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 May 17 2010, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(defdekz @ May 17 2010, 05:15 PM) im not a med student... but still i dont understand Your from Kota Kinabalu? then I'll put it this way...  "English ko teda urang faham, tunggang-tebalik semua susunan ayat. Daripada ko cakap BI, bagus ko cakap BM, barula org semua paham, kalau itu pun ndak boleh jgak, ndak la aku tau" - Sabah dialect how's that? |
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Jun 30 2010, 02:57 AM
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I'd like to make some price comparison of medical equipments of the following items in different countries:
1. Stethoscope 2. Sphygmomanometer (mercury) 3. Ophthalmoscope 4. Otoscope Let me start: Country: India 1. Stethoscope, Lifeline brand, Rs350 (RM25) - cheapest I've seen so far. 2. Sphygmomanometer, Dr.Morepen Brand, Rs850 (RM60) 3. Ophthalmoscope Pocketscope, Wellch-Allyn Brand, Rs6300 (Rm450) 4. Otoscope Pocketscope, Wellch-Allyn Brand, Rs5600 (Rm400) Lets see the variations in price of the above items in the country your studying in. If you want you can add more items other than the above for comparison (eg Book price, etc) ~~ This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jun 30 2010, 03:22 AM |
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Jul 25 2010, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jul 22 2010, 10:14 PM) i'm using littman classic SE II. around rm200. ...and I'm using a cheap RM25 Student Standard Stethoscope (Indian made), which, upon comparison with Littman Stethoscope not much of a difference (Littman is heavier though)...  |
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Jul 25 2010, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 25 2010, 01:36 PM) india (and increasingly china now) actually makes a lot of medical equipments.........which are reasonable in quality, but at the fraction of the price of 'branded' marques...... One can still get a full skeleton set, our local bookstore/medical equipment shop sells a full set human skeleton (real skeleton) for Rs15,000 (RM1000+).so a rm25 indian made stethoscope is fine......but you will not be able to get that in oz..... the other things you can get cheaply in india are books, medicine ('generic originals') and skeleton sets (at least in the old days!)...... |
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Jul 29 2010, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Jul 29 2010, 02:53 PM) how about the quality? Quality-wise, my cheap stet is acceptable for day to day use. Even if I lost it, it wouldn't affect me much.can u upload pic? Here is the manufacturer's website: http://www.lifelinemax.com/hmp.asp The price stated in the website is slightly higher compared to buying from a medical equipment shops. This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jul 29 2010, 11:31 PM |
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Aug 1 2010, 03:34 AM
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Jul 30 2010, 02:32 AM) from pic,it look pretty decent Aren't there any other brands for stets apart from Littman in Malaysia?probably on par or even better than littman but for a fraction of littman's price damn i should ask my friends in india to buy me one Well.. if you have friends studying in India... you can ask one of them to bring you a mercurial sphygmomanometer and suturing practice kit. Apart from the Lifeline brand, another very good brand is Dr.Morepen's brand. I'm using Dr.Morepen's mercurial BP set... very good and reliable~  http://drmorepen.in/indexnew.htm Added on August 1, 2010, 3:36 amAh... and this is MMA's (Malaysian Medical Association) magazine if anyone is interested in reading it: http://www.mma.org.my/Portals/0/pdf/MMA%20...%2004%20web.pdf This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Aug 1 2010, 03:36 AM |
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Aug 17 2010, 01:32 AM
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The following comments were taken from the link below,
From (source): http://mahaguru58.blogspot.com/2008/06/pus...ton-defies.html QUOTE Dr Amir Farid Isahak said... Assalamualaikum Mahaguru58, I am keen to join the investigation of the truthfulness of the psychic surgeries done at Pusat Perubatan Keraton. I am a gynecological surgeon, and even though I am not a general surgeon, I have done enough surgeries over 30 years to know what to look for. I have also been exposed to many "supernatural" phenomena and "psychic" healings and surgeries, some of which I have written in my column in The Star ("Art of Qi/Art of Healing" in SundayStar Fit4Life), so I can approach this matter with an open mind. My initial impression after viewing the videos is that the "surgeries" are fake because: 1) During the surgeries done on the abdomen, the abdominal wall layers are absent (skin, subcutaneous fat which is usually thick, rectus sheath/aponeurosis, etc). You have to know anatomy to understand this, that's why it is easy for non-medical people to be hoodwinked. 