Its not bout differnet ppl having different views on "grades" of jerses. If he sells it as a FAKE and buyers willingly buy it knowing it as a FAKE, then thats willing buyer and wiling seller.

but if he feels it claiming it to be "ORI Factory Reject" / "ORI "replica""/ or watever term used with intention to con others into paying premium amount for fakes, THAT IS A CRIMINAL ACT OF FRAUD. Please let me know if any of you who has fell victim who wants to lodge a police report on the matter I will be more than willing to help.

I hope the seller see this and be warned. I personally am not impressed by his "explanation". In any event, selling fakes on "friend's behalf" does not make him innocent.

bro, how can azuansabri be faulted as a buyer?

and based on the feedback from so many others, not just azuansabri alone, they have confirmation from your fren that the kits were originals even though they are clearly not.

and i think u have been in the forum long enough to know that fakes are getting better by the day and the "M and XL" only fakes, though still in existance, are no longer the only type of fakes (they were not the only ones to begin with). And looking at the price, one who is into collecting jersey would have suspected, and would check before endorsing or "putting up for reference".

i have seen ur link of ur classified ad posted in this forum and though u claim to put for ur fren, u cannot deny that all deals eminating from there may go through u! PM goes to u, messages go to u! u have to be responsible for ur posts, and whatever between u and ur fren is your responsibility as well. ur fren is answerable to u, u r answerable to the buyers on the forum. in the event of criminal investigation, you will be in the place of an accomplice to a crime which is punishable normally as what the offender would be sentenced anyway.

I am sad it has come to this, but am glad you still show up to put up your case. I hope you can help azuansabri with his claims against your fren and get him the refund since you have contact with your fren.

alterntively, i am really considering assisting him in lodging a police report on the matter as this has come to affect credibility of JCs here as well as at the other forum.

cheers.

POST: i see azuansabri has cleared the air that u were not (maybe) the one he bought from. glad for that. but still if u r really repentous u should remove ur classified or clarify the same instead of leaving it there and facilitating / luring more possible victims.

cheers

This post has been edited by chcher: Sep 1 2009, 01:39 AM

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This post has been edited by chcher: Sep 1 2009, 03:34 PM

bro, your solution would be the same as aw13's reply above. scroll back few pages, the same suggested places to get Sevilla FC will be applicable for your depor kit.

or alternatively wait a bit a few months to see if Lotto brings it in. Normally they do bring it a number of their kits - last time a number of serie B clubs were brought in too few years back

Homeofbadges is legit, though pricey.

and on your query, I quote berserk on his myfjc post:

"All means shirt or jersey

MALLIOT = French
TRIKOT = German
MAGLIA = Italian"

and re Redyap, that barca kit sold out in minutes. IT was a one-off for a charity match earlier in the season. A few JCs did get it pricety though but worth every penny of it.

re atambo,

there is no such limited edition. it is limited simply becos the seller "makes" it limited by doing those DIY sigh. Cant really trell if the shirt itself is genuine. It could be, just that the embroids are definitely DIYs.

re Nemesis13,

obvious fake la.

nope, england NNs (as with most if not all country NNS) are PU material.

i think this has been discussed before, ie for member to promote their sales with one post is ok, ie to let others know the link. any other further discussion on the sales will take place at the respective sales thread or via PM.

Maybe some newcomers on the thread are not familiar with some of the old members around. I can vouch for odieseven who has been an active member here since our first few versions a while back. Anyway i don think azuansabri /zaidizero meant any ill intent as well, so it is down to a misunderstanding.

Makakeke is spot on. As long as there is no spam, I am of the view its allright to post one thread to promote one's sales thread. There are posters who posts alot but most are not jersey related discussion. But as long as it is coherent with the discussion and does not stray too far i guess its ok as well.

so excercise discretion bros and we will all learn and benefit from each other

This post has been edited by chcher: Sep 14 2009, 01:58 PM

add patches to complete it bro

nice kit

E-real is a trusted seller, but he does have some non authentic serie A patches etc for sale. But he is honest and will not pass them off as authentic and has even sent us comparisons of the authentic and non authentic patches.

Parcel take about 3 weeks - 4 weeks to arrive.

If you looking for Black EPL fonts why not get from SA? they should stil have. PS sommore.

Bro, did you try emailing them for availability? They (as with most ebay stores / online stores) do not list everything at their website / do not update their website as frequently.

If they do not have anymore, then your best bet is E-real.

