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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, FT: MNC 4-2 ARS ~ RvP, Rosicky

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post Aug 27 2009, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Aug 27 2009, 07:58 PM)
hahaha, mayb because it in the end of the game plus every1 too tired to run over to him, cause he aint tht close to any1 also tht time laugh.gif

Btw, u know something i like about Ashavin is, he really know hw to use his body when against opponent, although he have a small figure. Although players like Bergkamp and the others know how to use their body well too, bt most of our young gun dont know hw
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Yeah the way he used his low center of gravity to make a quick turn and shot was sweet. The shot itself lack power but he just took it so quickly. One touch and bang. Gave the defender and Boruc in particular no time to react.
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post Aug 27 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 27 2009, 09:42 PM)
I actually find it hard to blame Gallas for the goal. Sure, with hindsight it may seem that Gallas should have moved forward for the offside trap, but it's also easy to nitpick Bak for not covering Donati's run.

My point is, it was a wondershot by Donati which harshly speaking, on any other day it might just go wide instead of into the net.

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In Bak's defence he was merely following his teammates in pushing up for an offside trap. You don't track runners in an offside trap which would defeat the whole purpose of an offside trap if you do.

I don't know but to me if an offside trap fails it only means poor communication between defenders and in this case Gallas fell asleep. Everyone was clearly in line except for Gallas who was well out of position. And when I mean in line even the midfielders and strikers were all in their assigned positions. When the ball was played to Donati you can clearly see in the slow mo part of the video the shape of our team with the exception of Gallas sticking out like a sore thumb well out of position from the defensive line.

Yes, a wondershot but if Gallas was in position in the first place there might not even have been a wondershot.

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post Aug 27 2009, 11:39 PM

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A friendly reminder guys. UEFA Champions League group stage draw will be on in another say...20 mins or so LIVE on ESPN
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post Aug 29 2009, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 28 2009, 08:17 AM)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Bak for the goal either. It was an example of how to nitpick mistakes by overanalysing and that's easier to do by replaying video clips over and over again - which is a luxury that our players on the pitch don't have. A final minute goal from a good shot hurts no more than the ego, and it doesn't take away the fact that all our defenders performed admirably over the two legs.
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Precisely. My point was never to blame anyone as well. I was merely pointing out to some forumers who had unfairly singled out Sagna just because the goal came from his side.

Well they do have the luxury of replaying it over, after the match that is which is IMO more effective than just using words to tell them what went wrong. I think it was pretty obvious that the team losing its shape was the prime cause for conceding that goal and hope the team does learn from this.

Anyway another piece on the Eduardo debacle, this time on Platini + a little on our visit to Old Trafford which is a decent read. Sorry if its been posted before but the posts have been moving so quickly lol

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post Aug 30 2009, 01:06 AM

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Has Mike Dean got a Man Utd jersey underneath his referee uniform ? Wtf is with all the yellow cards.
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post Aug 30 2009, 01:10 AM

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It has to be said we were very poor in that first half. Arshavin's goal was the saving grace of an otherwise poor half from our midfield, Arshavin himself included. The passing has been terrible today IMO.

Then again Man Utd don't look like they are at their best either. Which ever team that picks it up in the 2nd will be the likely winners IMO.

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QUOTE(meaj @ Aug 30 2009, 02:21 AM)
We didn't play bad. So, that's a plus point that we can take home from manchester
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Were you watching another game ? Honestly we were atrocious. We look so static and our passing was horrible. We had absolutely zero movement today. Which was why Song and Denilson had to dribble and dribbling wasn't their strength.

