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reporting in V38..
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Checking in. Everyone huat ar!
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V shape recovery
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REPORTING In with Msports.. Mari mari mari..
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got news about Pantech today, if i'm not mistaken
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 10:48 AM) Checking in. Everyone huat ar! You not going to hold it until the opening? Rumors said that they are planning a head of the schedule so might be opening on end of this year... |
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Wow! So soon.. new thread?
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 10:51 AM) You not going to hold it until the opening? Really? Thanks for the news. Rumors said that they are planning a head of the schedule so might be opening on end of this year... |
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Aug 19 2009, 01:23 AM) In the case of Gpacket, the rights issue will be available to those who have the shares on the 2nd September. How will the price be adjusted? It will be adjusted according to right issue price, (lower price), it will average out the right issue price with the ratio of it at compared to the closing price before ex. (just like what ex-dividend). Is it the same as in the case of ex-daete for dividends ? In the last post you did write about rights issue, you said that it depends on the intention of the company to declare rights issue. Gpacket needs more capital for expansion purposes, not unlike Mulpha who said it is being used to repay debt. Can we assume that the investor view it in a positive way, thus the share price rises because they have faith in the management and in the likely possibility for the company to expand ? Gpacket has plenty of hope from investors that P1 business will drive the company revenue a lot but profitable wise still under a lot of scrutiny as they need to get in enough subscribers to breakeven their book, if not, those high capital expenditure will make the company in red. But to say it rises because of RI afterwards is not the actual picutre. The actual picture is that once overall market rise, almost every stock will rise one. Somemore it has freebie of warrant to 'sweeten' the deal to lure investors take up the RI. Somemore P1 is said to be listed which could make the company some money out of it. But with more share and potential dilution of warrant, its profit need to improve significant otherwise EPS will be diluted after the RI. But if P1 will be listed, that situation become more complex, as holding of P1 will be lower so contribution of the P1 business become lesser to Gpacket. |
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ALAM, everyday play 1.60-1.66. Been 4 days now.
Q 160 always didn't kena, then some1 will push to 1.65 or 1.66.. |
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reporting in! hope still first page!
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:03 AM) ALAM, everyday play 1.60-1.66. Been 4 days now. Alam qtr report will be out soon. anticipating a good one.Q 160 always didn't kena, then some1 will push to 1.65 or 1.66.. |
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Added on August 19, 2009, 11:06 amwhen will maxis be relisted? This post has been edited by mv2r: Aug 19 2009, 11:06 AM |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 19 2009, 10:59 AM) Wow! So soon.. new thread? Hahahaha.....I've left it in limbo: is it BEAR OR BULLTS: Is this your title: Return of the BEAR. |
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Msport biggest trap today :-(
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 10:59 AM) Really? Thanks for the news. I forwarded you the email on corporate actions (dividend/right issue/bonus) in case you want to know which counter is giving out dividends in near future... |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:04 AM) Alam qtr report will be out soon. anticipating a good one. Yes..yes...this is what i read too.....Alam report expect good. |
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 11:08 AM) I forwarded you the email on corporate actions (dividend/right issue/bonus) in case you want to know which counter is giving out dividends in near future... thank you very much. you still have my email, right? btw are you using dbs vickers? |
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espree! Do some analysis on CapitalLand first before you add more stakes on it. I can't remember what I saw on a research paper on it... IIRC it write not so good on CapitalLand... Maybe wince can help you on this.
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Are we lack of water supplies or what? Hmm..Puncak Niaga up 12 sen today so far.
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chyaw, how bout goldenagr?
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checked in.....
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Checking in.
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Rambutan seller still struggling to find buyer to throw at. Keep on sliding.
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TANJONG & KLK keep on sliding......
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QUOTE(kv165 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:07 AM) Msport biggest trap today :-( U think so, or because u bought some?Almost all are the same. See Gloves counters. Ever popular KNM.. and many2x cases. Not a VALID statement of yours in that case. |
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QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ Aug 19 2009, 11:20 AM) chyaw, how bout goldenagr? Summary of the research paper for golden agri:Golden Agri Resources (GAR) released its 2Q09 results on Friday; revenue was down 30.7% YoY but rebounded 37.2% QoQ to US$565.6m; net profit tumbled 64.7% YoY but was up nearly 543.0% QoQ to US$55.1m. Operationally, it appears that the worst of the previous tree stress (due to the drought in 2006) has passed; management is hopeful of seeing better production numbers in 2H09. And while there may be a possible El Nino effect this year, management believes that the impact will probably be felt some 12 months later. We have also raised our CPO assumptions for this year from US$600/ton to US$620/ton, and this in turn bumps up our FY09 revenue forecast by 6.8%; but only raised our net profit estimate by 4.2% as GAR will still need to work through the excess fertilizer that it had bought at a much higher price late last year. Using a higher 12x blended FY09/FY10 EPS valuation (vs. 10x previously), our fair value will rise from S$0.35 to S$0.45. Given the limited upside, we maintain our HOLD rating. |
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quiet oh. calm water. dunno ala crocodile hidden underneath or not?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 11:22 AM) Rambutan seller still struggling to find buyer to throw at. Keep on sliding. i saw many Q at 14.5.... cherroy.... r u one of them? |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 11:22 AM) Rambutan seller still struggling to find buyer to throw at. Keep on sliding. Time to BUY soon.....  |
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No comment on it as I don't look at plantation stock in S'pore...
Anyway, in general S'pore plantation stocks are lower valuation than M'sia one. You may need to do some research on it first QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ Aug 19 2009, 11:20 AM) chyaw, how bout goldenagr? |
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:23 AM) i saw many Q at 14.5.... cherroy.... r u one of them? 13.xx |
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 11:24 AM) 13.xx me guess!!! 13.80!! |
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 11:23 AM) Time to BUY soon..... What stopping RAMBUTAN to slide to 14.00?Look at the Q: 4 lots, 3 lots.. aiya, sedih wooo |
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 11:24 AM) 13.xx 14.50 "seems" like veli strong eh...... once broke then further down totally no1 Q at 14.4x... straight 14.40 This post has been edited by fergie1100: Aug 19 2009, 11:27 AM |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:24 AM) me guess!!! 13.80!! 13.80 would be my price too...Currently this is also my ABP for Mr Rambutan. |
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:23 AM) i saw many Q at 14.5.... cherroy.... r u one of them? I will Q if reach 14.50 below, better still 14.00. Don't Q at buyer side, lets make it 'kosong' at the buyer side, so that make the seller more depressed.  |
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better go n buy TOTO/4D today : 5150!
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I'll dump my Mulpha if Rambutan drop to 13.80!
 QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 11:26 AM) 13.80 would be my price too...Currently this is also my ABP for Mr Rambutan. |
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Anyone any news on Puncak? On the up and up today....
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 11:27 AM) I will Q if reach 14.50 below, better still 14.00. hahhah.... evil-nya..... but i like it Don't Q at buyer side, lets make it 'kosong' at the buyer side, so that make the seller more depressed. |
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 11:22 AM) Summary of the research paper for golden agri: ok, thanks.Golden Agri Resources (GAR) released its 2Q09 results on Friday; revenue was down 30.7% YoY but rebounded 37.2% QoQ to US$565.6m; net profit tumbled 64.7% YoY but was up nearly 543.0% QoQ to US$55.1m. Operationally, it appears that the worst of the previous tree stress (due to the drought in 2006) has passed; management is hopeful of seeing better production numbers in 2H09. And while there may be a possible El Nino effect this year, management believes that the impact will probably be felt some 12 months later. We have also raised our CPO assumptions for this year from US$600/ton to US$620/ton, and this in turn bumps up our FY09 revenue forecast by 6.8%; but only raised our net profit estimate by 4.2% as GAR will still need to work through the excess fertilizer that it had bought at a much higher price late last year. Using a higher 12x blended FY09/FY10 EPS valuation (vs. 10x previously), our fair value will rise from S$0.35 to S$0.45. Given the limited upside, we maintain our HOLD rating. |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 11:18 AM) espree! Do some analysis on CapitalLand first before you add more stakes on it. I can't remember what I saw on a research paper on it... IIRC it write not so good on CapitalLand... Maybe wince can help you on this. CapitaLand in focus after S$1 bln expansion http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichte...pansion-020.htm <-- this is bad news huh? |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 11:28 AM) I'll dump my Mulpha if Rambutan drop to 13.80! It will be a good money-making opportunity if it falls south of 14.00 IMHOAdded on August 19, 2009, 11:32 amAll my counters RED except WCT Typical Wednesday trading session This post has been edited by David_Brent: Aug 19 2009, 11:32 AM |
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Rescue Plan for Tanjong .
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You may want to check the forward PE ratio first.
QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 11:30 AM) CapitaLand in focus after S$1 bln expansion http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichte...pansion-020.htm <-- this is bad news huh? |
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The Gloves are beginning to look like good value too.....
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Some presentation material on Capital Land...
http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwA...pdf?openelement |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 11:34 AM) You may want to check the forward PE ratio first. Noted, thank you. |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 11:34 AM) You may want to check the forward PE ratio first. STI Investment Adviser |
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 11:28 AM) Anyone any news on Puncak? On the up and up today.... should be the settlement of water concession takeover... which the selangor gov want to settle it by end of this month... could speculate a good deal..... to enter now is like sitting on fence up/down..could be either way... however the trend b4 this whenever reach 3.3x the shareholder utilico emerging market always dispose but EPF r there supporting for the moment... |
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RAMBUTAN 1KG 14.50...... any 1? buyers side getting more & more crowded
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:42 AM) RAMBUTAN 1KG 14.50...... any 1? buyers side getting more & more crowded Nah!Buy one free one .... |
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 11:36 AM) Some presentation material on Capital Land... which stockbroking company in kch u use?http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwA...pdf?openelement |
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:42 AM) RAMBUTAN 1KG 14.50...... any 1? buyers side getting more & more crowded mak aminah at the other end of the street is selling cheaper This post has been edited by panasonic88: Aug 19 2009, 11:45 AM |
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 19 2009, 11:42 AM) RAMBUTAN 1KG 14.50...... any 1? buyers side getting more & more crowded Mari mari 1kg 14.50, red red, manis manis. Added on August 19, 2009, 11:46 amI sense 1 or 2 fund managers are eager to dispose it. Other than that, not major players around. This post has been edited by cherroy: Aug 19 2009, 11:46 AM |
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Anyone any thoughts on why The Big Red Rambutan is presenting us with this <ahem> "Buying Opportunity"?
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Maybank and HwangDBS for KLCI
UOBKayHian for STI QUOTE(mv2r @ Aug 19 2009, 11:44 AM) which stockbroking company in kch u use? |
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DJ FUTURES RED!!
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 11:46 AM) Anyone any thoughts on why The Big Red Rambutan is presenting us with this <ahem> "Buying Opportunity"? Rise too fast previously (to 16.00), so now drop fast as well, profit taking. The seller is quite eager to sell one, the situation is similar to previous drop to 13.00 one. You can see the same pattern of selling, each day, they have mandate to sell x number of lots one, can't find buyer, sell to lower price buyer. |
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 11:36 AM) Noted, thank you. Cant find the capitaland research paper already, i think i deleted it when i come back from vacation last week... |
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Start to see some small lots buying @ 15.00....
im still waiting at <14.00, This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 19 2009, 11:53 AM |
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 11:48 AM) Cant find the capitaland research paper already, i think i deleted it when i come back from vacation last week... no prob. I want to buy rambutan. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 11:48 AM) Rise too fast previously (to 16.00), so now drop fast as well, profit taking. Oh...didn't notice that. Thanks!The seller is quite eager to sell one, the situation is similar to previous drop to 13.00 one. You can see the same pattern of selling, each day, they have mandate to sell x number of lots one, can't find buyer, sell to lower price buyer. Added on August 19, 2009, 12:12 pm QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 11:52 AM) Start to see some small lots buying @ 15.00.... Will be interesting to see if there's a support point - but B/S volume very small..im still waiting at <14.00, This post has been edited by David_Brent: Aug 19 2009, 12:12 PM |
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 12:11 PM) Oh...didn't notice that. Thanks! oops!!! typo.... i meant buying at 14.50... my apologies.. Added on August 19, 2009, 12:12 pm Will be interesting to see if there's a support point - but B/S volume very small..  i think there is some ikan bilis support at 14.50... |
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Reporting in. Almost bought Msports in the morning. Phew!
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It could be this week, it could be next week, or it could even be in September.
Sharon Lorimer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But no matter when it happens, traders remain convinced the stock market is set up for a pullback that could take it another 10 percent or so lower before it can start to really move higher. Stocks bounced back Tuesday after Monday's global selloff. The Dow was up 82 at 9217, and the S&P 500 was up 9 points, or 1 percent at 989. Financials, materials and technology led the gains. The dollar weakened, and many commodities were higher, including oil and gold. Oil made a more-than-5-percent move, jumping above $70 in the late electronic session on API's report of tighter-than-expected inventories. Treasurys saw selling along the curve in light volume trading. Investors Wednesday will focus on Hewlett Packard's better-than-expected earnings report and raised forecast, released Tuesday after the bell. The shares weakened, though, as Hewlett said its sequential revenue would be up about 8 percent in the fourth quarter, less than analysts' expected. dont spoil the tradition, make it september... This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 19 2009, 12:31 PM |
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yeah... TM report will be out this friday
after that sell this counter after exdate interim dividend of 12 sen per share » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Aug 19 2009, 12:55 PM
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Check in.
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Aug 19 2009, 12:57 PM
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and some research by OSK...
QUOTE The key companies that have yet to release their results include Telekom Malaysia, Axiata Bhd, GENTING BHD [ GENTING 6.040 -0.010 (-0.165%) ], MALAYAN BANKING BHD [ MAYBANK 6.420 -0.010 (-0.156%) ], Malaysia International Shipping Corp Bhd, Parkson Bhd and steel and oil and gas companies. wanna match genting and keep for this quarter dividend |
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COMPUGT is one of the top gainers this morning: +7.14% (+0.005)
Just about sums up the market so far today...... |
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Aug 19 2009, 01:08 PM
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check in
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Aug 19 2009, 01:13 PM
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wow.. just back from meeting.. CI drop kaw kaw.. time to go for shopping..
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Aug 19 2009, 01:37 PM
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Dialog qtr report looks good
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Aug 19 2009, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 01:37 PM) Dialog qtr report looks good OMG, Pana-jie brings good news!!!  just back from lunch, Financial year end net profit 92.186 million (increased 21.98%) 2.40cents dividend PDF: http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...82576170019CD16 current PER should be : 118/6.59 = 17.90, still high but better than 22.00 last year.. This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 19 2009, 01:52 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 01:44 PM
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Msports kaput, first trading session closed 0.035 sens below IPO.
now at 0.815 i should be gladful that i SL mine huh.  |
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Aug 19 2009, 01:49 PM
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pana jie, you got the IPO of Msport ?
