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post Sep 24 2009, 04:06 PM

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A lot has been said about Cole's strike rate. But that's not too bad huh? Berbatov definitely should do better. Just need a few goals to kick start his season. Been playing well, just without the goals.
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He used that team most of last season which went all the way. Why not?
Have to remember last night we had to play with 10 men for 70mins.
Kuszczak
Gary-Wes-Evans-Fabio
Nani-Carrick-Gibson-Welbeck
Macheda-Owen

Those are first teamers almost, except for Kuszczak. Macheda was a hero last season, Gibson was solid last season, Welbeck showed again he can score goals, and Fabio is rated higher than Rafael.
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post Sep 24 2009, 05:33 PM

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Only post some fact over in their thread and be done with it. No point arguing with them they would never back down.
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post Sep 24 2009, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 24 2009, 05:35 PM)
just felt that yesterday's performance isnt as good ma...
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That's what you get when you completely change the lineup. Any team would struggle in their first few games. Besides we had to play with 10 men most of the time in that game. Yet we were the better side. And there's no point in playing our best 11 for this cup game, and what better way to blood our youngsters and give the backups/squad players game time on the pitch.
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post Sep 24 2009, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 24 2009, 07:05 PM)
rio's back to back injury is indeed worrying
we might have jonny who is more than capable to step up

but that left us with no other choice, except wes can stay fit all the time
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Wonder if Cathcart is good enough. He certainly looked fairly solid whenever he was called upon. I think we should be ok with Vida-Evans, and having O'Shea and Wes as covers. Fabio, Rafael, Gary,De Laet can cover the full back spots.
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post Sep 24 2009, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(areankim @ Sep 24 2009, 08:16 PM)
guys anyone know when astro will replay the manchester derby show?

sob sob...
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I'm not sure when they would show the replay, but a guy here posted a 20mins highlights of the game some pages back.
http://www.footytube.com/video/manchester-...ster-city-23352

If you have flashgot add on on firefox, you can download the .flv version instead of just watching it on the browser.
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post Sep 24 2009, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 24 2009, 09:45 PM)
The video has been removed la bro.

LOL, as i expected, there is a new topic about controversies and stuff after United Citeh games doh.gif
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I'm uploading it right now to 4shared.com
Any other place to upload that's doesn't have restricted access like rapidshare does(only 10 free users able to download if upload there)?


Added on September 24, 2009, 9:58 pm81mb.. aiya. Gonna be a long wait and hopefully streamyx didn't do anything funny in that period.

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Thanks for those. Good to know only have to upload it to one place and have plenty of links.


Added on September 24, 2009, 10:32 pmhttp://www.4shared.com/file/135085027/b4d5d0c5/Manchester_United_vs_Manchester_City_Video_Highlights__Interviews__20th_Sep_09_.html

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post Sep 25 2009, 01:08 AM

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They're still friends. Kinda pity looking at Tevez. Must have hurt him having that kind of reaction when he was expecting a good reception. If he didn't join City/Liverpool and didn't talk so much crap, he would have been welcomed back with open arms. Almost everyone loved him.
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http://sportgfx.com/english-football-pictu...otos-21/index54

Try there. Lots of ManUtd pictures after every game.

And go through this..
http://www.redcafe.net/f7/classic-photos-166011/index24.html

Lots of great pictures there, minus the colours except for the colour of the jersey in most.
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post Sep 25 2009, 02:49 PM

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Away game huh? Won't be easy. Hope if Owen is on the bench, we won't have to use him in the game because it would mean we would be desperate to score and I don't think I can last another game already resigned to losing only for us to snatch it at the death. Comfortable win please.
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There's only one Keano
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With an insatiable appetite for success and an aversion to failure bordering on the obsessive, Roy Keane cut a dominant figure in central midfield for Manchester United during the most successful period in the club's history.

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The skipper was a hard, but fair, player.

Perhaps the last true box-to-box midfielder to grace England's top flight, he possessed an ability to strike fear into opponents unlike any other and played with a passion and urgency that inspired team-mates around him to raise their performance levels.

The Irishman's story is a trophy-laden journey of misadventure, beginning at Cobh Ramblers in his native Cork and finishing with boyhood heroes Celtic. Keane's was a career that always courted controversy as well as championship medals.

After being handed his big break in England at Nottingham Forest by the legendary Brian Clough, Keane impressed Sir Alex Ferguson enough for the Manchester United boss to snap him up for £3.7 million in 1993 for a then British transfer record. Ferguson viewed the Irishman as the ideal long-term replacement for Bryan Robson and Keane quickly formed an influential midfield partnership with Paul Ince, before spending almost ten years providing the perfect defensive foil for the attacking flair of Paul Scholes.

Keane was a tough tackler and an exceptional ball winner, rarely leaving an opponent unscathed from a 50-50 challenge. But aside from his ankle-biting reputation, he was also a master of possession. In a United side renowned for passing its way through the opposition, most attacks started with the ball at the feet of the Irishman, conducting the tempo and dictating the rhythm of all United's play.