2)in the videos, We never get to see the incision being done, something crucial to know what is being cut open 3)in the video, Even "heart" surgery is done on the abdomen! 4)the "blood" always looks pale and artificial. If you have done surgery you will know what fresh blood looks like. I admit that his method may involve little bleeding, but somehow all that "blood" in the videos doesn't look like blood. 5) in the videos, I note that the drapes totally cover the operated area and there is no way to tell if the "surgery" is being done on something put on top of the patient's abdomen (under the drape) instead of him cutting open the patient's abdomen as we are made to believe. Therefore I am not surprised that there is no scar when the plaster was removed. I may have more comments to add later after viewing more videos. I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, not that I doubt the possibility of such surgery (with ALLAH's permission, anything is possible), but because what I see in the videos look fake (I may be wrong). Since there are reports of patients being cured as well as being conned by him (from your blog and comments on YouTube), I think it is important that we investigate this matter together. The videos may be genuine (no digital tricks), but the surgeries may be fake. It takes a surgeon to know if a surgery is real or not. Please arrange: 1) for me to interview and get the medical reports of patients planned for surgery by him 2)for me to watch the surgeries at close range, instead of just relying on videos 3)for me to get the tissues or whatever removed so I can send to the laboratory for verification. 4) we can also interview and get medical reports of his previous patients (medical reports to confirm that after surgery they were cured of their disease or tumour/growth/cancer). If he is not willing to abide by these conditions, then there is no way we can ascertain whether he is genuine or not. Since he has also been found guilty of cheating 15 years ago (although his appeal is pending), it is important that we are sure that we are not helping him cheat more people this way. On the other hand, if he is a genuine spiritual healer, then the people need to know that he can really help cure them of their health problems, since doctors still cannot cure many diseases. I await your response. Selamat berpuasa. Dr Amir Farid Isahak Monday, 16 August, 2010 QUOTE MAHAGURU58 said... Wa'alaikumsalam Dr. Amir. Thank you for sending in your comments as well on this subject matter. I more than welcome medical doctors like your dear self to co-investigate this serious issue. Just like everyone else, I too am quite concerned and wish to get to the bottom of this 'miracle healing'. I am quite busy with my work at the moment. I will contact Prof. Dato Dr Raden Johari Mansor after Aidil Fitri and try to get an appointment with him where I'd like you and probably this Cybersetan to be present. Other surgeons who would like to be present can contact me and give me their details. Lets do it after Raya, Insya Allah. Any of you medical students/Doctors/Surgeons currently present in Malaysia would like to join? Good Exposure for you guys~ (To Limeuu; Care to join?) *P/S: For those who didn't get what the above post is for, do click my signature below and read through it. (Here is an additional link of interest: http://forum.malaysianmedicine.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2503) |
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Aug 20 2010, 03:11 AM
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 17 2010, 09:16 AM) to make it more credible and proper, conduct it in a proper hospital setting. Not some chicken shed somewhere. We shall see if this JOHARI MANSOR is even willing to meet with actual doctors/surgeons... A fraudster such as him will go down. |
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Sep 25 2010, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 25 2010, 10:07 PM) it's a graduate entry programme, so i think it will not be very popular.......msians want to get into med school as early as possible......from spm.....from pmr if possible.........not spend 1-2 years in pre-u and another 3-4 years in a first degree......... there will be market for such program, many science graduates may be interested in that~here is an example: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=34991316 Consider these: - a US med program, 4 years. - No need to compete with A-Levels/STPM students since its a graduate entry only - ...and its in Malaysia.. This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Sep 25 2010, 11:48 PM |