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Aug 19 2009, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 01:44 PM) Msports kaput, first trading session closed 0.035 sens below IPO. Good good now at 0.815 i should be gladful that i SL mine huh. At least will keep you focused on other counters than Msports..By the way, I think Boustead will have quarterly report this week. Normally, it will be this week. If the report is good, do you think the share price will up further? Hmm... Its now 3.62, i may jump in half of my allocation first and see later. |
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Aug 19 2009, 01:52 PM
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Like that how to attract China companies to list here...
 Gov should do something about it QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 01:44 PM) Msports kaput, first trading session closed 0.035 sens below IPO. now at 0.815 i should be gladful that i SL mine huh. |
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Aug 19 2009, 01:54 PM
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chyaw, do u think capitaland have long-term potential?
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Aug 19 2009, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 01:52 PM) Good good me too, feel like going in laterwards. At least will keep you focused on other counters than Msports..By the way, I think Boustead will have quarterly report this week. Normally, it will be this week. If the report is good, do you think the share price will up further? Hmm... Its now 3.62, i may jump in half of my allocation first and see later. by the way, Maybulk qtr report will be out by this/next week too. dunno ala dividend boh. kasi 8-10 sens dividend oso good ah. QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 01:52 PM) Like that how to attract China companies to list here... when the ikan bilis get fed up & cut loss, it will show its true colors Gov should do something about it |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:04 PM
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wah STI second half open so red....
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Aug 19 2009, 02:06 PM
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uh-oh....Shanghai -109.62 (3.77%)
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Aug 19 2009, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 02:04 PM) wah STI second half open so red.... you hold any sti counter? |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:07 PM
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that's too terrible~
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Aug 19 2009, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 02:07 PM) you hold any sti counter? just bought comfort delgro only...defensive stock.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:11 PM
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CapitalLand is a good counter for long term, but not sure whether current price is consider overvalue or undervalue...
That's why I asked you to do some detail study before buying. QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 01:54 PM) chyaw, do u think capitaland have long-term potential? Added on August 19, 2009, 2:13 pmYup! Getting more and more red. Only left StraitAsia still green... QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 02:04 PM) wah STI second half open so red.... This post has been edited by chyaw: Aug 19 2009, 02:13 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 02:11 PM) CapitalLand is a good counter for long term, but not sure whether current price is consider overvalue or undervalue... I bought liow. That's why I asked you to do some detail study before buying. I'm thinking to average down. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:16 PM
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5150 MSports - Die hanging.
Many SELLERS than BUYERS. How come the SELLER throw when they bought it via IPO? I think CHINA's company not glamour vs local like Handal.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:18 PM
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STI now -28.31
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Aug 19 2009, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 02:11 PM) CapitalLand is a good counter for long term, but not sure whether current price is consider overvalue or undervalue... Newsletter for Technical Analysis said STI will hit 2480, i think it might come true within this week..That's why I asked you to do some detail study before buying. Added on August 19, 2009, 2:13 pmYup! Getting more and more red. Only left StraitAsia still green... |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:18 PM
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omg, the jinx wednesday!
shanghai SSEC 2,800, lai ba! dow future is getting reddish! -51.00 THIS MORNING IS A TRAP!!! |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:19 PM
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MSPORT par value only 0.05, highly over value at 0.85, all the best for the investor...
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Aug 19 2009, 02:19 PM
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Zaman, you got Msport ?
Reliable source informed that some inside people throwing big chunk as their cost is low, making tons of profit, ordinary buyers all go holland due to this. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(kv165 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:19 PM) Zaman, you got Msport ? let me reply on behalf of those who was trap by Msport this morning,Reliable source informed that some inside people throwing big chunk as their cost is low, making tons of profit, ordinary buyers all go holland due to this. *** lor. (sorry for being harsh...) market is full of sharks, sigh. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:24 PM
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edited..
SSEC recovered a bit liao, now -76.. im using yahoo got delay 10mins.. This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 19 2009, 02:25 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:18 PM) omg, the jinx wednesday! Ha...Wednesday is the day to buy then, and sell on Thursday....Heheheh shanghai SSEC 2,800, lai ba! dow future is getting reddish! -51.00 THIS MORNING IS A TRAP!!! |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(kv165 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:19 PM) Zaman, you got Msport ? yeah, I did. Sial betul. Reliable source informed that some inside people throwing big chunk as their cost is low, making tons of profit, ordinary buyers all go holland due to this. How much shares they have? Now -350 already.. average at 0.845 |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:30 PM
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SSEC down 3% liao
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Aug 19 2009, 02:31 PM
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this is hurt.
CI 1159.44pt |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:29 PM) yeah, I did. Sial betul. run run run! revenge later!How much shares they have? Now -350 already.. average at 0.845 |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:32 PM
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MSport jatuh longkang liao..
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Aug 19 2009, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 19 2009, 12:52 PM) yeah... TM report will be out this friday thanks for the TM news, hoping for the 12cents too after that sell this counter after exdate interim dividend of 12 sen per share » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 02:33 PM) thanks for the TM news, hoping for the 12cents too but still not tax exempt yet |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:34 PM
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Tanjong 14.40 lai liao
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Aug 19 2009, 02:34 PM
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TANJONG sliding continue
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Aug 19 2009, 02:35 PM
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tanjong getting attractive
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Aug 19 2009, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:34 PM) TANJONG sliding continue told you, makcik fatimah sells cheaper |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:35 PM) told you, makcik fatimah sells cheaper Still too expensive for me....  |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:35 PM) told you, makcik fatimah sells cheaper Negotiate to 14.30. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:35 PM) told you, makcik fatimah sells cheaper OMG....... RM14.36 sekilo now...... RAMBUTAN season kah? how come getting cheaper & cheaper? |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:38 PM
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come come come panic selling. Long time no see liao.
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Aug 19 2009, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:38 PM) Negotiate to 14.30. it is raining soon. seller is getting impatient. she just wants money & balik rumah press dia kaw kaw! This post has been edited by panasonic88: Aug 19 2009, 02:39 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:38 PM) Negotiate to 14.30. seller is pondering now |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:29 PM) yeah, I did. Sial betul. few millions, mine 0.85 but little bit only.How much shares they have? Now -350 already.. average at 0.845 |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:41 PM
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Boustead 3.60 jor.
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Aug 19 2009, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:39 PM) it is raining soon. seller is getting impatient. she just wants money & balik rumah Then play mind game with her. Now I offer 14.30, 30 min later withdraw the offer, out 14.20. press dia kaw kaw! Make the seller bek tahan, especially at current market condition which smell some panic around. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:35 PM) told you, makcik fatimah sells cheaper I wanna buy from Pak Ananda...got ah? 13.80 mari mari...Please.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 03:24 PM) edited.. please goto www.osk188.com to enquire, it only 30-60sec delay. SSEC recovered a bit liao, now -76.. im using yahoo got delay 10mins.. 10 minute can make people die |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:43 PM
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Gimme 1Kilo @ 13.90!
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Aug 19 2009, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:41 PM) Then play mind game with her. Now I offer 14.30, 30 min later withdraw the offer, out 14.20. later tak sempat to withdraw baru tau Make the seller bek tahan, especially at current market condition which smell some panic around. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 02:41 PM) I wanna buy from Pak Ananda...got ah? 13.80 mari mari...Please.. His rambutan has not grown yet (just harvest last month at 13.00), so need to wait for awhile, but no guarantee will grow one. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:44 PM
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shanghai 2800 broke.
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Aug 19 2009, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:41 PM) Then play mind game with her. Now I offer 14.30, 30 min later withdraw the offer, out 14.20. buyers & sellers idle for few minutes jor... no 1 wan 2 make the move..... tis is interesting Make the seller bek tahan, especially at current market condition which smell some panic around. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:44 PM
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ahhh sibeh tempted to buy Boustead at 3.60 >.<
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Aug 19 2009, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(jacktai @ Aug 19 2009, 02:42 PM) please goto www.osk188.com to enquire, it only 30-60sec delay. thanks taiko, i didnt know can see on osk website.. pai seh 10 minute can make people die |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:44 PM) ahhh sibeh tempted to buy Boustead at 3.60 >.< I should have wait. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:44 PM) shanghai 2800 broke. China market swing like mad now, a few ten minutes can change 1-2% one. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 02:46 PM) I should have wait. yours 3.86, ahhhhh!never mind, future dividends could cover back.  |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:44 PM) ahhh sibeh tempted to buy Boustead at 3.60 >.< Aihhhh....i cannot believe this....My system hang...I ady q for bstead at 3.62 now not show up at all. It just stuck as an unmatched order. WTH..... Calling remisier...calling remisier......  |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:48 PM
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I'm looking at RAMBUTAN, wanna buy 1 KG @ 14.00.
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Aug 19 2009, 02:50 PM
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dow future dip futher -60
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Aug 19 2009, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:48 PM) I'm looking at RAMBUTAN, wanna buy 1 KG @ 14.00. Tak ala liao, some big eater come to sapu makcik's rambutan already, need to wait to see whether got second batch or not. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:51 PM
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LATEXX
ADVENTA PELIKAN KNM 76c MEGAsales again.. Pity those trapped. My 5150 sliding to 0.795-0.80 : almost -500 now |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:51 PM
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Aiyoooo.... my hand very the itchiness leh.....
Thinking of getting some Sealink to join you sealinkers..... |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:52 PM
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makcik "tiao keh" now....... dun wanna sell cheap jor.... got big customers buy in bulk
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:52 PM) makcik "tiao keh" now....... dun wanna sell cheap jor.... got big customers buy in bulk makcik action liao. My "ang mo dan" is the best ah! |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:55 PM
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STI: 2,526.78 -40.94
HSI: 19,879.79 -426.48 |
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cherroy ah
bstead-OR boh laku by right mothershare shouldn't worth THAT much (now 3.61), correct? fair price 2.80 + 0.73 = 3.53 <-- am i right? |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:56 PM) cherroy ah Yuh, is cheaper to buy OR. Too bad i bot some yesterday. bstead-OR boh laku by right mothershare shouldn't worth THAT much (now 3.61), correct? fair price 2.80 + 0.73 = 3.53 <-- am i right? |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:58 PM
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HSI chart, 90 degree turn..
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Aug 19 2009, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:54 PM) makcik action liao. My "ang mo dan" is the best ah! "qie qie eh... beh kao ang le..." |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:59 PM
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Pana - I move ahead with the plan ady.....1/2 of allocation bought for Boustead - 3.60.
Now monitor if can break 3.60 and next purchase will be 3.50. |
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Aug 19 2009, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(protonw @ Aug 19 2009, 02:57 PM) Yuh, is cheaper to buy OR. Too bad i bot some yesterday. You also save on commission for the RM2800. Need pay only some handling fees ie rm2.00 for me. |
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The chart looks very scary...
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 02:59 PM) Pana - I move ahead with the plan ady.....1/2 of allocation bought for Boustead - 3.60. okay noted that. i shall wait after 3.30pm.Now monitor if can break 3.60 and next purchase will be 3.50. have to aim zhun zhun, armo limited jor. QUOTE(protonw @ Aug 19 2009, 02:59 PM) You also save on commission for the RM2800. Need pay only some handling fees ie rm2.00 for me. thanks tai kah jie really poor responses this OR. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:02 PM
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bad time for ipo, luckily my msport ipo application not success
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walao weh.....futures pecah below 1150 level
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 03:00 PM) The chart looks very scary... Once again, another bungee jump of the day. *Pewwwwwww*  |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 02:56 PM) cherroy ah -OR need to discount a bit because there is time lag for OR to become the mothershare, you need to send in money, only about 2 week to complete it. bstead-OR boh laku by right mothershare shouldn't worth THAT much (now 3.61), correct? fair price 2.80 + 0.73 = 3.53 <-- am i right? What if market laosai within the 2 week, you cannot run and stuck in it. So OR need to be much lower. 0.73 (if mothershare is 3.61) is considered at higher range already, a merely 8 cents discount is not attractive. But for those initially wish to have it for long term, the cheaper alternative is always the better choice. |
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tomolo is july ghost month liao...
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stocks market can drop from highest 1190 to current 1156...around 40pt...
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 03:03 PM) -OR need to discount a bit because there is time lag for OR to become the mothershare, you need to send in money, only about 2 week to complete it. What if market laosai within the 2 week, you cannot run and stuck in it. So OR need to be much lower. 0.73 (if mothershare is 3.61) is considered at higher range already, a merely 8 cents discount is not attractive. But for those initially wish to have it for long term, the cheaper alternative is always the better choice. thanks for explaining, taikor. i'll tell makcik to give you additional discount on your Rambutan. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 02:38 PM) come come come panic selling. Long time no see liao. It's a beautiful sight! |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:07 PM
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Rcecap is strong, fall 1 sens only.
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Aug 19 2009, 03:08 PM
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bloomberg say china stock falls and shanghai went into bear market liow.
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Aug 19 2009, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:07 PM) Rcecap is strong, fall 1 sens only. Rcecap kena dispose kau kau on Monday.... the day i bought at high... hahaha my queue is 0.65 then 0.60 last shot... anything below i'll monitor from hospital already.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:10 PM
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sealink dropping.. gonna average down more...
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Aug 19 2009, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 03:08 PM) SSE drop 5% liao.... Time to be greedy - like your signature say.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 19 2009, 02:51 PM) Aiyoooo.... my hand very the itchiness leh..... Come and join me! Thinking of getting some Sealink to join you sealinkers.....  |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:12 PM
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Hmm TM is still standing, i tot of getting more before announcement... there's some risk there, but worth taking imo...
Makcik cannot swallow anymore rambutan, i think she choked... continue to slide... This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 19 2009, 03:13 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:02 PM) bad time for ipo, luckily my msport ipo application not success |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:13 PM
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I just cannot understand why anyone would want to sell in this market at this time.
Makes no sense at all..... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:10 PM) Time to be greedy - like your signature say.... Doomcake will be smiling in his sleep. Guess what he will say tonight......QUOTE(Suicider @ Aug 19 2009, 03:11 PM) Come and join me! Itchy itchy!!! Somebody scratch me!!!!!! |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:14 PM
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Rambutan could well go sub 14.00
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Aug 19 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 19 2009, 03:13 PM) Doomcake will be smiling in his sleep. Guess what he will say tonight...... this is just beginning? |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:15 PM
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BUY BUY BUY....this market must BUY!!!!
Errmm...hehehe....maybe wait 1 - 2 more days...Friday may see further selling...then BUY BUY BUY |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:15 PM
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I can almost SMELL the fear and panic out there......
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Aug 19 2009, 03:16 PM
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LOL mopster you damn funny la
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Aug 19 2009, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 03:14 PM) this is just beginning? Probably something about bears and "I told you so"...... let's wait for him to wake up.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:15 PM) I can almost SMELL the fear and panic out there...... i also smell burnt dollar.  |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:19 PM
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Actually KLSE quite stable.