Aggression and determination were two characteristics Keane possessed in abundance and his 88 yellow cards and 13 dismissals for United tell the story of a man whose passion often boiled over into rage. He had confrontations with most of the Premier League's glitterati, most notably Alan Shearer and Patrick Vieira, and a 2001 clash with Alf-Inge Haaland provided perhaps the biggest controversy of his career.

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After four years of waiting, he took his revenge on Haaland

In 1997, a tackle from Haaland had ruptured Keane's cruciate ligament, though at the time the Norwegian accused him of overplaying the injury. Fast forward four years and Keane was out for revenge. In the 2001 Manchester derby the Irishman flew in with a reckless challenge over the top of Haaland's knee, leaving the Norwegian with an injury that he claims eventually caused his retirement.

Keane was shown a straight red but a year later it was revealed in his autobiography that he had deliberately set out to injure Haaland in an act of revenge. For what was essentially pre-meditated assault and for bringing the game into disrepute, Keane was banned for five games and fined £150,000.

Keane also grabbed the headlines for the wrong reasons when, at a training camp with Ireland for the 2002 World Cup, he walked out after a blazing row with Mick McCarthy regarding the lack of organisation at the camp. Keane was branded a "coward" for walking away, but this was another demonstration of the single mindedness of a passionate individual trying to ensure his team had the best possible chance of success.

The Irishman's finest performance in the red of United came on a balmy night in Turin in 1999. At 2-0 down inside ten minutes of the Champions League semi-final second leg against Juventus, it appeared another season of European underachievement awaited United. Step forward Roy Maurice Keane.

Despite receiving a booking that ensured he would be absent from an unlikely final berth, the captain rolled up his sleeves and produced a stirring performance that Sir Alex Ferguson later described as the "most emphatic display of selflessness" he had seen on a football pitch. Keane scored the opening goal and covered every blade of grass as United fought back to win 3-2 and book a place in the Champions League final.

Keane watched the dramatic 2-1 victory over Bayern Munich in the Nou Camp final from the stands, celebrating with his team-mates. But he later revealed: "Although I was putting a brave face on it, this was just about the worst experience I'd had in football."

Keane's ambition did not end with the 1999 Treble victory, as he led United to three consecutive Premier League titles, and scooped his greatest individual accolade, the PFA Player of the Year award for the 1999-00 season,

Keane was part of a rebuilding of United after Arsenal and Chelsea beat them to the Premier League crown in successive seasons, but there was always an underlying feeling that he did not have the same belief in his team-mates. After injury and outspoken comments saw him fall out of favour with Sir Alex Ferguson, Keane joined boyhood heroes Celtic; playing out a successful final season in which he lifted the Scottish Premier League before hanging up his boots for the final time in 2006.

A move into management seemed a natural step for Keane with Ferguson and pundits alike predicting more success; surely his ability to inspire and lift his team-mates and unrelenting desire to win were qualities that would naturally transfer from the pitch to the dugout?

Certainly, Keane's first foray into management in 2006 with Sunderland suggested that he could prove himself at an elite level. He transformed the Wearsiders from bottom-of-the-Championship relegation fodder to Premier League competitors in just ten months.

A comfortable but unspectacular first season in the top flight followed, however Keane was given money to spend and most believed Sunderland could finish respectably once more. But he failed to see eye-to-eye with Sunderland's new owners and resigned to the similar cries of "quitter" that had resounded around him after walking out on McCarthy in 2002.

Keane bowed out of football for nine months, assessing his options before stepping back into Championship management with Ipswich Town. He has thus far failed to recreate the immediate success he enjoyed at the Stadium of Light, with his man-management skills increasingly called into question.

But whatever the Irishman's future in management holds, he can look back on a glittering playing career. Though he won few friends for his aggression and fiery temperament, you get the feeling that with a trophy cabinet bulging with championship medals and personal accolades, Keano's not too bothered what they think.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...england&cc=4716
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Cari Maria Ozawa tanya. Dia mesti tau. Siap ada extra lagi. haha

Stream lah. Depa punya internet lajuuu.
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I miss those days. We looked great huh?

Here's hoping this season will be full of dramas in our favour.
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post Sep 25 2009, 04:23 PM

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It will be a test, for whoever starts in goal. Foster need to do well if he is to improve his reputation among the fans. Those balls will be flying into the box constantly.
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If Fletcher took that two chances he had in the first few games, he would be 2nd on our scorer list. Oh well, can't have everything.