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Sep 26 2010, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE Sunday September 26, 2010 Johns Hopkins University to set up medical school and hospital in Malaysia By WONG CHUN WAI newsdesk@thestar.com.my NEW YORK: The world-renowned teaching and research medical institution Johns Hopkins University will be setting up a medical school and hospital in Malaysia. Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said a site at Serdang in Selangor had been picked to set up the facilities, which would become a medical research hub for the region. The medical school, he said, would offer a four-year programme, adding that it would be a private initiative between Malaysian and American investors. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « .http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6678&sec=nation ... and now we are officially going to have a graduate entry medical program in Malaysia~ They could have picked Sarawak or Sabah as the site for the Med School. There are too many med schools already in the Peninsular (in fact all of them are in the peninsular, except UMS and Unimas), besides, there are more interesting medical cases in Sabah/Sarawak. This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Sep 26 2010, 10:17 AM |
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Sep 26 2010, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 26 2010, 07:22 PM) Are there many government sponsored postgrad scholarships around? well, if it's affiliated with the government, then yeah, ethnicity will be an issue, again. Is this the first uni offering postgrad med in msia? Its graduate entry medical program (4 years MD program) not post graduate - it will create confusion.Australia and UK have somewhat 'tiru' such program from US system. Meant for more mature students. This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Sep 26 2010, 07:29 PM |
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Sep 26 2010, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 26 2010, 07:30 PM) What's the possibility for a doc who has graduated from a local private uni to get to do their post graduate in this John Hopkins? Again.. its a GRADUATE ENTRY MEDICAL PROGRAM - meaning that it is offering medical degree to graduates @ 4-years. (not for STPM/A-Levels/Matrik/Diploma/Foundation - but for Degree Holders)Regarding POST-GRADUATE (which is different), usually medical graduates in US goes into residency program (eg specialization) after their MD (Basic Medical Degree) and then get their Board certification in their respective specialization. I don't think we have any "Boards" for anything in Malaysia yet unlike US. This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Sep 26 2010, 07:37 PM |
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Sep 26 2010, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 26 2010, 08:07 PM) What kind of degree holders are able to apply for this GRADUATE ENTRY MEDICAL PROGRAM? Here is the main source for John Hopkins Medical program:http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/som/admissi...quirements.html As with most US Medical program, applicants must have completed a Bachelors Degree program prior to even being considered for the MD program. Regarding the specifics of what kind of Bachelors degree, that is up to the Medical school to decide. Here some clarifications on how it works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_Entry_Program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_schoo...e_United_States GRADUATE ENTRY MEDICAL PROGRAM is not the same with POST-GRADUATE MEDICAL PROGRAM. Added on September 26, 2010, 8:54 pm On another note, I recalled what Limeuu stated 2 years ago: QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 1 2008, 12:25 AM) these info is just as it is, for info, so people know what's happening elsewhere in the world...... Guess he was wrong eh? how about it limeuu? medical program evolves no? even in Malaysia? graduate med school is NOT gonna happen in msia, so let's move on......  This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Sep 26 2010, 08:59 PM |
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Sep 28 2010, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 26 2010, 10:28 PM) ....these are all related to foreign med schools, to comply with their graduate entry system.......... Yes, we shall see which homegrown IPTS will start their very own Graduate Entry Medicine program~let's see if a home grown msian med school will ever take this pathway........ Lets wait and see~ |
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Oct 23 2010, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(jylne @ Oct 21 2010, 04:24 PM) hey all, Sem 7? so, you are in Melaka now? or in Manipal?I'm currently doing mbbs in MMMC, sem 7. nice to meet you all. Anyway, welcome to this sub-forum. |
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Oct 23 2010, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(jylne @ Oct 23 2010, 09:25 AM) Melaka now~ =) Then you might be interested in this: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry32124124LYN is kinda informative with you guys here. |