Can you imagine if we dropped 5% or 6%? Where would that put us on an index basis? |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:19 PM) Actually KLSE quite stable. with EPF, PNB, Tabung Haji, Tabung Tentera, controlling most of KLCI, it is less volatile imo..Can you imagine if we dropped 5% or 6%? Where would that put us on an index basis? i think by 3% they will Halt trading liao... LOL |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:24 PM
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dow future -77
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Aug 19 2009, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 03:23 PM) with EPF, PNB, Tabung Haji, Tabung Tentera, controlling most of KLCI, it is less volatile imo.. Indeed.i think by 3% they will Halt trading liao... LOL On a happier note - we have some nice divvy cheques to come from DIALOG I think. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:25 PM) Indeed. 2.4 sens iiam. On a happier note - we have some nice divvy cheques to come from DIALOG I think. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:24 PM) dow future -77 See anything worth buying?? |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:26 PM) See anything worth buying?? not low enough as compared to monday. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:25 PM) 2.4 sens iiam. Yeah! Better than a kick in the pants... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 03:23 PM) with EPF, PNB, Tabung Haji, Tabung Tentera, controlling most of KLCI, it is less volatile imo.. I quite agree with Mopster...Hahaha i think by 3% they will Halt trading liao... LOL We have powerful people holding lots of interests here....So, i think dropping 5-7% would be prevented by our own Agensi Pam Perlindungan. Aiyah....this from Bloomberg....What a lousy Iron & Steel company in China....Cause worldwide & regional sell off. But if give us opportunity to BUY. Hahah Quote from Bloomberg: European and U.S. stock-index futures fell and Asian shares retreated as China’s Maanshan Iron & Steel Co. posted a second straight half-year loss and copper dropped. The Shanghai Composite Index entered a bear market. Maanshan fell 7.7 percent after announcing a 795.4 million yuan ($116 million) net loss for the first half. BHP Billiton Ltd. slid 1.5 percent in Australia as lead, tin and nickel slipped on the London Metal Exchange. Telekom Austria AG will probably move as profit at the country’s biggest phone company trailed analysts’ estimates for the second quarter. Futures on the Euro Stoxx 50 Index slid 0.7 percent at 7:52 a.m. in London. The U.K.’s FTSE 100 Index is set to open 24 points lower, according to inter-dealer broker BGC Partners. Standard & Poor’s 500 Index futures expiring in September slipped 1 percent, while the MSCI Asia Pacific Index decreased 0.7 percent. China’s Shanghai Composite Index fell as much as 5.1 percent, a 20.5 percent retreat from this year’s high on Aug. 4. Maanshan dropped 7.7 percent to 4.80 yuan. A slump of at least 20 percent on an index is commonly defined as a bear market. Worst Drop U.S. and European stocks rose yesterday, helping global equities rebound from the worst drop since April, following better-than-estimated earnings at Home Depot Inc. and Target Corp. and an increase in German investor confidence. BHP slid 1.5 percent to A$36.71. Copper retreated 2.3 percent on the LME. Telekom Austria may move. Net income dropped to 82.3 million euros ($116.5 million), missing the 84.1 million euros estimated by analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:29 PM
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Everyone gone very quiet...wonder if half the forum in Gleneagles with heart attack......
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Aug 19 2009, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:29 PM) Everyone gone very quiet...wonder if half the forum in Gleneagles with heart attack...... busy buying ytl power keep droping, why This post has been edited by espree: Aug 19 2009, 03:31 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:31 PM
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I'm waiting for Latexx to drop more... Then I'll switch my Mulpha to Latexx.
QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:29 PM) Everyone gone very quiet...wonder if half the forum in Gleneagles with heart attack...... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 03:31 PM) I'm waiting for Latexx to drop more... Then I'll switch my Mulpha to Latexx. i wanna buy Latexx too! maybe tomolo. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:13 PM) I just cannot understand why anyone would want to sell in this market at this time. Why not, I can sell Tanjong at 14.30 as well still getting decent profit out of it which just bought last month or so one, not to mentioned 20+ cents dividend already in the bag already.Makes no sense at all..... So there are still lot of people can sell if they wish to or scare one. QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 03:23 PM) with EPF, PNB, Tabung Haji, Tabung Tentera, controlling most of KLCI, it is less volatile imo.. Yes, there is little chance for KLCI to drop this kind of level, as local taikor will come to cushion the drop. Only fierce selling by foreign investors (like 308 last year), by then they only cannot cushion it.i think by 3% they will Halt trading liao... LOL |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:29 PM) Everyone gone very quiet...wonder if half the forum in Gleneagles with heart attack...... Still Gleneagles meh? Oni can afford General Hospital la like dat |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:34 PM
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No action liao! my M2U system can't buy/sell now
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:32 PM) i wanna buy Latexx too! maybe tomolo. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 03:31 PM) I'm waiting for Latexx to drop more... Then I'll switch my Mulpha to Latexx. QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:32 PM) i wanna buy Latexx too! maybe tomolo. i thought thursday shud be up haha |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:35 PM
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Aug 19 2009, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:29 PM) Everyone gone very quiet...wonder if half the forum in Gleneagles with heart attack...... beh tahan seeing RED everywhere.I'm calculating : either to Cut Lose or HOLD.. Hold must comes with CASH $$$ |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 03:33 PM) Why not, I can sell Tanjong at 14.30 as well still getting decent profit out of it which just bought last month or so one, not to mentioned 20+ cents dividend already in the bag already. The psychology doesn't stack up to me when those selling at 14.30 know full well they could have sold at 15.xx (ex-divvy) only a matter of days ago So there are still lot of people can sell if they wish to or scare one. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 03:35 PM) i thought thursday shud be up haha dow future very red oh. reminds me of monday nite Dow. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:35 PM) beh tahan seeing RED everywhere. a tad late to cut loss, no? I'm calculating : either to Cut Lose or HOLD.. Hold must comes with CASH $$$  |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 03:14 PM) this is just beginning? woo.. GI Joe ar QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:32 PM) i wanna buy Latexx too! maybe tomolo. wah.. pana jie.. ur bullet very "bold".. i m thinking of wanna sell my lioncor and jump in other ship later or how..  but since hv no other better choice.. then better hold it.. any recommendation besides the red hot rambutan n bstead? lol... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:40 PM
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i see some stability in my stocks (except latexx, lolz)
proud that maybulk is holding up well. wish will get a flying colour report card. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:39 PM) woo.. GI Joe ar kasi sapu gloves counters. wah.. pana jie.. ur bullet very "bold".. i m thinking of wanna sell my lioncor and jump in other ship later or how.. but since hv no other better choice.. then better hold it.. any recommendation besides the red hot rambutan n bstead? lol... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:42 PM
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I don't think Maybulk will be doing well... BDI not performing and DBS expect more downtrend...
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:40 PM) i see some stability in my stocks (except latexx, lolz) proud that maybulk is holding up well. wish will get a flying colour report card. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM
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 the whole gang came out .. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 03:42 PM) I don't think Maybulk will be doing well... BDI not performing and DBS expect more downtrend... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:36 PM) The psychology doesn't stack up to me when those selling at 14.30 know full well they could have sold at 15.xx (ex-divvy) only a matter of days ago I very agree. Those who willing to sell of at 14.xx could have sold at 15.xx then. It actually reached 16.00, and I asked around whether I should dump it. I decided not to and it is back to 14.xx. I am still holding on to it, and waiting to wallop some more below 14.Perhaps others have different trading methods that i don't "ming bai".  |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:41 PM) kasi sapu gloves counters. Ala aim 7191 tak? |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:40 PM) i see some stability in my stocks (except latexx, lolz) RCECAP also quite stable.proud that maybulk is holding up well. wish will get a flying colour report card. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM) Ala aim 7191 tak? ala, in my watchlist. remember you sei yannnnn when it was traded at 1.75 on monday? any chance to fetch it lower  Added on August 19, 2009, 3:46 pm QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:45 PM) RCECAP also quite stable. yahlor, become defensive, not to mention yesterday big lots buying it. This post has been edited by panasonic88: Aug 19 2009, 03:46 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 03:42 PM) I don't think Maybulk will be doing well... BDI not performing and DBS expect more downtrend... There was an article about BDI should have good future...Hmm... http://klsestockcomment.blogspot.com/2009/...en-reasons.html |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM) I very agree. Those who willing to sell of at 14.xx could have sold at 15.xx then. It actually reached 16.00, and I asked around whether I should dump it. I decided not to and it is back to 14.xx. I am still holding on to it, and waiting to wallop some more below 14. That's what I'm waiting for as well. Perhaps others have different trading methods that i don't "ming bai". As soon as I think it's bottomed out (for this period) I will do a smash and grab raid on it.... The fundamentals of the stock are exactly the same at 13.xx as they were at 16.00 and they will be when it gets to >18.00. Unless there's some 'news' I'm missing. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM) I very agree. Those who willing to sell of at 14.xx could have sold at 15.xx then. It actually reached 16.00, and I asked around whether I should dump it. I decided not to and it is back to 14.xx. I am still holding on to it, and waiting to wallop some more below 14. Perhaps others have different trading methods that i don't "ming bai". cheers bro...I didnt sell mine as well, still holding and planning to get more.. I guess this shows our confidence in rambutan QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM) Ala aim 7191 tak? ala ala... wait a bit more, |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:48 PM
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PLUS holding up well too.
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Aug 19 2009, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:47 PM) That's what I'm waiting for as well. hehe there are many Tanjong holders in LYN, if got news sure will be discussed here As soon as I think it's bottomed out (for this period) I will do a smash and grab raid on it.... The fundamentals of the stock are exactly the same at 13.xx as they were at 16.00 and they will be when it gets to >18.00. Unless there's some 'news' I'm missing. cant help if it is internal news... everyone will go holland.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 03:47 PM) There was an article about BDI should have good future...Hmm... thanks VyvernS, reading. http://klsestockcomment.blogspot.com/2009/...en-reasons.html  QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:47 PM) That's what I'm waiting for as well. have you get ready your RM100,000 funds? As soon as I think it's bottomed out (for this period) I will do a smash and grab raid on it.... The fundamentals of the stock are exactly the same at 13.xx as they were at 16.00 and they will be when it gets to >18.00. Unless there's some 'news' I'm missing. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:49 PM
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wats happening to msports?????
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Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM
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2267 keep dropping, nearing my target of 14.00, Will buy 1KG as I have limited bullets, sangkut in 5150 today.
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Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM
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It is normal that different research house have different opinion... Depends on which one you believe..
QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 03:47 PM) There was an article about BDI should have good future...Hmm... http://klsestockcomment.blogspot.com/2009/...en-reasons.html |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:25 PM) 2.4 sens iiam. Better than nothing. Since the price is not moving anywhere |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:45 PM) ala, in my watchlist. Honestly,I won't buy back until the PE drops to 7.remember you sei yannnnn when it was traded at 1.75 on monday? any chance to fetch it lower Bought some rambutan,hope not sour one. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:49 PM) thanks VyvernS, reading. Already cleared and waiting to be spent have you get ready your RM100,000 funds? |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:47 PM) That's what I'm waiting for as well. http://www.topnews.in/bill-gates-looking-p...-greece-2200032As soon as I think it's bottomed out (for this period) I will do a smash and grab raid on it.... The fundamentals of the stock are exactly the same at 13.xx as they were at 16.00 and they will be when it gets to >18.00. Unless there's some 'news' I'm missing. Maybe AK wants to put in a bid for the island too... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM) Better than nothing. Since the price is not moving anywhere 0.9x to 1.2x in the last few weeks.Innit! |
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM) Honestly,I won't buy back until the PE drops to 7. PE at 7. long way to go neh Bought some rambutan,hope not sour one. |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM) http://www.topnews.in/bill-gates-looking-p...-greece-2200032 Or back-to-back it and flip it to Gates.... Maybe AK wants to put in a bid for the island too... |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:51 PM) 0.9x to 1.2x in the last few weeks. Past few months mayb,Innit! |
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Aug 19 2009, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:52 PM) PE at 7. long way to go neh Either the price really drop off cliff or earnings shoot to the sky... |
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 19 2009, 03:53 PM) Past few months mayb, so: +/- 30% in the past "few months mayb" |
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where r u now? - got from cashcolor.com
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:52 PM) PE at 7. long way to go neh Nothing is impossible in the stock market. If can't get ,look for other target lor. This post has been edited by lklatmy: Aug 19 2009, 04:03 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:36 PM) The psychology doesn't stack up to me when those selling at 14.30 know full well they could have sold at 15.xx (ex-divvy) only a matter of days ago QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 03:43 PM) I very agree. Those who willing to sell of at 14.xx could have sold at 15.xx then. It actually reached 16.00, and I asked around whether I should dump it. I decided not to and it is back to 14.xx. I am still holding on to it, and waiting to wallop some more below 14. A few days or few week trend doesn't matter one if one intends to hold it for long term and fundamental still intact. Perhaps others have different trading methods that i don't "ming bai". I am happy to see each year getting 90 cents dividend and don't bother about the current share price too much. But if fundamental changing like EPS drop due to operation business deteoriation, div drop, then I can sell it at 14.00 or 13.00 as well disregard it has reached 16.00 or 18.00 previously or not. What has happened few days ago like reached 16.00 or not, has passed and no point to see back like haiseh, 16.00 doesn't sell, so I should not sell at 14.30. It doesn't work this way. Sometimes if things or situation have changed (especially fundamental side), then must protect the profit. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:03 PM
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M2u can buy/sell or not now? if still stuck..how to queue?
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Aug 19 2009, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(cks @ Aug 19 2009, 01:13 PM) wow.. just back from meeting.. CI drop kaw kaw.. time to go for shopping.. ya |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:04 PM
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bought WCT today @ 2.59!!!