Added on September 25, 2009, 5:21 pmFound this on other forum..
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FRANK LAMPARD

CODE
2002/03 Statistics
TEAM    Competition    GS    SB    G    A    SH    SG    FC    FS    YC    RC
Chelsea    Premier League    37    1    6    2    63    42    0    0    3    0
Chelsea    English FA Cup    5    0    1    0    1    1    0    0    0    0
England    International Friendly    1    2    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
Chelsea    UEFA Cup    1    1    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
Chelsea    English Carling Cup    3    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
2002/03 Season Totals    47    4    8    2    64    43    0    0    3    0

2001/02 Statistics
TEAM    Competition    GS    SB    G    A    SH    SG    FC    FS    YC    RC
Chelsea    English Carling Cup    4    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
Chelsea    UEFA Cup    4    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
Chelsea    English FA Cup    7    1    1    0    0    0    0    0    2    0
Chelsea    Premier League    27    3    5    0    0    0    0    0    2    1

DARREN FLETCHER
CODE
008/09 Statistics
TEAM    Competition    GS    SB    G    A    SH    SG    FC    FS    YC    RC
Scotland    World Cup Qualifying - UEFA    5    0    0    0    1    0    5    9    0    0
Scotland    European Championship Qualifying    9    0    1    1    0    0    18    8    4    0
Scotland    International Friendly    3    0    0    0    0    0    0    3    0    0
Manchester United    English FA Community Shield    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
Manchester United    English Carling Cup    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    0
Manchester United    English FA Cup    2    1    0    1    2    2    1    3    0    0
Manchester United    FIFA Club World Cup    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
Manchester United    UEFA Super Cup    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
Manchester United    Premier League    25    1    3    0    26    6    27    16    4    0
Manchester United    UEFA Champions League    8    0    0    0    7    1    18    10    1    1
2008/09 Season Totals    54    4    4    2    36    9    69    49    10    1


2007/08 Statistics
TEAM    Competition    GS    SB    G    A    SH    SG    FC    FS    YC    RC
Manchester United    UEFA Champions League    5    1    0    0    2    1    9    2    1    0
Scotland    International Friendly    2    0    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0
Manchester United    English FA Cup    1    0    2    0    2    2    4    2    1    0
Manchester United    Premier League    5    11    0    0    4    1    8    10    1    0
2007/08 Season Totals    13    12    2    1    8    4    21    14    3    0

Comparing Lampard at 23, 24 and Darren at 23, 24 years old.

Lampard: 7 goals, 8 goals 2 assists
Fletcher: 2 goals 1 assist, 4 goals 2 assists

They played vastly different number of games though. I don't want to spend too much time on statistics, but in those years when Fletcher played 25 games he scored 3 goals. Lampard played 27 games and scored 5 goals.



He may never score as much as Lampard, but it's not that far off.



Added on September 25, 2009, 5:22 pmLampard started to stamp his mark after 25.. could we be seeing the same from Fletcher? I remember Lampard wasn't that highly regarded back then. He's good, but that's it, good solid player. He just went from strength to strength and becoming a goal threat.

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SAF wanted to play Fletcher before he turns 17!

As for Lampard, it didn't look like he was turning into something special though. He was a good/very good solid player(although he was a pretty decent goal scorer from midfield). He moved to Chelsea when he was 23 having made 187 appearances for West Ham. It was only after two seasons there he went up a notch(after Roman came). Then after that Mourinho took over and he went from just a very good player into a great one. Even SAF was surprised by his progress!

Fletcher have been a bit unlucky having come through our ranks. Expectations is higher here with Robson, Ince, Keano, Butt(not great, but was very good for us), Scholes to live up to. That time also we were a bit in a rebuilding process and having Keano on his last legs, Scholes badly off form and having Djemba2, Kleberson and Smith! as partners in midfield. SAF didn't help him by claiming he, Rooney and Ronaldo will be our future..

In 06/07(22) he was starting to improve although still inconsistent(in the normal/smaller games, he doesn't shine as much). Then that 07/08(23) season he was a backup mainly behind Carrick, Scholes, Hargreaves and Ando, although whenever he played he was good mostly. 08/09(24) he truly became regular for us and became one of our most important players. This season(25) seems like going with the same way..

At the same age Lampard got his move to Chelsea, Fletcher had played 148 games for us. If he had started his career elsewhere and got his move to us after he turns 23, then maybe people would rate him a lot higher. His weak, bone body didn't help I guess. We got Roy Keane when he was 22.

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Foster to start at Stoke
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Ben Foster will start for United against Stoke City as the Reds will be without Edwin van der Sar for a further three weeks.

Tomasz Kuszczak impressed between the sticks against Wolverhampton Wanderers on Wednesday, but Foster keeps his place for league duty against his former club.

Van der Sar, who suffered a broken hand in pre-season, isn't expected back until mid-October.

"Edwin is still three weeks away," confirmed Sir Alex at his Friday press conference. "It was a good opportunity for Tomasz to play on Wednesday, but Ben will play against Stoke."

The boss also confirmed that there were no fresh injury concerns from Wednesday night and all the players who played in the 4-3 derby victory over Manchester City are in contention for selection this weekend.

Sir Alex revealed his respect for the work Tony Pulis is doing at Stoke and says that the trip to the Britannia Stadium will be tricky.

"Stoke have a good home record, and I'm not surprised how they've started the season at all," he said. "They're a club on the up and they're going to be a force this season."

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6640319

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