If you don mind replica size, i think ALI or R1 may still have, can rey asking them.

the patch is the "Respect" patch. for the respect referee movement. Not available commercially though and hyper rare cos its a controlled item by UEFA

the BOH is only for clubs who have won th European Cup / Champions League (1) 3 years in a row - such as Ajax, Bayern, Real or (2) at least 5 times in total like Liverpool, Real(yes they qualify under both), Milan.

There used to be a joke that it is a conspiracy by Adidas, that only its team get to wear them:P which is not true as Liverpool already were awarded theirs when they were with Reebok.

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Added on September 17, 2009, 10:15 amsponsorless kits will unlikely be sold commercially as pointed out by zaidezero. normally they are worn only once or twice at places like holland / france where there are bans on alcohol / gambling advertisements. Actually not so sure bout the gambling bit but likely to be the reason why they were removed.

So ur best bet is to source match worn / watch issue contacts where the shirt will go for around gbp300 - 500 or more.

Having said that, there may be a chance in the future that Adidas may sell them as what they did with Liverpool sponsorless Formotion kits the last 2 seasons. But there is a genuine fear among most JCs that this may open the floodgate for more "fake" match worn / issue shirts popping up - Pirates can easily obtain DIY sponsors and paste on them and sell them as player shirt sigh.


This post has been edited by chcher: Sep 17 2009, 10:15 AM

domokun, that is the ultimate holy grail for most I am assuming you are referring to Liverpool's BOH 5

if u buy the kits from the liverpool online store, it will be printed, for a charge, if you request.

There are some ebayers (not alot though) selling them for inflated prices of RM180 - 300 per pair. That shows how rare it is.

So best is to buy the current kits from the online store, and if u r really looking to complete that old kit with the patch, no choice but forking out the high charge for them. Or alternatively source for shirts sold with them instead of buying separately.

Take note, this BOH 5 for liverpool is in a darker shade of blue and not the navy blue like BOH for some other clubs - for obvious reasons as navy blue is the colour of our cross town rival so don apply it wrongly haha

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Added on September 17, 2009, 11:55 amthe other BOH 5 in navy blue is meant for old Milan kit so dont get the wrong one

This post has been edited by chcher: Sep 17 2009, 11:55 AM

haha shcmikes, u r right on the term. i was having traouble finding the right word haha. before navy i initially penned "sky"

u can try ebay and search for BOH 5 liverpool, but you need paypal for that and it will cost you at least RM180.00 from experience.

for LFC, they only allow direct printing on shirts purchased from them (and not separately as a pair only without shirt).

bro, like what we told you before, it is not available commercially for sale except at the respective official stores la haha.

Its the holy grail for all liverpool JCs. there is no short cut (or cheap alternative). Thats why its always advisable tog et the whole kit + NNs + BOH patches from the online store directly (though the shipping is high, the BOH is only GBP5 if you get from LFC online so it evens out).

Other than that, u have to get them from those few ebayers who have them (like laputa 1 http://stores.shop.ebay.com.my/THE-ANFIELD...T__W0QQ_armrsZ1 but he seems to have stopped selling for the moment. Maybe no stock or he is away on holiday).

There is a local forummer who is selling it for RM190 a pair, let me know if you are seriously interested then i may hook you up with him. not sure if he still has them now.

looks legit, and as the price suggest it is near the rm180 region. Grab it if have budget

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Added on September 17, 2009, 4:08 pmALI / Real 1 will never have them la haha. sorry to dissapoint you.

You may wait for the LFC store to restock i guess.

anyway no need for desperation la. Its part of the collecting process ie to source and learn more about the item and be patient. sometimes lady luck will come knocking sooner rather than later:)



This post has been edited by chcher: Sep 17 2009, 04:13 PM

bro, is your question specifically to arsenal NNs or generally?

some NNs are out and some not yet. I think Arsenals' are out in sets at ALI, though i stand to be corrected. You may try calling ALI or R1 at numbers on 1st page to check.

in any event euro nns normally comes in sets i think priced btw rm89 - 109 per set, and for arsenal the usual suspect would be Arshavin, Fabregas and Rosicky NNs.

re Deadman_inc, from Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Champion_Clubs%27_Cup :-

"The multiple-winner badge

The multiple-winner badge[2] was introduced for the start of the 2000–01 competition[11] for clubs who have been awarded the trophy permanently. The badge itself adorns the left sleeve of the team's shirt during Champions League and UEFA Cup matches. (A.C. Milan are the only club who wear the badge for all competitions, including friendlies.) It is a navy blue oval on which is an outline of the current trophy in white, overlaid with part of the Champions League starball logo. Above the trophy is the total number of titles held by the club. The badge will still be awarded to clubs winning five overall, or three consecutive, titles."