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Aug 19 2009, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:04 PM) bought WCT today @ 2.59!!! Company Name :WCT BERHAD EX-date :04/09/2009 Entitlement date :08/09/2009 Entitlement description :Interim Dividend of 5 sen per Ordinary Share of RM0.50 each less Malaysian Income Tax of 25% Entitlement in Currency:0.05 |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 04:02 PM) A few days or few week trend doesn't matter one if one intends to hold it for long term and fundamental still intact. Thanks Cherroy for the pointers. I am happy to see each year getting 90 cents dividend and don't bother about the current share price too much. But if fundamental changing like EPS drop due to operation business deteoriation, div drop, then I can sell it at 14.00 or 13.00 as well disregard it has reached 16.00 or 18.00 previously or not. What has happened few days ago like reached 16.00 or not, has passed and no point to see back like haiseh, 16.00 doesn't sell, so I should not sell at 14.30. It doesn't work this way. Sometimes if things or situation have changed (especially fundamental side), then must protect the profit. Agreed, that fundmentals are important guiding factor. I have read 3 articles on Tanjong, one from CIMB, one from Personal Money and another I cannot remember (possibly Smart Investor or Malaysian Business), all recent articles. All have good calls on Tanjong being a good long term investment company. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 04:02 PM) A few days or few week trend doesn't matter one if one intends to hold it for long term and fundamental still intact. Taikor explained it well. I am happy to see each year getting 90 cents dividend and don't bother about the current share price too much. But if fundamental changing like EPS drop due to operation business deteoriation, div drop, then I can sell it at 14.00 or 13.00 as well disregard it has reached 16.00 or 18.00 previously or not. What has happened few days ago like reached 16.00 or not, has passed and no point to see back like haiseh, 16.00 doesn't sell, so I should not sell at 14.30. It doesn't work this way. Sometimes if things or situation have changed (especially fundamental side), then must protect the profit. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 03:29 PM) Everyone gone very quiet...wonder if half the forum in Gleneagles with heart attack...... Quickly go buy medical related stock! |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:09 PM
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Bstead really going further south....Hahaha
looks like i need to prep bullets.Set lower target for next purchase ady....3.45. Now at 3.58. Apart from that, OT: Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 announces 6.3sen div per unit. http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 04:02 PM) A few days or few week trend doesn't matter one if one intends to hold it for long term and fundamental still intact. If the fundamentals have radically changed (either of the company or its environment) then - yes - people would dispose under the circumstances described.I am happy to see each year getting 90 cents dividend and don't bother about the current share price too much. But if fundamental changing like EPS drop due to operation business deteoriation, div drop, then I can sell it at 14.00 or 13.00 as well disregard it has reached 16.00 or 18.00 previously or not. What has happened few days ago like reached 16.00 or not, has passed and no point to see back like haiseh, 16.00 doesn't sell, so I should not sell at 14.30. It doesn't work this way. Sometimes if things or situation have changed (especially fundamental side), then must protect the profit. My point was that we are not currently (yet) in that situation. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 19 2009, 03:50 PM) Honestly,I won't buy back until the PE drops to 7. Bought some rambutan,hope not sour one. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:10 PM
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Can buy/sell jor! Sold my Mulpha for peanut profit and buy Latexx @1.96.
QUOTE(enji @ Aug 19 2009, 04:03 PM) M2u can buy/sell or not now? if still stuck..how to queue? |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 04:10 PM) Can buy/sell jor! Sold my Mulpha for peanut profit and buy Latexx @1.96. Okie Dookie. Q-ing for KNM @ 0.76 |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 04:10 PM) Can buy/sell jor! Sold my Mulpha for peanut profit and buy Latexx @1.96. welcome onboard. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:12 PM
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Mah Sing......2.00 for 8 sen dividend - 4%....Anyone? It's holding up damn strong...Ex Date 10/09/09.
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Aug 19 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 04:10 PM) Can buy/sell jor! Sold my Mulpha for peanut profit and buy Latexx @1.96. Congratulations. Welcome on board SS Latexx! |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(enji @ Aug 19 2009, 04:12 PM) Okie Dookie. Q-ing for KNM @ 0.76 how much fund u put into trust account? |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 04:07 PM) Thanks Cherroy for the pointers. also to add The Edge, Standard and Poor, MIB also got good calls Agreed, that fundmentals are important guiding factor. I have read 3 articles on Tanjong, one from CIMB, one from Personal Money and another I cannot remember (possibly Smart Investor or Malaysian Business), all recent articles. All have good calls on Tanjong being a good long term investment company. Rambutan got support @ 14.30 now.... maybe i nibble a bit (200 shares) first.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:15 PM
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yah! a bit sad on Mulpha regarding the RI...
I won't have sold it if there is no RI... Anyway, I'm expecting Mulpha to climb back in short term, else nobody wants to subcribe to the RI. QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 04:12 PM) welcome onboard. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(mv2r @ Aug 19 2009, 04:13 PM) how much fund u put into trust account? Not much...i'm a small fry, tak ada duit... |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:17 PM
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My STI counters remain the same. Only StraitAsia green... Others ang ang...
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Aug 19 2009, 04:18 PM
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futures also ang ang -88.00
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Aug 19 2009, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 04:09 PM) If the fundamentals have radically changed (either of the company or its environment) then - yes - people would dispose under the circumstances described. But sometimes you have to be in the shoe of fund managers.My point was that we are not currently (yet) in that situation. If UT holders redeem their unit, fund managers need to find some stock to sell to raise cash to pay, right? So they need to choose one of their portfolio, eg. ok, seeing Tanjong make decent, so sell it. Fund managers invest strategy is different than individual, they need to response to environment and needs of the fund. If they need cash and need to pull out, they will sell disregard how good potential of the stock is. Also, some fund managers may view newly jackpot introduced by Magnum could competet the Big Sweep revenue or budget is coming out, some sin tax applied? or re-negotiate of IPP contract? etc etc. But still selling activities is still orderly, just the sellers are eager to dispose x number of share which until they have finished, only then see price stablising. Added on August 19, 2009, 4:23 pm QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 04:13 PM) also to add The Edge, Standard and Poor, MIB also got good calls The reason why good call, because in KLSE, you can't find many stocks able to give 90 cents dividend year in year out in big cap name. Rambutan got support @ 14.30 now.... maybe i nibble a bit (200 shares) first.. Dividend yield is 6% which is >2x current FD rate. While EPS at 40+ cents Q, transalate annuliased PER below 10, while NTA at 9.80, share price vs book value less than 1.5x which one can't find many in KLSE. It is a simple call actually by seeing those figure. Don't mean recommend it, as fundamental issue can change one, especially in current economy environment. This post has been edited by cherroy: Aug 19 2009, 04:23 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:25 PM
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Tanjong ... see the similarity
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Aug 19 2009, 04:31 PM
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China Stock Index Plunges, Briefly Enters Bear Market (Update1)
By Bloomberg News Aug. 19 (Bloomberg) -- China’s stocks fell, briefly driving the benchmark index into a so-called bear market, on concern tighter lending will damp economic growth. The Shanghai Composite Index lost 4.3 percent to 2,785.58, as China Shenhua Energy Co., the nation’s largest coal producer, sank 6.8 percent, the most since Feb. 18, and Citic Securities Co., the biggest brokerage, sank 7.8 percent. The gauge has slumped 19.8 percent since this year’s high on Aug. 4, after more than doubling from November’s low as China rolled out a 4 trillion yuan ($585 billion) stimulus package. A plunge in new bank loans in July, disappointing earnings and concern the government will seek to damp property market speculation has sapped confidence. “It’s irrational selling that has shattered market confidence,†said Larry Wan, Shanghai-based deputy chief investment officer at KBC-Goldstate Fund Management Co., which oversees about $583 million in assets. “Some mutual funds have been reducing their stock holdings as they are pessimistic about the economic outlook.†China Everbright Securities Co., which had the smallest first-day gain of any new stock in Shanghai this year, slumped by the 10 percent daily limit today. About 10 stocks fell for each that rose on the Shanghai index. “The Chinese market is very trend-oriented because there are many individual investors,†said Philippe Zhang, chief investment officer at AXA SPDB Investment Managers in Shanghai, which oversees about $220 million. “It can rally very quickly and go down strongly as well.†New Loans The Shanghai index, the third-best performing market in the world in the first seven months, remains 59 percent below its record level on Oct. 16, 2007. Stocks have slumped this month as new loans in July declined to less than a quarter of June’s level, the regulator allowed initial share sales after a nine- month moratorium and companies including Yunnan Copper Industry Co. reported losses. The gauge remains 53 percent higher this year. “The current correction is reflecting the tightening in lending,†said Andy Xie, a former Asian chief economist at Morgan Stanley, who correctly predicted in April 2007 that China’s equities would tumble. “We’ve seen the peak of this market cycle, though there’s likely to be a bounce as the government seeks to stabilize the market.†The market may extend its decline by another 10 percent, Xie said Aug. 17. Even with the recent decline, the Shanghai index is trading at 30.4 times reported earnings, against 17.5 times for shares on the MSCI Emerging Markets Index. An estimated 1.16 trillion yuan of loans were invested in stocks in the first five months, China Business News reported on June 29, citing Wei Jianing, a deputy director at the Development and Research Center under the State Council, China’s Cabinet. The Hang Seng China Enterprises Index, which measures Hong Kong-listed shares of Chinese companies, dropped 2 percent today to 11,210.62. Bears announcing their arrival to the party |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:25 PM) Tanjong ... see the similarity Is this something to do with that shampoo?What's it called? Head and Shoulders? |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:31 PM
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Bought KNM @ 0.755...last minute change buy price..ahhaa
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Aug 19 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:25 PM) Tanjong ... see the similarity Mind to explain the similarity? Can't seem to catch it.If Tanjong drops to 13.xx, I will cancel my FD and buy the most expansive stock in my life. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 04:31 PM) Is this something to do with that shampoo? Double top at 16.00 which means 16.00 is a huge resistance. What's it called? Head and Shoulders? Similarity come from the pace of drop. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:34 PM
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ASW2020 6.3cents dividend...
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html alamak.. sorry, wrong forum.. This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 19 2009, 04:35 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 04:33 PM) Double top at 16.00 which means 16.00 is a huge resistance. Ah!Similarity come from the pace of drop. I see now. Many thanks. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:36 PM
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MA actually sometimes very good gauge as well, it can't run away too much its MA especially for long period one, like 50 days or 100 days.
Run away too much either on both side, correction need to come in, which often we see share price is moving in tight range of its MA. MA50 provide immediate support at around 14.30. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(speed7791 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:31 PM) China Stock Index Plunges, Briefly Enters Bear Market (Update1) some time later , entering greedy mode By Bloomberg News Aug. 19 (Bloomberg) -- China’s stocks fell, briefly driving the benchmark index into a so-called bear market, on concern tighter lending will damp economic growth. The Shanghai Composite Index lost 4.3 percent to 2,785.58, as China Shenhua Energy Co., the nation’s largest coal producer, sank 6.8 percent, the most since Feb. 18, and Citic Securities Co., the biggest brokerage, sank 7.8 percent. The gauge has slumped 19.8 percent since this year’s high on Aug. 4, after more than doubling from November’s low as China rolled out a 4 trillion yuan ($585 billion) stimulus package. A plunge in new bank loans in July, disappointing earnings and concern the government will seek to damp property market speculation has sapped confidence. “It’s irrational selling that has shattered market confidence,†said Larry Wan, Shanghai-based deputy chief investment officer at KBC-Goldstate Fund Management Co., which oversees about $583 million in assets. “Some mutual funds have been reducing their stock holdings as they are pessimistic about the economic outlook.†China Everbright Securities Co., which had the smallest first-day gain of any new stock in Shanghai this year, slumped by the 10 percent daily limit today. About 10 stocks fell for each that rose on the Shanghai index. “The Chinese market is very trend-oriented because there are many individual investors,†said Philippe Zhang, chief investment officer at AXA SPDB Investment Managers in Shanghai, which oversees about $220 million. “It can rally very quickly and go down strongly as well.†New Loans The Shanghai index, the third-best performing market in the world in the first seven months, remains 59 percent below its record level on Oct. 16, 2007. Stocks have slumped this month as new loans in July declined to less than a quarter of June’s level, the regulator allowed initial share sales after a nine- month moratorium and companies including Yunnan Copper Industry Co. reported losses. The gauge remains 53 percent higher this year. “The current correction is reflecting the tightening in lending,†said Andy Xie, a former Asian chief economist at Morgan Stanley, who correctly predicted in April 2007 that China’s equities would tumble. “We’ve seen the peak of this market cycle, though there’s likely to be a bounce as the government seeks to stabilize the market.†The market may extend its decline by another 10 percent, Xie said Aug. 17. Even with the recent decline, the Shanghai index is trading at 30.4 times reported earnings, against 17.5 times for shares on the MSCI Emerging Markets Index. An estimated 1.16 trillion yuan of loans were invested in stocks in the first five months, China Business News reported on June 29, citing Wei Jianing, a deputy director at the Development and Research Center under the State Council, China’s Cabinet. The Hang Seng China Enterprises Index, which measures Hong Kong-listed shares of Chinese companies, dropped 2 percent today to 11,210.62. Bears announcing their arrival to the party |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Aug 19 2009, 04:32 PM) Mind to explain the similarity? Can't seem to catch it. on early June, Tanjong fall approx RM1++, main reason is because funds are disposing it. the disposal activity took about 1-2 weeks.If Tanjong drops to 13.xx, I will cancel my FD and buy the most expansive stock in my life. now we are experiencing something similar. we have been coming down from RM16 to RM14.xx, so we have a rough idea when the disposal would cease and when to accumulate. me orr-pek-luan-kong nia, don't take it serious |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:39 PM
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Wah! Cherroy tai kor also know TA!
Really need to push myself to learn some TA... Hopefully, won't be QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 04:36 PM) MA actually sometimes very good gauge as well, it can't run away too much its MA especially for long period one, like 50 days or 100 days. Run away too much either on both side, correction need to come in, which often we see share price is moving in tight range of its MA. MA50 provide immediate support at around 14.30. Added on August 19, 2009, 4:40 pmMSPORT really sinking... Luckily no cash... This post has been edited by chyaw: Aug 19 2009, 04:40 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:37 PM) on early June, Tanjong fall approx RM1++, main reason is because funds are disposing it. the disposal activity took about 1-2 weeks. What is 'orr-pek'luan-kong nia'? Hokkien ker?? Hakka ker?? Cantonese ker??now we are experiencing something similar. we have been coming down from RM16 to RM14.xx, so we have a rough idea when the disposal would cease and when to accumulate. me orr-pek-luan-kong nia, don't take it serious Oh...that's the message....well....there is no ideal high and ideal low in stock lah....just buy at the price that I feel right....and after all Tanjong is meant for long term......hopefully it drops further.....say drop started on Monday....hmmm...maybe patient abit wait till mid-next week..... Added on August 19, 2009, 4:41 pm QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 04:39 PM) Wah! Cherroy tai kor also know TA! What is 'TA'? TA enteprise as in the famous stock broking house? Really need to push myself to learn some TA... Hopefully, won't be Added on August 19, 2009, 4:40 pmMSPORT really sinking... Luckily no cash... This post has been edited by cantdecide: Aug 19 2009, 04:41 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Aug 19 2009, 04:40 PM) What is 'orr-pek'luan-kong nia'? Hokkien ker?? Hakka ker?? Cantonese ker?? It's Technical Analysis. Oh...that's the message....well....there is no ideal high and ideal low in stock lah....just buy at the price that I feel right....and after all Tanjong is meant for long term......hopefully it drops further.....say drop started on Monday....hmmm...maybe patient abit wait till mid-next week..... Added on August 19, 2009, 4:41 pm What is 'TA'? TA enteprise as in the famous stock broking house? |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Aug 19 2009, 04:40 PM) What is 'orr-pek'luan-kong nia'? Hokkien ker?? Hakka ker?? Cantonese ker?? HokkienAdded on August 19, 2009, 4:41 pm What is 'TA'? TA enteprise as in the famous stock broking house? TA = Technical Analysis |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 04:43 PM) Hokkien Meaning please....I am not hokkien....thanks.TA = Technical Analysis |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM
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i buy nothing today!!
you guys buy alot? |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM
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Today Najib din send out reinforcement
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Aug 19 2009, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM) Today Najib din send out reinforcement like dat baru he can masuk stock mah |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM) Meaning please....I am not hokkien....thanks. Black White Simply Say |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 04:46 PM) Black White Simply Say lol that would make him lagi confused! |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM) Today Najib din send out reinforcement about ...? |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:47 PM
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only buy latexx. If nothing happen, this should be my last shopping item. cross fingers
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM) i buy nothing today!! you guys buy alot? |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM) i buy nothing today!! Small bit.....Boustead....10 lot at 3.6... you guys buy alot? Sekarang 3.57.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 04:47 PM) Small bit.....Boustead....10 lot at 3.6... Nvm, soon I will join you Sekarang 3.57.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 04:47 PM) only buy latexx. If nothing happen, this should be my last shopping item. cross fingers latexx price could jump up & down in big gaps (thats why i like her)if tonite dow closed in 3-digit loss again, be ready another 10-15 sens fall. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM
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KLCI -8.88 nice number.
