to check the background of it as well...example..Philips amps and Home theater has DTS logo, but in actual, doesn't play it very well

Firstly, you should consider getting 37inch instead of 32inch (unless the problem is space). Price difference is minimal and 37inch is much nicer to watch than 32inch.

When you see in shops, 32inch looks okay since the whole place is filled with TVs; your sense of size won't work well in a shop. Likewise, 42inch TVs look rather small in shops, but look massive in a house (especially if its your first TV of that size).

If you want surround, you might want to consider buying those cheaper 5.1 units. Using with Logitech isn't impossible, but the sound quality falls a little flat. IINM, Sony and Philips have cheap HT that don't need much space (Philips has an Rm600 one and Sony has an Rm800 one).

Erm,dont get wrong with HDMI,it's an interface of video signal.High Definition is a format for video up to 720p,1080P/i(Progressive and Interlaced) has a 1920x1080 resolutions,thats why dubbed as 1080P.Practically,no different watching with Astro,as it's not HD content.

This post has been edited by minghao: Sep 4 2009, 10:17 PM

azbro - Many thanks for the essential education on HD & HD files for a noobie like me.
Can PM me your contact for high speed servers subscription that comes in a range of RM25~40 for a month.


Too bad my bedroom don't have space for a 42", nevertheless Samsung LA32B650 is just right for the tight bedroom space. Some more it plays many files without media player or pc. Just plug in the HDD or thumbdrive into the USB port. No need so many wires or many remote controllers. It is not even hook up to any device. No DVD/Bluray player, no asstro cable, no any cable/wires except the LCD power cord!
Next thing is to get that samsung wireless LAN adaptor to stream movies, music & pictures stored on the PC and access the internet.
Seriously guy, I hope to see more manufacturer especially Panasonic having all the above features.

Don't know coincidence or what, but my living room Sony CRT is having a bit of wash out. PLASMA TH-P42S10K looks mighty tempting. Now which media player to get or just get a BD player, and which budget 5.1 unit? So what's your recommendation for a HTiB?

This post has been edited by DarkNite: Sep 5 2009, 09:35 AM

Thanks too...I'm also interested in Samsungs Technology...just how much is the Samsung LA32B650?