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Nov 9 2010, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 17 2010, 08:28 AM) would be an eye opening experience for some....... but no, i would not bother to 'investigate' these claims..... i know they are fake......... Here is something interesting: QUOTE From Utusan Malaysia: Pusat Rawatan Keraton hadapi tuduhan JOHOR BAHRU 7 Okt. - Pemilik Pusat Rawatan Keraton yang melakukan rawatan 'pembedahan' secara tradisional atau batin didakwa di Mahkamah Sesyen di sini hari ini atas tuduhan menjalankan operasi pusat jagaan kesihatan swasta tanpa lesen, Jun lalu. Johari Mansor, 52, dan Rusnani Rahaman, 49, bagaimanapun mengaku tidak bersalah sebaik sahaja pertuduhan tersebut dibacakan di hadapan Hakim Norazlan Ahmad. Mengikut kertas pertuduhan, mereka didakwa menjalankan operasi pusat jagaan ambulatori swasta tanpa lesen mengikut perenggan 3© Akta Kemudahan dan Perkhidmatan Jagaan Kesihatan Swasta 1998. Kesalahan itu didakwa dilakukan di No. 34, Jalan Padi Emas 32, Bandar Baru Uda di sini kira-kira pukul 6.30 petang, 9 Jun lalu. Dakwaan terhadap mereka dibuat mengikut Subseksyen 5(1) Akta Kemudahan dan Perkhidmatan Jagaan Kesihatan Swasta 1998 (Akta 586) dan boleh dihukum mengikut Subseksyen 5(1)(b)(i) akta sama. Jika sabit kesalahan, pusat rawatan berkenaan boleh didenda maksimum RM500,000 dan pemiliknya boleh didenda tidak melebihi RM300,000 atau penjara tidak lebih enam tahun atau kedua-duanya. Norazlan menetapkan 29 November ini untuk perbicaraan kes tersebut. Pendakwaan dikemukakan oleh Timbalan Pendakwa Raya, Amira Suriati Zainal manakala tertuduh diwakili peguam bela, Zamri Idrus. Sementara itu, Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan, Tan Sri Dr. Mohd. Ismail Merican dalam satu kenyataan di sini hari ini berkata, pusat rawatan berkenaan diserbu pihak kementerian pada 6 Jun lalu kerana didakwa melakukan rawatan 'pembedahan' secara tradisional atau batin. Beliau berkata, hasil serbuan yang dijalankan Unit Kawalan Amalan Perubatan Swasta (UKAPS) Johor dan Selangor, pihaknya merampas beberapa perkakas dan peralatan yang dipercayai digunakan dalam pembedahan batin tersebut. Mohd. Ismail mengingatkan semua pusat rawatan swasta yang menawarkan rawatan perubatan supaya mendapatkan lesen daripada Kementerian Kesihatan sebelum memulakan operasi seperti yang diperuntukkan di bawah akta tersebut. http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...ah&pg=ma_04.htm I missed this important news~ Very Interesting~ ...and also and update here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=37445249 This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Nov 9 2010, 06:51 AM |
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Nov 27 2010, 08:26 PM
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Limeuu, come see this blog. It is an example or rather an evidence that it is bad for patients to ignore doctors' advice.
Basically here is the story: The female patient is a teacher by occupation, had been diagnosed with kidney cancer on her left kidney about 1 year ago. She was scheduled to be operated to remove the malignancy in a govt. hospital, but due to the influence and 'advice' by friends and family members - she opted to have the "scarless and painless surgery" done by JOHARI MANSOR in PUSAT RAWATAN KERATON instead. I came across her uploaded "surgery" video in Youtube around september 2009 and commented about the fraud/deceit of such "surgery" to her. She condemned me instead for doing so. (see below for her comments - click spoilers) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Original video: She was apparently healthy for awhile (psychological factor? placebo effect? who knows) but less than 1 year after the apparently "miraculous surgery" she was again re-admitted into the hospital because of her "apparently removed tumour" was still there and now has become even worse than before. She had a REAL operation this time - but even then, according the her doctors - her future is uncertain. I have arranged the blog entries in chronological order for all of you medical students and doctors to read and learn something out of this: http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...pital-lagi.html (Tuesday, August 11, 2009) http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...rt-2episod.html (Monday, August 17, 2009) http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/08...t-3episode.html (Friday, August 21, 2009) and the "miracle surgery": http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2009/09...kena-bedah.html (Sunday, September 13, 2009) and NOW: http://sweetalia-blog.blogspot.com/2010/08...at-sepital.html (Tuesday, August 10, 2010) For all future doctors here - learn from this~ For more information, click my signature below (Pusat rawatan Keraton scam). Do comment and give opinion if you like. This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Nov 27 2010, 10:15 PM |
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Nov 28 2010, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(firdzee @ Nov 28 2010, 09:31 AM) anyone here from MAHSA physio ? need help The ones hanging around in this thread are mostly medical students/medical doctors... |
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Nov 28 2010, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(firdzee @ Nov 28 2010, 11:14 AM) are you one of them ? duhh....by the way, use the search function if you want to find threads related to physiotherapy. |
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