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Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM
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Those who enter Msports early morning now crying
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Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM
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Buy for long term... unless price suddenly fly high high, then may do some swing trade for fun (that's why I cross fingers
).QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:49 PM) latexx price could jump up & down in big gaps (thats why i like her) if tonite dow closed in 3-digit loss again, be ready another 10-15 sens fall. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 19 2009, 04:48 PM) Nvm, soon I will join you i have been waiting for Boustead from 4.00, 3.80, 3.70, 3.60, now 3.57usually i do not have that long patience (yah, failure example, my Maybank) else i would save alot man! what is your ideal entry price? This post has been edited by panasonic88: Aug 19 2009, 04:52 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM) Buy for long term... unless price suddenly fly high high, then may do some swing trade for fun (that's why I cross fingers how high is high? ). |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:52 PM
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eh... makcik no more selling ar? besok ada datang lagi tak?
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Aug 19 2009, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM) KLCI -8.88 nice number. najib is hinting us |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM) i have been waiting for Boustead from 4.00, 3.80, 3.70, 3.60, now 3.57 No ideal entry price yet, still depends on the market. If the market is really having correction till October, then by September should start accumulating. In the meantime, just hope all my stocks holding wellusually i do not have that long patience (yah, failure example, my Maybank) else i would save alot man! what is your ideal entry price? |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:53 PM
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I prefer KLCI 1188. Better feng shui!
QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 04:51 PM) KLCI -8.88 nice number. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:54 PM
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Today bought some first...
if tomorrow drop again then buy another counter.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:55 PM
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More than 10% of my buying price than consider got meat to swing. Else, not interested.
QUOTE(espree @ Aug 19 2009, 04:52 PM) how high is high? This post has been edited by chyaw: Aug 19 2009, 04:57 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 04:54 PM) Today bought some first... how much money u allocate?if tomorrow drop again then buy another counter.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 19 2009, 04:53 PM) No ideal entry price yet, still depends on the market. If the market is really having correction till October, then by September should start accumulating. In the meantime, just hope all my stocks holding well Ya.....I am holding on to some stocks i hope can weather through if it is really correction.For now, I have decided to sit out until get an idea where this market is heading. I bought the Bstead expecting some support level at 3.60 since it drop from 4.00 all the way here. Seems not right... Anyway, will continue monitoring as still have bullets, albeit limited stock. |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:57 PM
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Need you to be more active in LYN! I'm reading less and less S'pore related news jor. Hopefully, you can give us some info from time to time
QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 04:54 PM) Today bought some first... if tomorrow drop again then buy another counter.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 04:57 PM
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The worst thing about days like today is that we got DoomCake to look forward to....coming out of his cave and being all bearish and gloating and that....
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Aug 19 2009, 04:59 PM
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DoomCake will be busy shorting US market again tonite.
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Aug 19 2009, 05:00 PM
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I like to see some bears and some bulls here... If only bulls here, I think it is time to dump all shares liao!
QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 04:57 PM) The worst thing about days like today is that we got DoomCake to look forward to....coming out of his cave and being all bearish and gloating and that.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 05:00 PM) I like to see some bears and some bulls here... If only bulls here, I think it is time to dump all shares liao! Well - at least he can short the market when he needs to..... |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(mv2r @ Aug 19 2009, 04:56 PM) how much money u allocate? Me ikan bilis buy 3 lot(1000) at a time only...QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 04:57 PM) Need you to be more active in LYN! I'm reading less and less S'pore related news jor. Hopefully, you can give us some info from time to time I am always here reading you guys post only... |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:06 PM
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the current downtrend is it because the fund managers are selling down, since KLK, Tanjong is significantly down. What is the reason?
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Aug 19 2009, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 19 2009, 04:46 PM) Black White Simply Say QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:47 PM) lol that would make him lagi confused! Wah!! Very chim......i think it simply means she simply say and don't take it blindly.....Well, it might just be the beginning of another drop....so sit tight and wait for the right time....hehehe.....hope Tanjong will drop further.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:07 PM
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I know you're always here reading silently. That's why need you to be more active on updating us on STI.
I had the feeling I will be less and less active in LYN soon... QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 05:05 PM) Me ikan bilis buy 3 lot(1000) at a time only... I am always here reading you guys post only... |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:45 PM) i buy nothing today!! These are my purchases today:- you guys buy alot? Southern Steel 6000x 1.65 = 9900 Bursa 500 x 7.8 = 3900 MRCB 3000 x 1.32 = 3960 WCT 2000 x 2.59 = 5180 QSR 3000 x 2.73 = 8190 TOTAL PURCHASE TODAY = RM31130!!! |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Aug 19 2009, 05:08 PM) These are my purchases today:- wah sai.....impressed.... Southern Steel 6000x 1.65 = 9900 Bursa 500 x 7.8 = 3900 MRCB 3000 x 1.32 = 3960 WCT 2000 x 2.59 = 5180 QSR 3000 x 2.73 = 8190 TOTAL PURCHASE TODAY = RM31130!!! sigh...it will be next lifetime until i get such amount to buy stock.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:10 PM
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Happy for you!
QUOTE(Neo18 @ Aug 19 2009, 05:08 PM) These are my purchases today:- Southern Steel 6000x 1.65 = 9900 Bursa 500 x 7.8 = 3900 MRCB 3000 x 1.32 = 3960 WCT 2000 x 2.59 = 5180 QSR 3000 x 2.73 = 8190 TOTAL PURCHASE TODAY = RM31130!!! |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:10 PM
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Btoto went down to 4.28 - i think this is even lower than Nov 2008 and March 2009
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Aug 19 2009, 05:11 PM
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$30K is not that much. Work hard and invest well, and you'll be there very soon.
QUOTE(cantdecide @ Aug 19 2009, 05:09 PM) wah sai.....impressed.... sigh...it will be next lifetime until i get such amount to buy stock.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(poker @ Aug 19 2009, 05:10 PM) Btoto went down to 4.28 - i think this is even lower than Nov 2008 and March 2009 Yup but not as low as a few days after the dividend ex and bonus. That time about few weeks back, drop to 4.24 lowest! |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 05:11 PM) $30K is not that much. Work hard and invest well, and you'll be there very soon. Use the mininum to earn the maximum |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:16 PM
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how long do you guys think this correction will last?
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Aug 19 2009, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 19 2009, 05:07 PM) I know you're always here reading silently. That's why need you to be more active on updating us on STI. This is a bad news for Espee taken from one of the people posting in channelnewsasia market talk forum...I had the feeling I will be less and less active in LYN soon... 0247 GMT [Dow Jones] CapitaLand (C31.SG) outperforms market tad as investors hope deployment of S$1 billion of capital to China, Vietnam and Ascott serviced residence businesses may lead to accretive deals. Shares +0.3% at S$3.64 vs STI off 0.3%, though thin traded volume suggests near-term upside likely capped at 10-day moving average of S$3.68. "The announcement provides a roadmap for capital redeployment following the rights issue earlier this year," says Deutsche Bank. Adds, "while we are disappointed that no acquisitions have been announced to date, this could be a prelude to a more aggressive stance on acquisitions at the 3 businesses." But says investments will likely be less earnings accretive than previously hoped as distressed opportunities are now more limited due to stabilization of financial markets. Maintains Sell rating with unchanged S$3.23 target price. (KIG) |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Aug 19 2009, 05:08 PM) These are my purchases today:- agrees on the use mininum to earn the maximum. Southern Steel 6000x 1.65 = 9900 Bursa 500 x 7.8 = 3900 MRCB 3000 x 1.32 = 3960 WCT 2000 x 2.59 = 5180 QSR 3000 x 2.73 = 8190 TOTAL PURCHASE TODAY = RM31130!!! any more shopping list for tomolo? just in case if market falls tonite. |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 19 2009, 05:16 PM) This is a bad news for Espee taken from one of the people posting in channelnewsasia market talk forum... Espree going to take aspirin liow. I bought at 3.71 0247 GMT [Dow Jones] CapitaLand (C31.SG) outperforms market tad as investors hope deployment of S$1 billion of capital to China, Vietnam and Ascott serviced residence businesses may lead to accretive deals. Shares +0.3% at S$3.64 vs STI off 0.3%, though thin traded volume suggests near-term upside likely capped at 10-day moving average of S$3.68. "The announcement provides a roadmap for capital redeployment following the rights issue earlier this year," says Deutsche Bank. Adds, "while we are disappointed that no acquisitions have been announced to date, this could be a prelude to a more aggressive stance on acquisitions at the 3 businesses." But says investments will likely be less earnings accretive than previously hoped as distressed opportunities are now more limited due to stabilization of financial markets. Maintains Sell rating with unchanged S$3.23 target price. (KIG) |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:22 PM
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Aurora97, your sin stock Jtinter is giving 15 sens dividend, as expected.
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Aug 19 2009, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 05:22 PM) Aurora97, your sin stock Jtinter is giving 15 sens dividend, as expected. |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:31 PM
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Got a feeling many shareholders are making tons of paper loss currently.
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Aug 19 2009, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(poker @ Aug 19 2009, 06:16 PM) how long do you guys think this correction will last? Sorry to said that only God know when it will last, Honestly, it really depend the market, and the confident of investors. Maybe next month, next week, or next day. But highly probably next week will over... |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:40 PM
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Those eat KFC one...You contributed to them making 15.98 sens per share EPS last quarter and they return to their shareholders 8sen of dividends...
Nice move by Neo18, QSR 4sen dividend. Hehehe Added on August 19, 2009, 5:43 pmKencana Petroleum....Those holding it....Tomoro probably rise on award of contract. http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...AA?OpenDocument This post has been edited by VyvernS: Aug 19 2009, 05:43 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 05:50 PM
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KLCI -8.88
Tomorrow sure "huat" ar. But then the index is 1155.53, loosely translated "will not survive daily" |
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Aug 19 2009, 08:36 PM
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Wah super fast new thread already page 17. Checking in
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Aug 19 2009, 08:53 PM
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Good evening folks!
Took a great nap.. now ready for some action tonight.. Wow! Nicely set.. ready for another bear raid! Well well well.. just as expected.. All eyes on RED CHINA! They just love RED don't they? From Asia to Euro to NorthAmerica. How about that? -20% drop for China so far, no doubt now they're in BEAR market. If you all have been looking at the SSE, there are more drops to come.. probably will like to go back to 200MA line at 2400. @ NYSE, the gains that the bulls took back yesterday will be wiped out today. Gen Bear and this army will continue this carnage. Furthermore, dark clouds and hurricanes are brewing at the same time at the Atlantic ocean and heading to the Gulf. What a great time! This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 19 2009, 08:53 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 19 2009, 08:53 PM) Good evening folks! Realistically speaking, no one would like BEAR season, not just stocks players like us. Imagine, the world is in deep recession, eventually you might be out of job as well. But then again, BEAR season is near as expected by many of the people, so it is time for us to accumulate more stocks.Took a great nap.. now ready for some action tonight.. Wow! Nicely set.. ready for another bear raid! Well well well.. just as expected.. All eyes on RED CHINA! They just love RED don't they? From Asia to Euro to NorthAmerica. How about that? -20% drop for China so far, no doubt now they're in BEAR market. If you all have been looking at the SSE, there are more drops to come.. probably will like to go back to 200MA line at 2400. @ NYSE, the gains that the bulls took back yesterday will be wiped out today. Gen Bear and this army will continue this carnage. Furthermore, dark clouds and hurricanes are brewing at the same time at the Atlantic ocean and heading to the Gulf. What a great time! |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:16 PM
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Finally, A Bearish View from Warren Buffett Himself:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32473352 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on August 19, 2009, 9:22 pm QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 19 2009, 09:07 PM) Realistically speaking, no one would like BEAR season, not just stocks players like us. Imagine, the world is in deep recession, eventually you might be out of job as well. But then again, BEAR season is near as expected by many of the people, so it is time for us to accumulate more stocks. It is funny you said that. If this is "expected by many", yet some already ask "Err.. how long will this correction last?" Look folks, IMO, we haven't even started yet (except for China). Don't ask for when it will end yet. If you're long, just look for those opportunities to buy the dips! If you're short (like me), let it ride down.. and reap the profits! Yes, China now is the leading indicator. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 19 2009, 09:22 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 19 2009, 09:16 PM) Finally, A Bearish View from Warren Buffett Himself: Well, I believe some do not see that the whole stocks is overbought. But most of us already anticipating for the drop. http://www.cnbc.com/id/32473352 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on August 19, 2009, 9:22 pm It is funny you said that. If this is "expected by many", yet some already ask "Err.. how long will this correction last?" Look folks, IMO, we haven't even started yet (except for China). Don't ask for when it will end yet. If you're long, just look for those opportunities to buy the dips! If you're short (like me), let it ride down.. and reap the profits! Yes, China now is the leading indicator. I'm long - so I am looking for the opportunities to buy on dips. hahahaa |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:40 PM
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bears sharpen their knifes
US now red red red This post has been edited by ! Love Money: Aug 19 2009, 09:40 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:42 PM
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-62.75 .... warming up huh? not as red as monday pun.
come on bear, show me what you have!!! |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 19 2009, 09:40 PM) bears sharpen their knifes Bears don't need knives. Bears just use their claws.. US now red red red slash swoosh rips.. the money bag out of those poor bulls. |
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Aug 19 2009, 09:45 PM
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well, as DMC said, china is leading the situation now...