Its just that Man Utd were equally poor as well that we looked the better team.
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QUOTE(meaj @ Aug 30 2009, 02:31 AM)
I wouldn't say atrocious. This our first game against a big team. MU was far from dominating us.
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Like I said, Man Utd not at their best masked the fact that we were well well below par.
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QUOTE(meaj @ Aug 30 2009, 02:49 AM)
Yes agreed. But they played not at their best because of us. And vice versa I suppose. We didn't win the game but it's still very far to go. So the fact that we played better is something we can be happy about. The only thing we can be happy about I might add.
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This I do not agree. The only thing I agree with you is yes, we did play well but only defensively. We had Nani and Valencia and to a certain extent Rooney in our pocket. But for me offensively we were very poor. Like I mentioned before, we had absolute zero movement and this is where the Man Utd defense got it easy. No runs no nothing until Song and Denilson were forced to dribble themselves. We were absolutely let down by our forwards today IMO bar RVP.

As for the Rooney penalty. Its a penalty 100% not a dive. Definite contact was made, Rooney went down, straightforward penalty for me. But it can be argued Rooney was virtually on the way down before Almunia touched him and he was going nowhere having just smacked the ball out of play.

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What is more we just got ourselves a 25000 fine for getting 6 yellow cards and Arshavin might be injured. Stretched and miss the ball and was seen grimacing in pain and limping shortly.
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QUOTE(Evens @ Aug 30 2009, 03:14 AM)
2 Cents'

Despite Arsenal's Diaby, Song and Sagna not lacking in physical power, these guys were obviously a bit too nice compared to Fletcher and Carrick.

Wenger needs to use this game to boost the nasty side in some of his players. You have the physical strength, so beat the sh*t out of players that play dirty.

tbh, it was a waste considering Man U had Ferdinand out, Van der Sar out, Wes Brown (!) starting.

The real question is why couldn't Arsenal get more goals?  Too easily stopped just outside the box.  Also no true left-wing type of player, just like Liverpool.  Maybe should have tried to sign Robben.
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Yes this is what I thought in the first place but my view changed after a few games. The question is not why we need to nasty. Its how to be nasty. Honestly how to be nasty when their players commit 10 crappy challenges and get away with just a talking to or a warning but when we mistime a tackle just 1 time we get a straight yellow for it. How to be nasty ?
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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Aug 30 2009, 03:05 PM)
#1 Explain Fletcher 6 fouls, 0 card.
#2 Valencia elbowing vermaelen in the face, 0 card. then the ref proceed to teach valencia how to jump in the air the proper way.
#3 Not long after that Song fouls, his very first foul, 1 yellow card, total foul count in the end, 3 fouls, 1 yellow card.
#4 Fletcher two footed tackle on arshavin, nothing given.

anyway, manu were ordinary last night. Im sure they wont win anything this season, you can quote me on that.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying they won't win anything but yes they did look ordinary.

I have said it countless of times and I'll say it again. Almunia is not good enough for Arsenal. Penalty or not what was he thinking? and not to mention the amount of times he was caught flapping at crosses and corners. That is another goal he has cost us. At this rate his mistakes will cost us double figures in goals come the end of the season.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Aug 30 2009, 03:14 PM)
Almunia is good enough for Arsenal. Maybe he should learn to read striker instinct. He's more like  traditional GK like Seaman, Kahn and Peruzzi who play cleanly and heavily rely on "good ol' football". Football now have plenty of dirty tricks.
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Sorry but I don't agree. A good keeper but not a great one. Please don't insult the likes of Seaman, Kahn and Peruzzi by mentioning Almunia in the same breath. Of course Almunia can improve but at the moment he is nowhere near good enough to even lace the boots of Seaman or Lehmann at their best for that matter nor is he Arsenal material. If you can wait for him to improve fair enough.

A great shot stopper I admit. But his decision making, positioning and reading of the game is very poor which was pretty much highlighted yesterday. When he shouldn't have rushed out he did and that resulted in the penalty. And when he did decide to stay back it resulted in the Diaby own goal which he should have come and claim comfortably. Not only me but many other Gunners are beginning to notice his indecisions and tendency to cost us in the big games.