so this is good indication for us that the correction is coming rather than worrying when it will come... at least this will keep us prepared during the next few weeks... |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 19 2009, 09:45 PM) well, as DMC said, china is leading the situation now... Yes.. at least you got that as the leading indicator and since China opens early. You got some edge there.so this is good indication for us that the correction is coming rather than worrying when it will come... at least this will keep us prepared during the next few weeks... Since most of you can't short. Go long with the stocks that are badly beaten but watch for those tops. Stagger your Buy, Don't jump all in. This is big mistake for those people catching falling knives. Good luck! Let's all make some  |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:07 PM
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DMC, you scare the bear away huh.
dow is crawling back to green soon... apa ini i tot i would expect a 3-digit loss neh. |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:07 PM) DMC, you scare the bear away huh. This is call head fake..MM do this all the time lah.dow is crawling back to green soon... apa ini i tot i would expect a 3-digit loss neh. First pull back.. get people to BUY..then release bad news.. SELL.. pocket difference. Great for short and long term traders here. Long: buy the dips Short: sell the long Sideliners: Can sit on their stagnant cash and cry. |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:12 PM
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LOL i hope you're right
happy making $$$$ ~~!!! |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:13 PM
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yah all eyes on China now...
so my question is... how low we expect China to go ? I remember Adam mentioned about breaking 3000, and now we are at 2785.. Unlikely to retrace to nov08 lvl which was 1800+. maybe Fallback to march 09 level @ 2071 ? any hints ? Euro and US not too bad tonight... just some bad earning reports when i was watching bloomberg just now.. tomolo will have employment figure... This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 19 2009, 10:15 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:12 PM) LOL i hope you're right Yes! As long as the market moves (up or down), we can make money! happy making $$$$ ~~!!! If the market stagnant.. boo!! who wants that? Right? |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:07 PM) DMC, you scare the bear away huh. If you’ve not yet gone short, don’t worry. Tomorrow’s (Thursday) performance gaming due to options expiration could very well offer you a good entry point.dow is crawling back to green soon... apa ini i tot i would expect a 3-digit loss neh. You see, August’s options expire on Friday. Because of this, traders who are underwater on their positions will try to push the market higher in order to close out their positions for a gain. Historically the day before expiration (Thursday) sees the largest market jumps as traders pile in pushing the market higher. In light of this, It would not at all be surprised if the S&P 500 rallies hard tomorrow. When and if it does, you should get a good entry point to establish some shorts. Once options expiration is over after Friday’s close, the fundamentals should take hold of the market again, pushing stocks lower. |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 19 2009, 09:43 PM) Bears don't need knives. Bears just use their claws.. Bear! slash swoosh rips.. the money bag out of those poor bulls. Ha! Don't make me laugh! I've seen more damage done by a dead sheep.... |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(tessei @ Aug 19 2009, 10:17 PM) If you’ve not yet gone short, don’t worry. Tomorrow’s (Thursday) performance gaming due to options expiration could very well offer you a good entry point. Right now! OpEx is witching day. Good volatility Good time to make Day Trade!You see, August’s options expire on Friday. Because of this, traders who are underwater on their positions will try to push the market higher in order to close out their positions for a gain. Historically the day before expiration (Thursday) sees the largest market jumps as traders pile in pushing the market higher. In light of this, It would not at all be surprised if the S&P 500 rallies hard tomorrow. When and if it does, you should get a good entry point to establish some shorts. Once options expiration is over after Friday’s close, the fundamentals should take hold of the market again, pushing stocks lower. VIX pumping high on this day! |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:07 PM) DMC, you scare the bear away huh. only the General Bear is shorting.dow is crawling back to green soon... apa ini i tot i would expect a 3-digit loss neh. The Bear Army refused to take orders from General Bear. Mutiny |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 10:13 PM) yah all eyes on China now... The falls in the Shanghai market do not reflect the health of the broader Chinese economy. so my question is... how low we expect China to go ? I remember Adam mentioned about breaking 3000, and now we are at 2785.. Unlikely to retrace to nov08 lvl which was 1800+. maybe Fallback to march 09 level @ 2071 ? any hints ? Euro and US not too bad tonight... just some bad earning reports when i was watching bloomberg just now.. tomolo will have employment figure... Rocketing and slumping has always been a characteristic of the Shanghai market. It took only one year for the index to rise from 1,664 to 6,124 points and vice versa. The Shanghai exchange is all but closed to foreign investors, while Chinese investors have few other options to place their money, since they cannot buy overseas shares. Consequently, this exchange is extremely volatile, |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:31 PM
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China is Going to Blow Up Authority in Beijing were walking in Alan Greenspan's footsteps in trying to inflate their country back to prosperity. Just as Greenspan held interest rates at historically low levels for far too long a time, inflating the housing bubble, China has done much the same. Chinese bank lenders have been saddled with quotas and "must lend" mandates little different than the free-for-all "we'll lend to anyone" mentality that fueled the housing bubble. China's version of the NINJA loan (no income, no job, no assets) is to throw sacks full of money at the collapsing manufacturer or exporter in the hopes of sustaining the unsustainable. And just as Greenspan's easy money spigot fueled an orgy of real estate speculation, Beijing's flood of cash has fueled an orgy of business speculation, with hundreds of billions in lent funds flowing into speculative commodity stockpiling and the Shanghai A shares market. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Aug 19 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 10:22 PM) The falls in the Shanghai market do not reflect the health of the broader Chinese economy. True. The Sharks (the govt run companies) are more deadly in China than in Malaysia.Rocketing and slumping has always been a characteristic of the Shanghai market. It took only one year for the index to rise from 1,664 to 6,124 points and vice versa. The Shanghai exchange is all but closed to foreign investors, while Chinese investors have few other options to place their money, since they cannot buy overseas shares. Consequently, this exchange is extremely volatile, They can manufacture news and financial statements as easily as they make toys in their factories. China can legislate any company into non-existence even foreign MNC company. Everyone watching RioTinto and see how they're going to play with the giant Panda on the recent issue. Therefore, most of us we don't trade China directly..but just use other tools that have China play indirectly. Disclosure: Your truly current play: FXI, TCK, HAO, CDII |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(tessei @ Aug 19 2009, 10:31 PM) China is Going to Blow Up Interesting article you quoted.Authority in Beijing were walking in Alan Greenspan's footsteps in trying to inflate their country back to prosperity. Just as Greenspan held interest rates at historically low levels for far too long a time, inflating the housing bubble, China has done much the same. Chinese bank lenders have been saddled with quotas and "must lend" mandates little different than the free-for-all "we'll lend to anyone" mentality that fueled the housing bubble. China's version of the NINJA loan (no income, no job, no assets) is to throw sacks full of money at the collapsing manufacturer or exporter in the hopes of sustaining the unsustainable. And just as Greenspan's easy money spigot fueled an orgy of real estate speculation, Beijing's flood of cash has fueled an orgy of business speculation, with hundreds of billions in lent funds flowing into speculative commodity stockpiling and the Shanghai A shares market. One difference that springs to mind is that China has CASH and the US has DEBT. Can you provide a link so we can read the complete article? |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 10:35 PM) Interesting article you quoted. Funny that you said that. Most Americans feel that since they're already in DEBT,One difference that springs to mind is that China has CASH and the US has DEBT. they have nothing else to lose but the DEBT itself. They just walk away. Chinese is losing sleep over their invested and hard earned cash because it is decreasing in value. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 19 2009, 10:41 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 10:35 PM) Interesting article you quoted. referOne difference that springs to mind is that China has CASH and the US has DEBT. Can you provide a link so we can read the complete article? http://www.taipanpublishinggroup.com/taipa...68&g=181&r=Milo But the one i highlighted they quoted from members of 'Macro Trader' which has been published 4 weeks ago. Found their webz. http://www.themacrotrader.com/ This post has been edited by tessei: Aug 19 2009, 10:59 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 19 2009, 10:41 PM) Funny that you said that. Most Americans feel that since they're already in DEBT, Well That's right. they have nothing else to lose but the DEBT itself. They just walk away. Chinese is losing sleep over their invested and hard earned cash because it is decreasing in value. In the case of mortgage defaults, Americans can just hand the keys back to the bank and walk away. Or simply declare personal bankruptcy. That's the last thing that China wants to see, I would have thought. if all the "queasing" doesn't work (and there's a very high probability that it won't) the next thing could well be a debt moratorium of some kind - not only in the US but the UK and Euro Zone as well. What price western currencies then? <That's where my baked beans and gold come in> |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 19 2009, 03:10 PM) Rcecap kena dispose kau kau on Monday.... the day i bought at high... hahaha wait for a powerful rebound my queue is 0.65 then 0.60 last shot... anything below i'll monitor from hospital already..Added on August 19, 2009, 11:04 pmTomorrow is chinese super virtual month hehee.. Its time to rumble against the news.. This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Aug 19 2009, 11:04 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:06 PM
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Oil prices jump on suprise draw down of US supply
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Aug 19 2009, 11:08 PM
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new IPO Today HALEX HOLDINGS BERHAD
sucking more investor money... together with Right Issue... seem they r eager to take our money before the market getting bearish again.. even mr. N & Mr O got limit when going to support market like this... that's why market fail to push the liquidity/volume past 1.2B since few weeks b4... only institution participation with little help from FF playing the blue chip.. |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 19 2009, 10:22 PM) The falls in the Shanghai market do not reflect the health of the broader Chinese economy. China is like a totally goreng market. Retailers are chasing or dumping in herd one, a lot of them treat stock market as casino table only. Rocketing and slumping has always been a characteristic of the Shanghai market. It took only one year for the index to rise from 1,664 to 6,124 points and vice versa. The Shanghai exchange is all but closed to foreign investors, while Chinese investors have few other options to place their money, since they cannot buy overseas shares. Consequently, this exchange is extremely volatile, That's why we always see it bubble and burst from time to time. It has been 3 times, China market facing this kind of stock market bubble for the last 10 years or so. My view only. |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 11:19 PM) China is like a totally goreng market. Retailers are chasing or dumping in herd one, a lot of them treat stock market as casino table only. China: a nation of gamblers that covers a vast territory in eastern Asia; the most populous country in the world That's why we always see it bubble and burst from time to time. It has been 3 times, China market facing this kind of stock market bubble for the last 10 years or so. My view only. |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:30 PM
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Bear angry liao...... got profit run first
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Aug 19 2009, 11:34 PM
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darn it....my oil counters has been plunging like hell:
40 lot KNM 60 lot Muhibah.... crazy losses....plz up again T.T |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Mika @ Aug 19 2009, 11:30 PM) Bear angry liao...... got profit run first hehe...that's a very cute pic! |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(Mika @ Aug 19 2009, 11:30 PM) Bear angry liao...... got profit run first Love this pic! |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 19 2009, 11:19 PM) China is like a totally goreng market. Retailers are chasing or dumping in herd one, a lot of them treat stock market as casino table only. china is the biggest las vegas in asia. everybody dumps money into it and speculate. eventually all will turn into nothing That's why we always see it bubble and burst from time to time. It has been 3 times, China market facing this kind of stock market bubble for the last 10 years or so. My view only. |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:54 PM
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Anyway, looks like we got a nice edge up from this morning carnage,
time for another dive for channel play. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 19 2009, 11:54 PM |
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Aug 19 2009, 11:57 PM
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shyt. dow is green straight up.........
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Aug 20 2009, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(mv2r @ Aug 19 2009, 11:57 PM) shyt. dow is green straight up......... Weak hands shaken up.. Shorts covered.Now.. if it goes higher again.. time for another shorting opportunity! |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:15 AM
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Dow 9,292.99 +75.05 +0.81%
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Aug 20 2009, 12:25 AM
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I wonder if local ONG will rally tomorrow..
so many reports today: Kencana - New contract awarded Alam Maritim - profit up & 0.5cents div Dialog - profit up & 2.4c div Pelikan's report also out. EPS 7.9cents Panasonic maintained 20c EPS QoQ others are Fareast, Mahsing, etc.. This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 20 2009, 12:30 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 12:25 AM) I wonder if local ONG will rally tomorrow.. Not sure about local market but Crude Oil got a short term boost today so many reports today: Kencana - New contract awarded Alam Maritim - profit up & 0.5cents div Dialog - profit up & 2.4c div Pelikan's report also out. EPS 7.9cents Panasonic maintained 20c EPS QoQ others are Fareast, Mahsing, etc.. with the larger draw of inventory number in US. This is only valid for this week. Therefore good for re-position if you think they will trace world crude price. It has been really interesting these past 2 weeks looking at Oil Price (Nymex). Oil tops at 70-72.. then back to 64-65 and back again to 70-72. They volley back and forth. This price channel allows traders (like yours truly) to trade oil in almost predictable manner. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 20 2009, 02:19 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(mv2r @ Aug 19 2009, 11:57 PM) shyt. dow is green straight up......... This is call head fake..MM do this all the time lah.First pull back.. get people to BUY..then release bad news.. SELL.. pocket difference. Great for short and long term traders like DoomCake Added on August 20, 2009, 12:54 am QUOTE(espree @ Aug 20 2009, 12:15 AM) Dow 9,292.99 +75.05 +0.81% @ NYSE, the gains that the bulls took back yesterday will be wiped out today.Nasdaq 1,967.14 +11.22 +0.57% Gen Bear and this army will continue this carnage. Furthermore, dark clouds and hurricanes are brewing at the same time at the Atlantic ocean and heading to the Gulf. What a great time! Added on August 20, 2009, 1:05 am QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 20 2009, 12:01 AM) Weak hands shaken up.. Shorts covered. Shorts covered?Now.. if it goes higher again.. time for another shorting opportunity! Must be these kind of shorts....  This post has been edited by David_Brent: Aug 20 2009, 01:05 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 01:16 AM
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Sometimes when people over short.. they've to cover big time.
Yours truly have done this. It is part of the game. But, by hedging a bit on the bull side for long. This helps to stop the bleeding. Now the market is going up. I'm letting my long side to ride up, and waiting for it to top, release some of my long position and I'll short again to ride on the pullback. No matter, I am still bearish because of the nature of the over-extended run. Good luck! |
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Aug 20 2009, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 20 2009, 01:16 AM) Sometimes when people over short.. they've to cover big time. Only pulling your leg dear chap!Yours truly have done this. It is part of the game. But, by hedging a bit on the bull side for long. This helps to stop the bleeding. Now the market is going up. I'm letting my long side to ride up, and waiting for it to top, release some of my long position and I'll short again to ride on the pullback. No matter, I am still bearish because of the nature of the over-extended run. Good luck! You well know my views about the coming debacle - and I agree with you: things are definitely extremely worrying and this dead cat bounce/bull trap (or whatever history will show it to be) makes no sense.... Looks like we can never under-estimate the power of The Bilderberg Group though.... |
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Aug 20 2009, 01:40 AM
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Mid day update:
DJ +77 @ 9295 (want to retest 9300) S&P500 +8.14 @ 997 (want to retest 1000) Feeling toppy...now. Interesting enough, the bear MM released this piece (which I'm sure many people already aware): http://www.cnbc.com/id/32474763 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Closing Bell: 9279.69 +61.75 +0.67% 1969.24 +13.32 +0.68% 996.58 +6.91 +0.70% Yesterday, we have sell off in CHINA! We better watch China! Oh well..So much for watching China! Instead, USA watched their Oil Inventory went down 8.4 million barrels. Oil is more important than anything else here. Oil bulls jumped and fired off the BUY button resulting Oil spiked up 4.5%.. now up to $72 (2 months high). The entire market jumped on Energy sector today. Who cares about housing and jobs, huh? Not all is bad.. at this price level, time to re-position my short for another entry. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 20 2009, 04:33 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Aug 19 2009, 11:34 PM) darn it....my oil counters has been plunging like hell: Will up today. Don't worry! 40 lot KNM 60 lot Muhibah.... crazy losses....plz up again T.T |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:12 AM
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Who wants to goreng wat today?
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Aug 20 2009, 08:22 AM
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You bought anything lately???
QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 20 2009, 08:12 AM) Who wants to goreng wat today? |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 08:22 AM) You bought anything lately??? Nope. Waiting forever for the pullback. How about you? Any new targets? |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 20 2009, 07:00 AM) Will up today. Don't worry! sounds super convincing! ahhaha thxAdded on August 20, 2009, 8:30 am QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 20 2009, 01:40 AM) Mid day update: haha i like ure opinions DJ +77 @ 9295 (want to retest 9300) S&P500 +8.14 @ 997 (want to retest 1000) Feeling toppy...now. Interesting enough, the bear MM released this piece (which I'm sure many people already aware): http://www.cnbc.com/id/32474763 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Closing Bell: 9279.69 +61.75 +0.67% 1969.24 +13.32 +0.68% 996.58 +6.91 +0.70% Yesterday, we have sell off in CHINA! We better watch China! Oh well..So much for watching China! Instead, USA watched their Oil Inventory went down 8.4 million barrels. Oil is more important than anything else here. Oil bulls jumped and fired off the BUY button resulting Oil spiked up 4.5%.. now up to $72 (2 months high). The entire market jumped on Energy sector today. Who cares about housing and jobs, huh? Not all is bad.. at this price level, time to re-position my short for another entry. actually we wouldnt need the housing bubble thing to happen again...just wait for 2012 when the election occurs again market will crash like crazy again...>.<This post has been edited by Mikiyo: Aug 20 2009, 08:30 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:36 AM
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bought Latexx yesterday by dumping all my Mulpha...
QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 20 2009, 08:25 AM) Nope. Waiting forever for the pullback. How about you? Any new targets? |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 08:36 AM) bought Latexx yesterday by dumping all my Mulpha... Yeah, I saw your comment on that yesterday. I want to start accumulating again but the bear keeps on losing. Haiyaaa....... |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 12:51 AM) Furthermore, dark clouds and hurricanes are brewing at the same time at the Atlantic ocean and heading to the Gulf. What a great time! |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 20 2009, 08:12 AM) Who wants to goreng wat today? ingredient (stock) pun belum decide, masak apa la |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 08:36 AM) bought Latexx yesterday by dumping all my Mulpha... dun worry! today market up latexx will earn u 1 month supply of coffee |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:59 AM
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RUBBER/GLOVES higher Q
LCL/MSports as well. Watch : DIALOG, ALAM |
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Aug 20 2009, 08:59 AM
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China Stocks to Rebound as Bear Market Won’t Last, Merrill Says
The Shanghai Composite Index fell 4.3 percent to 2,785.58 yesterday, 19.8 percent below the high on Aug. 4 and near the 20 percent bear-market threshold. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=afS6A5hZIQA4 |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 20 2009, 08:43 AM) Then, its good for OIL PRICE, coz Gulf of Mexico on ALERT level. Seems that it will hit Miami. hoorayy for oil |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 20 2009, 08:59 AM) RUBBER/GLOVES higher Q kencana too...LCL/MSports as well. Watch : DIALOG, ALAM |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:02 AM
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Msports rebounded.
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Aug 20 2009, 09:04 AM
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bought 100lots @0.785.....
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Aug 20 2009, 09:04 AM
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I don't drink coffee.
Anyway, you invest to earn money to buy coffee? If like that I should withdraw all my stocks now as I already got more than 1 yr coffee supply... QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Aug 20 2009, 08:57 AM) dun worry! today market up latexx will earn u 1 month supply of coffee |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:05 AM
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Morning....What happened to the Dow Bear Reinforcement? Seem like the Bull army manage to fight them off in New York...
So expecting some Bulls charging in around Asia today.. Now have to decide if wanna buy more Bstead. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:02 AM) Msports rebounded. yea, my average is 84cts.. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 08:36 AM) bought Latexx yesterday by dumping all my Mulpha... Latexx is better than Mulpha, isn't. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:07 AM
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IMO, for very long term, I believe Mulpha should give more gain than Latexx...
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:05 AM) Latexx is better than Mulpha, isn't. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:11 AM
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GLOVES counters recovering off low yesterday.
ALAM, DIALOG, KENCANA flying. SEALINK defensive.. ALAM = PROFIT, but the shareholders keep on disposing? |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:12 AM
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I really respect Kinstel... Price still moving up...
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Aug 20 2009, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 09:12 AM) I really respect Kinstel... Price still moving up... the price just doesnt reflect the actual situation. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:14 AM
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how come 2day all the buyers & sellers got a big gap between them?
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Aug 20 2009, 09:15 AM
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same goes to Gpacket...
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:13 AM) the price just doesnt reflect the actual situation. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:14 AM) how come 2day all the buyers & sellers got a big gap between them? all want fast UNTUNG.. yesterday got whack . |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 09:15 AM) same goes to Gpacket... yayaya, i also noticed that one. avoiding them by all means, even there is a chances for swing trade. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:17 AM
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Ok guys.. it is safe to buy stocks.
The govt won't let the market down anymore. Recession is over, no more fear, no more depression. Even Warren Buffett says so.. money is too cheap again, no good to hold cash. http://www.cnbc.com/id/32476270 |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:19 AM
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Msports damn hantu la! the price is so damn volatile!
not easy to make $$ from her! |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:20 AM
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Ooi Tai Kor! Don't be like that lar. How come you suddenly change from Bear to Bull?
I'm hoping for some check and balance here. QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 20 2009, 09:17 AM) Ok guys.. it is safe to buy stocks. The govt won't let the market down anymore. Recession is over, no more fear, no more depression. Even Warren Buffett says so.. money is too cheap again, no good to hold cash. http://www.cnbc.com/id/32476270 |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:21 AM
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Aug 20 2009, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:19 AM) Msports damn hantu la! the price is so damn volatile! Can be very easy to make money too if entry and exit timing is perfect. However the opposite is true also.not easy to make $$ from her! |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(kv165 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:23 AM) Can be very easy to make money too if entry and exit timing is perfect. However the opposite is true also. i feel uneasy making such money. skip. tak nak china pirate ship |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:19 AM) Msports damn hantu la! the price is so damn volatile! Oooiii....i thought u are eyeing Tanjong? Changed to msports already? Anyway, how's Tanjong doing?not easy to make $$ from her! |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:24 AM
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Like that I may need to sell all my stock by year end...
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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Aug 20 2009, 09:24 AM) Oooiii....i thought u are eyeing Tanjong? Changed to msports already? Anyway, how's Tanjong doing? makcik didnt open 2day:p |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:25 AM) makcik didnt open 2day:p belum buka stall ahmust be overwhelmed by yesterday, stock kena sapu habis. |
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CI pullback, caution.
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Huaan- one of my favourite stock upgraded
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 09:24 AM) Like that I may need to sell all my stock by year end... Why oil won't return to triple digitshttp://money.cnn.com/2009/08/19/markets/oi...ation/index.htm |
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QUOTE(kv165 @ Aug 20 2009, 09:23 AM) Can be very easy to make money too if entry and exit timing is perfect. However the opposite is true also. yesterday msports a bit shaken b'coz CI dropped.... today got strong support @ .780...... |
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For Genting Singapore Shareholders:
We initiate coverage on Genting Singapore (GENS) with a HOLD call and a DCFbased fair price of S$ 0.95/share, which implies a target 2011 EV/EBITDA of 12.7x. While we believe Resorts World Singapore (RWS) could trounce consensus forecasts in its maiden year as a casino operator in Singapore in 2010, a peakish market outlook could prompt investors to cash in following GENS’ 92.2% ytd price appreciation. We expect GENS to trade in the S$0.90-0.95 range, with the top end having already factored in continuity of the Singapore casino license and scarcity premium for comparable Asian gaming-consumer plays. As our target price has limited upside potential, we recommend HOLD with an entry price of S$0.80. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:40 AM
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Tanjong going up. I hope they havent finish disposing yet. My queue at 14.30..
Ahaha, itu dialog no power la... DowJones Newswires : OSK upgrades Pelikan to 2.00 from 1.85 This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 20 2009, 09:45 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 09:40 AM) Tanjong going up. I hope they havent finish disposing yet. My queue at 14.30.. Your Tanjong ABP??Ahaha, itu dialog no power la... Dialog Profit + Div > Alam still move slower  |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:46 AM
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Harta even worse... Profit double yet share price dropping...
QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 20 2009, 09:43 AM) Your Tanjong ABP?? Dialog Profit + Div > Alam still move slower |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:48 AM
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LCL running fastttttttt..
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Aug 20 2009, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 20 2009, 09:38 AM) For Genting Singapore Shareholders: Thank you for you info. We initiate coverage on Genting Singapore (GENS) with a HOLD call and a DCFbased fair price of S$ 0.95/share, which implies a target 2011 EV/EBITDA of 12.7x. While we believe Resorts World Singapore (RWS) could trounce consensus forecasts in its maiden year as a casino operator in Singapore in 2010, a peakish market outlook could prompt investors to cash in following GENS’ 92.2% ytd price appreciation. We expect GENS to trade in the S$0.90-0.95 range, with the top end having already factored in continuity of the Singapore casino license and scarcity premium for comparable Asian gaming-consumer plays. As our target price has limited upside potential, we recommend HOLD with an entry price of S$0.80. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 20 2009, 09:43 AM) Your Tanjong ABP?? rambutan : around 13.35, i bought at 13.5 and 13.2Dialog Profit + Div > Alam still move slower now im queueing 200 units to test test water only haha nvmd la, i can wait as long as no bad news from dialog.. |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 09:40 AM) Tanjong going up. I hope they havent finish disposing yet. My queue at 14.30.. Can share the link on the Pelikan?Ahaha, itu dialog no power la... DowJones Newswires : OSK upgrades Pelikan to 2.00 from 1.85 Like to do some reading...Me holding some paper on this company too... |
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Aug 20 2009, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 20 2009, 09:52 AM) Can share the link on the Pelikan? >____< sorry bro..Like to do some reading...Me holding some paper on this company too... i dont have the paper, i read it on newswires.. 1 line only... OSK clients may have the paper... |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 09:58 AM) >____< sorry bro.. No problem....Any OSK-ers there? Looking for this Pelikan paper. If have, can post up here? TQ... i dont have the paper, i read it on newswires.. 1 line only... OSK clients may have the paper...  |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:02 AM
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KNM finally moved!
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Aug 20 2009, 10:03 AM
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SSE Index +69.308
STI +24.67 Hang Seng Index +404.48 |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Aug 20 2009, 10:03 AM) SSE Index +69.308 today volume still -.-"STI +24.67 Hang Seng Index +404.48 |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 08:54 AM) ingredient (stock) pun belum decide, masak apa la That's why I ask you all ler.... give me some recipe maaaa.....Haiyaa... have to go out.... hope to see Mr. Bear later.... |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 10:20 AM) Ooi Tai Kor! Don't be like that lar. How come you suddenly change from Bear to Bull? in the past 2 months i observed the our daily product prices are increasing 5%. $$ become smaller and only those invest in stock (short to long term) or property (long term) will be benefited. I'm hoping for some check and balance here. ci tp at 2010: 1500 |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:08 AM
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i sense something with Sealink...
3 huge buy @ 0.75 + unusual queue size @ 0.745... This post has been edited by mopster: Aug 20 2009, 10:09 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 10:08 AM) i sense something with Sealink... how huge is huge sin? 3 huge buy @ 0.75 + unusual queue size @ 0.745... 50 biji is not consider huge leh. looks like Sealink support line at 74 sens. wanna buy back? |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:16 AM
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That's true! money become smaller and smaller everyday....
QUOTE(sampool @ Aug 20 2009, 10:08 AM) in the past 2 months i observed the our daily product prices are increasing 5%. $$ become smaller and only those invest in stock (short to long term) or property (long term) will be benefited. ci tp at 2010: 1500 |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:13 AM) how huge is huge sin? buyback ? only if falls back to 0.75 and below 50 biji is not consider huge leh. looks like Sealink support line at 74 sens. wanna buy back? not 50 lol, 359,449,659 |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:20 AM
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yah mopster, i wanna buy back Sealink if price is < 75 sens.
CI stand at 1160 now. hopefully could go north. |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:22 AM
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Why is harta keep dropping? overbought?
STI: 2,542.32 +19.54 HSI: 20,267.39 +313.16 This post has been edited by espree: Aug 20 2009, 10:27 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:26 AM
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Rambutan very sweet very latkang.
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Aug 20 2009, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 20 2009, 10:16 AM) That's true! money become smaller and smaller everyday.... There is money everywhere , do not know where to go.Buying up BEANS is one of the options. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 20 2009, 10:27 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:20 AM) yah mopster, i wanna buy back Sealink if price is < 75 sens. Sealink report may be out anytime, hope still can get at the price..CI stand at 1160 now. hopefully could go north. Uncle is eyeing yet another O&G Meanwhile, Alam and Dialog paper from Maybank. (nekobank ) |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:31 AM
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Sealink macam ala movements eh, mopster
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Aug 20 2009, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 10:29 AM) Sealink report may be out anytime, hope still can get at the price.. I was still wondering, if both venturing the same business, how come the prospect way way different? Uncle is eyeing yet another O&G Meanwhile, Alam and Dialog paper from Maybank. (nekobank ) Anyway, I do not think it is smart to get another O&G now. Esp there is news that oil price will not go 3 digits anytime soon |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:38 AM
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You need to look at the PER...
QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 20 2009, 10:32 AM) I was still wondering, if both venturing the same business, how come the prospect way way different? Anyway, I do not think it is smart to get another O&G now. Esp there is news that oil price will not go 3 digits anytime soon |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:38 AM
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He seems confident...
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Aug 20 2009, 10:41 AM
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guys, is it possible to move my accounts from one osk remisier to another osk remisier?
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Aug 20 2009, 10:48 AM
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looks like bear is coming out from the corner already...