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QUOTE(Tak3shi @ Aug 30 2009, 03:26 PM)
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Was accidental he didn't swing his elbow, just jumped. In the chelsea vs MU match last season, drogba kneed into vidic's face, he lost a few tooth, drogba didn't even get a card for it because it was accidental.

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Fletcher was fortunate, yes, but he got the ball too as opposed to almunia who only caught rooney's legs.

Keep on complaining, that's what most of you did last season. Whine. Why can't you guys learn from the real supporters here like Kim instead of whining.

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Yes Fletcher got the ball, with his hands. See the replay.

We are not complaining about whether its a penalty or not. The point of debate here is Rooney was on the way down before Almunia touched him. Contact was made only after Rooney began to fall and not to mention he was going nowhere having smashed the ball out. Had Almunia thugged his hands back like Boruc did there you go, Eduardo Mark 2.

Anyway I don't expect you to see all of this and have the same view and I agree with the other forumers that perhaps its a better idea for you to take your discussions back to the Man Utd thread. After all humans will be humans and will always be biased towards the team we support. Arguments will go nowhere because virtually no one here will agree with you and you will never agree with anyone here. Same goes for us if we post in the Utd thread.
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post Aug 31 2009, 03:08 AM

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If it was anything that encouraged me last night was our defensive unit and how we are starting to defend more like a team now. Gallas and Tommy V were rock solid and so was Clichy and Sagna. Teams will find it very difficult to score against us IMO if we can defend like the way we did last night.
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QUOTE(meaj @ Sep 1 2009, 09:07 PM)
Some info from Arsenal-Mania:
So, that narrows things down a bit. Senderos could still go, Chamakh can still come but the Mongolian kid won't make it. Maybe next time Hukkala Bungga.. wait does Chamakh need a work permit?
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I don't think he needs a work permit. He has been in France with Bordeaux since 2000. He should already have a France passport so he would not need a work permit.
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QUOTE(afiqkhairi @ Sep 2 2009, 09:48 AM)
your siggy says it all dude...
laughing all the way now...
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ROFL you are right. Nice one afiq

w3er you are welcome to come back and post again...when you're sober that is so you won't make a fool of yourself like you just did whistling.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Sep 2 2009, 01:01 PM)
i was actually saying out loud "battle hardened my a$$ la" when i heard Shebby started spouting that. when you do not get the yellow card for any kind of offense you did, it's easy to claim the player is battle hardened. but if the referee did his job properly i.e. handing out card fairly to both team which means Fletcher should be off before half time, i do not think those so-called pundits will sit there and singing praise of the battle hardened man that is Darren Fletcher. instead i believe they will say something about Fletcher being stupid when committing foul after foul.

just goes to show how fickle those pundits are
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Exactly. Fletcher had at least 6 fouls worthy of a yellow card but amazingly finished the game with none. Anyway at the end of the day people will only remember Man Utd picking up 3 pts and not the circumstances in which they got those 3 points. So all we have to do is take it on the chin and look forward to the lads bouncing back in the next match.

Any Man Utd fans who feel or think we are whiners are just plain hypocrites to the highest degree IMO. All you have to do is just look back at the comments made about the referee in the Community Shield match against Chelsea and it pretty much tells the whole story.
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Enough of Man Utd match lol So how should we defend against Ade when we play City ?

Play a high defensive line right on the half way line all game I say so each time when City attacks Ade will be caught offside laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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Djourou out for 6 months. All I can say is thank god we didn't sell Senderos.

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Djourou out for 6 MONTHS!
Arsenal defender Johan Djourou will be missing for six months, L’Équipe has revealed.

The 22-year-old Swiss international was expected to return to the squad later this month, but Djourou has been forced to get his troublesome knee cartilage problem operated on which means he will be on the sidelines for six months.

Although Djourou’s injury is a massive blow to Arsenal, they can count themselves lucky as his fellow compatriot Philippe Senderos is still available as back-up at centre-half.

Senderos was close to leaving the club this season, though it looks like he will be needed now along with former Manchester United defender Mikael Silvestre


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