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Aug 20 2009, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:31 AM) Sealink macam ala movements eh, mopster sealink sailed already...  hmm CI up but today's volume is lower compared to previous days.... usually by now should have 250+, now only 174m @jason, yeah both in O&G but they specialize in different aspect. maybe this will affect the prospect.. Alam does underwater services and ship while Dialog on petrochemical tank construction.. there are other factors to consider also like chyaw said per and political link maybe ? |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:55 AM
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My observation on gloves:
The recent run up was mainly due to the hyped up on the increase in demand of gloves with the H1N1 outbreak.The price increase of the various glove counters in the last two month ranges from 15% to 100% with the most significant increase seen in Adventa ,Latexx and Supermax. Assessing the current situation objectively,most of the rubber glove counters are already trading at PE of 15 and above.Forward PE varies, but some company's forward PE are expected to reduce gradually,this is due to expected increase earnings as a result of increase demands.Everyone is increasing their production capacities,will this eventually cause oversupply when H1N1 pandemic recedes? The excitement on rubber gloves,just like those theme plays that happen in the past in Bursa,will eventually fade off.and I personally already see the fever subsiding now. I believe that there is not much meat to gain if one were to buy glove counters at the current level,there is actually higher risk of getting stuck at high prices. I hope my observation is wrong and everyone please do not be influenced.Just ignore what I said and continue with what you are doing.I wish you making lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ This post has been edited by lklatmy: Aug 20 2009, 11:11 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 20 2009, 10:55 AM) My observation on gloves: 1001% agree. The recent run up was mainly due to the hyped up on the increase in demand of gloves with the H1N1 outbreak.The price increase of the various glove counters in the last two month ranges from 15% to 100% with the most significant increase seen in Adventa and Supermax. Assessing the current situation objectively,most of the rubber glove counters are already trading at PE of 15 and above.Forward PE varies, but some company's forward PE are expected to reduce gradually,this is due to expected increase earnings as a result of increase demands.Everyone is increasing their production capacities,will this eventually cause oversupply when H1N1 pandemic recedes? The excitement on rubber gloves,just like those theme plays that happen in the past in Bursa,will eventually fade off.and I personally already see the fever subsiding now. I believe that there is not much meat to gain if one were to buy glove counters at the current level,there is actually higher risk of getting stuck at high prices. I hope my observation is wrong and everyone please do not be influenced.Just ignore what I said and continue with what you are doing.I wish you making lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ It is fairly easy to set up a glove plant and the Capex is low. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 20 2009, 11:05 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ Aug 20 2009, 10:41 AM) guys, is it possible to move my accounts from one osk remisier to another osk remisier? y not? |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(mv2r @ Aug 20 2009, 11:01 AM) y not? guys, any osk remisier to recommend? pm me thanks |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 20 2009, 10:22 AM) Why is harta keep dropping? overbought? Amazing...HARTA drops KINSTEL rises... STI: 2,542.32 +19.54 HSI: 20,267.39 +313.16 The market is a wonderful thing.... Added on August 20, 2009, 11:14 am QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ Aug 20 2009, 11:02 AM) guys, any osk remisier to recommend? pm me thanks I'm with OSK at SS2 and I cannot recommend any of them...... This post has been edited by David_Brent: Aug 20 2009, 11:14 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ Aug 20 2009, 11:02 AM) guys, any osk remisier to recommend? pm me thanks I rather look for one who is learned than Cheap.There is a very good one in this thread. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Aug 20 2009, 11:17 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ Aug 20 2009, 11:02 AM) guys, any osk remisier to recommend? pm me thanks osk remisier recommends stock based on their feeling |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:20 AM
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Msports under heavy selling pressure, dropped to 0.76!!
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Aug 20 2009, 11:23 AM
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Huaaaa... msport really selling down ... red alert
Added on August 20, 2009, 11:23 amwhy everybody running.. mostly retail investor .. This post has been edited by lsmpro80: Aug 20 2009, 11:23 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:20 AM) Msports under heavy selling pressure, dropped to 0.76!! did u dump yours this morning ?? |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM
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out of curiousity
i typed & googled "bad month for stock market" this is what i get: OCTOBER! CODE October is not a good month historically for stocks and the stock market. It can be said that the stock market has crashed three times and each of those disasters happened in October make sure you are aware of this, fellow investors. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:20 AM) Msports under heavy selling pressure, dropped to 0.76!! I don't understand how a company can IPO at 0.85 and then drop 0.10 in the first day. Does it mean that all those investors who applied and got the shares at 0.85 suddenly decided to throw the stock and lose 10 cents a share the day that trading started? |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM
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more than 10 consecutive selling... gosh.. must be something wrong is it?anyone having insider news
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Aug 20 2009, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM) out of curiousity Let's abolish October then and call it September V2 i typed & googled "bad month for stock market" this is what i get: OCTOBER! CODE October is not a good month historically for stocks and the stock market. It can be said that the stock market has crashed three times and each of those disasters happened in October make sure you are aware of this, fellow investors. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 11:24 AM) did u dump yours this morning ?? nope, even at 0.80, losses will be circa 450RM |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM) out of curiousity But normally festival they will goreng a bit right? this month is puasa month, then next month is Raya Month..after that.. October..no festivals..ekkeke i typed & googled "bad month for stock market" this is what i get: OCTOBER! CODE October is not a good month historically for stocks and the stock market. It can be said that the stock market has crashed three times and each of those disasters happened in October make sure you are aware of this, fellow investors.  |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM) I don't understand how a company can IPO at 0.85 and then drop 0.10 in the first day. rumour said the shareholders gets a way much "cheaper cost" than the IPO price. Does it mean that all those investors who applied and got the shares at 0.85 suddenly decided to throw the stock and lose 10 cents a share the day that trading started? So they can afford to dump, and at the same time, they get fat pockets $$$$$$ |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:28 AM) rumour said the shareholders gets a way much "cheaper cost" than the IPO price. Don't you go to jail for doing that?So they can afford to dump, and at the same time, they get fat pockets $$$$$$ |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM) I don't understand how a company can IPO at 0.85 and then drop 0.10 in the first day. exactly, how come the IPO successful applicant wanna throw lower that their price? Might as well simply buy any share then sell it @ lower price. No logic at all, unless some sifu can teach me.Does it mean that all those investors who applied and got the shares at 0.85 suddenly decided to throw the stock and lose 10 cents a share the day that trading started? |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 11:29 AM) Don't you go to jail for doing that? aku tak tau hearsay hearsay |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM) i typed & googled "bad month for stock market" We have Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter season in a yearthis is what i get: OCTOBER! CODE October is not a good month historically for stocks and the stock market. It can be said that the stock market has crashed three times and each of those disasters happened in October make sure you are aware of this, fellow investors. September & October is in Fall season, so stock market also fall lor. May be people interpret like this way. Just my nonsense talk. |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:25 AM) out of curiousity I think it is coincidence only. Many actually reported or said the same thing last year when the market somewhat crashed. Anyway, as long as money can be made in share market.....who cares.... i typed & googled "bad month for stock market" this is what i get: OCTOBER! CODE October is not a good month historically for stocks and the stock market. It can be said that the stock market has crashed three times and each of those disasters happened in October make sure you are aware of this, fellow investors. Well, back to today. Looks like Tanjong is moving away from my RM13.xx...sigh....Now...back to hunting and more research on next stock to consider.....any other good fundamental stock that is beaten down at the moment? |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:30 AM) aku tak tau major shareholders cannot sell shares for 6 months upon listing. hearsay hearsay You have lobang to get cheap shares ? |
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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Aug 20 2009, 11:30 AM) I think it is coincidence only. Many actually reported or said the same thing last year when the market somewhat crashed. Anyway, as long as money can be made in share market.....who cares.... Genting? Well, back to today. Looks like Tanjong is moving away from my RM13.xx...sigh....Now...back to hunting and more research on next stock to consider.....any other good fundamental stock that is beaten down at the moment? BJTOTO? |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:31 AM) major shareholders cannot sell shares for 6 months upon listing. but hor, why i see Handal shareholders dump their shares on the 1st day of listing.You have lobang to get cheap shares ? can check back from announcemnet. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:32 AM
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7121 : Also under heavy selling pressure. Another china pirate ship?
Morning up +0.055, now -0.055 |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:29 AM) exactly, how come the IPO successful applicant wanna throw lower that their price? Might as well simply buy any share then sell it @ lower price. No logic at all, unless some sifu can teach me. The people whom throw can be those 'failed goreng' people which has high hope for first day IPO goreng. Try to make money in quick goreng, fail, then dispose lor. <--- which happen quite norm, and which is good discipline to obey in gorenging. Once wrong, cut. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 20 2009, 11:30 AM) We have Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter season in a year September & October is in Fall season, so stock market also fall lor. May be people interpret like this way. Just my nonsense talk. That's why it's better to call 'Fall' "Autumn" |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 11:34 AM) That's why it's better to call 'Fall' "Autumn" Still can hold??? |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:35 AM
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how many % of shares one need to own before the name is shown on "changes in shareholders" list ??
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Aug 20 2009, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Aug 20 2009, 11:30 AM) Well, back to today. Looks like Tanjong is moving away from my RM13.xx...sigh....Now...back to hunting and more research on next stock to consider.....any other good fundamental stock that is beaten down at the moment? Still Tanjong & Qcapital for me at the moment. May be Makcik will open rambutan stall in the afternoon, morning just rest time, has not woke up yet, after yesterday good business, selling so many. Added on August 20, 2009, 11:37 am QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 20 2009, 11:35 AM) how many % of shares one need to own before the name is shown on "changes in shareholders" list ?? 5% stake will start to classified as substaintial shareholder, by then any transaction need to declare, even buy/sell 1 share.This post has been edited by cherroy: Aug 20 2009, 11:37 AM |
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:32 AM) but hor, why i see Handal shareholders dump their shares on the 1st day of listing. I think China one like XQ cannot. can check back from announcemnet. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(cubic @ Aug 20 2009, 11:35 AM) What you think about KNM?? and LCL??? Dropping like.... KNM and LCL both up today - no? Still can hold??? |
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 11:37 AM) KNM and LCL both up today - no? Both up by 0.02 |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:16 AM) I rather look for one who is learned than Cheap. who? my current 1, call din pick up, sms ignore.... not professional at all..... ask for intraday form, 1 month still ignore..... There is a very good one in this thread. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:40 AM
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Axiata is climbing. Financials coming out soon?
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Aug 20 2009, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 11:37 AM) KNM and LCL both up today - no? should dump my LCL at 0.87 for no profit no loss (BE)better use the fund for SEALINK |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 11:32 AM) Genting? and GenMBJTOTO? Added on August 20, 2009, 11:44 am QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 20 2009, 11:35 AM) Still Tanjong & Qcapital for me at the moment. Hope to see Qcapita back to RM0.90. May be Makcik will open rambutan stall in the afternoon, morning just rest time, has not woke up yet, after yesterday good business, selling so many. This post has been edited by espree: Aug 20 2009, 11:44 AM |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:45 AM
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do you guys feel that CI is getting greener, but your stock aint moving much
yesterday's Top Loser (KLK & Tanjong), become Top Gainer for today, which also contributed the most weight to push CI upwards. hmm. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:46 AM
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When a company apply for listing,one of the condition that SC MAY impose is a moratorium on major shareholders not to sell their shares for a specific period.This condition is normally imposed on Mesdaq(now ACE) counters ,Overseas companies and some main board companies.
The easiest way to get around is to park the shares under friendly parties before the IPO.Now you know why there's lots of seller even below IPO price! Telling too much trade secret liao,not good for the industry,may end up at Kamunting. : |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:45 AM) do you guys feel that CI is getting greener, but your stock aint moving much Today. yes.Some days CI red but my counters UP. Those are the best days... |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:45 AM) do you guys feel that CI is getting greener, but your stock aint moving much yeah when it red my stock terjun.yesterday's Top Loser (KLK & Tanjong), become Top Gainer for today, which also contributed the most weight to push CI upwards. hmm. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 20 2009, 11:46 AM) When a company apply for listing,one of the condition that SC MAY impose is a moratorium on major shareholders not to sell their shares for a specific period.This condition is normally imposed on Mesdaq(now ACE) counters ,Overseas companies and some main board companies. Wouldn't the SC investigate if they suspected something like that?The easiest way to get around is to park the shares under friendly parties before the IPO.Now you know why there's lots of seller even below IPO price! Telling too much trade secret liao,not good for the industry,may end up at Kamunting. : |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:51 AM
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7,960 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:45 AM) do you guys feel that CI is getting greener, but your stock aint moving much yesterday's Top Loser (KLK & Tanjong), become Top Gainer for today, which also contributed the most weight to push CI upwards. hmm. +7 points boh lasa, volume also low... QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 20 2009, 11:46 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « "post rating" still not working ? so many good posts i want to rate... |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 20 2009, 11:46 AM) When a company apply for listing,one of the condition that SC MAY impose is a moratorium on major shareholders not to sell their shares for a specific period.This condition is normally imposed on Mesdaq(now ACE) counters ,Overseas companies and some main board companies. like dat, they are making a loss, bukan?The easiest way to get around is to park the shares under friendly parties before the IPO.Now you know why there's lots of seller even below IPO price! Telling too much trade secret liao,not good for the industry,may end up at Kamunting. : |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:51 AM
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most staying sidelines waiting for clearer signals
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Aug 20 2009, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:51 AM) like dat, they are making a loss, bukan? Maybe they have 'A' shares and 'B' shares |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 20 2009, 11:50 AM) Wouldn't the SC investigate if they suspected something like that? So far,none!QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 11:51 AM) like dat, they are making a loss, bukan? Loss?what loss?Nominee (major share holders) selling at below IPO price,still making mah,albeit lesser. |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 20 2009, 11:51 AM) most staying sidelines waiting for clearer signals No umph until now... |
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Aug 20 2009, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Aug 20 2009, 11:56 AM) So far,none! Oh i got it! sorry mind stucked! Loss?what loss?Nominee (major share holders) selling at below IPO price,still making mah,albeit lesser. shareholders buying price is below IPO price. IPO is for public. |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:01 PM
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cHYAW.. any reports to read ? anyone ?
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Aug 20 2009, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:01 PM) cHYAW.. any reports to read ? anyone ? apa report u mau? today has Alam Maritim & Tan Chong Motor liport only. |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:03 PM) apa report u mau? today has Alam Maritim & Tan Chong Motor liport only. anything... cause its too free while watching the figure can do some read up .. do you have it ? i dont mind reading it .. and check it out..pana |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:07 PM
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read some news lor
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Aug 20 2009, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:07 PM) read some news lor \\Thank you very much .. |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:12 PM) \\ http://research.uobkayhian.com/research/co...07467020499.pdfThank you very much .. got regional session one... |
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Aug 20 2009, 12:50 PM
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I'm retiring...
Hibernating until next "spring". Can get a lot of reports from many ppl here. Nowadays, I normally just delete those research papers that I received unless those that I'm holding... QUOTE(lsmpro80 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:01 PM) cHYAW.. any reports to read ? anyone ? |
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