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post Aug 26 2009, 10:27 PM

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guys,

is that normal for a700, when i see in camera screen, it is white in color but when transfer to computer, it is a lil bit bluish .. argh ... i am penin with my wb problem .. sad.gif .. i am not sure either it is because of settings or my hardware problem .. ;( ..
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post Aug 26 2009, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 26 2009, 10:27 PM)
guys,

is that normal for a700, when i see in camera screen, it is white in color but when transfer to computer, it is a lil bit bluish .. argh ... i am penin with my wb problem .. sad.gif .. i am not sure either it is because of settings or my hardware problem .. ;( ..
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ohh .. i just realize that i was using florescent WB with external flash gun but without flash gel .. If i am not mistaken, albnok was selling flash gel last time and I bought from him orange one for tungsten WB with flash .. for florescent, i think, I need green color right? .. hurmm ..

oh man .. i still cant figure out either problem with my a700 or just settings .. damn it .. sad.gif .. i dont like this feel of dissatisfactions ... sad.gif ..
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post Aug 26 2009, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Aug 26 2009, 10:37 PM)
oh.. mitmivec.. i got my beloved 50mm from him.. okey i'll ask him.. probably considering getting the Tamron 17-50 from him too.. or shall i get CZ?? or 16-105??? arrrrr
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how much is it? i mean .. 50mm .. is it 1.8 or 1.4?
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post Aug 26 2009, 11:07 PM

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guys,

this is experiment i did just now with a700+1680cz under florescent light

1. built-in flash fired. AWB
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2. built-in flash fired. florescent WB
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is that normal to get this kind of quality of WB from a700? I am using vivid creative style and the settings are same albnok one .. sorry, i cant check what is the setting because i am recharging my battery ..

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post Aug 27 2009, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Aug 27 2009, 12:01 AM)
I've finally gone to the darker side.. a700 smile.gif

Purchased it from Sony Center Pyramid @ RM 2900. Last unit fresh out of the box. The only one left now is the display set. Opened the seal right in front of me.

at first wanted to get the a700+bg from a forumer, but last minute decided to go for a new set with full warranty.. less headache in the future.
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wow .. congrat .. nice price u got there .. i got myself at 3.2k ... dem .. rm300 different is alot .. sad.gif ..

btw, can you do me a favour bro? ..

try to snap something with built in flash on and set to florescent WB under florescent light .. and snap .. and make sure the color/wb on your camera screen is good (white is showing white in camera screen) .. and then transfer to pc and check .. does it same or it is actually a lil bit bluish .. smile.gif .. thanks in advance bro ..

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post Aug 28 2009, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 27 2009, 11:08 AM)
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Seng_Kiat: The A700 screen is a bit warm when viewed straight on, but accurate when viewed at a slight angle.

Yes, orange gel for tungsten, green gel for flourescent.

Aiyaaa no wonder lah. If you use flouro WB (4500K M6) with neutral 5500K flash you get a blue-ish, magenta-ish flash!

ALL of http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/afham07/DSC00957.jpg is lit by the flash, and none by the flourescent light because you have underexposed your ambient light. (F8 1/30s ISO200). If you went the other way, say F2.8 1/30s ISO1600, you will get more flourescent light (and you'd get a more neutral white.) So your flash should've used a green gel.

Also, remember that flourescent light flickers according to your house AC (Alternating Current, 50 Hz) so you'll want to use a slower shutter speed if you are shooting without flash.

Try shooting 10 frames at 5FPS F2.8 ISO1600 1/1000s while aiming at a flourescent tube (at night) - you'll see how it varies. Either you totally kill ambient light by shooting F8 1/30s ISO200, or you maximize ambient light at F2.8 1/30s ISO1600 (depending on how bright your flouros are lah.) However it is obvious due to the flicker, that is why studios do not use flourescent tubes!

* Flourescent tubes come in different color temperatures. They are not always 4500K M6. Some are daylight-balanced flourescents (great!) and some are tungsten-balanced flourescents (2800K or 2800K M3). Some mamaks mix flourescent and tungsten light so I pick 2800K M6 for that.
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Hi albnok,

I run another test .. Test is under florescent light with F58 on body (no flash gel, etc) ..

Settings: Manual Mode
Aperture: f4.5
Speed: 1/3
ISO: 320
Creative Style: Vivid 0 +1 +3 -2 -1
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honestly, i dont understand on how to use color temperature WB. I know, there is common Kelvin WB in the first post of this thready but i have no idea on how it works... what is the color filter? there are a few numbers like 0 M1-M9 .. Thanks ..

Edit:
I tested with Kelvin WB on the first page .. I found that if I shoot with flash on, it will give more natural wb (accurate WB) if compared to no flash.. does it mean, Kelvin WB is for flash on? am i right?

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post Aug 29 2009, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Aug 29 2009, 09:34 PM)
can anyone here share with me albnok's vivid profile setting for a700? i can't seem to find the setting that i like..
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vivid 1 3 -2 -1 .. smile.gif .. if i am not mistaken, he does not own a700 but he uses this settings on his a900 .. smile.gif ..

btw, what lens do u have? .. wink.gif ..
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post Aug 29 2009, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Aug 29 2009, 09:39 PM)
yea.. he doesn't anymore.. used to have an a700.. now a900..

using sal16105 now.. traded my siggy 24-70 with a forumer.
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would u mind to post a photo taken by your a700 + 16105 without any pp? .. smile.gif ..

do u change any settings in your a700? .. smile.gif ..
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post Aug 30 2009, 05:54 PM

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guys,

Kelvin WB settings as below:
Common Kelvin White Balance Settings :
2500K - very strong orange tungsten light
2800K - strong orange tungsten light
3200K - yellowish tungsten light
4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it)
5500K - flash
6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light)
9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light

Does it only give the correct WB when flash is on? am i right?

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post Aug 31 2009, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 31 2009, 01:50 AM)
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Seng_Kiat: The Kelvin WB settings list, only applies for ambient light. If you use flash, you must put a color-correction gel on the flash to match the ambient light.
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oh, so that means, I need flash gel no matter what WB I use (except AWB)? Kelvin WB is for without flash or with flash .. sorry for been noob but i really have no idea.
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post Aug 31 2009, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(ahtsong @ Aug 31 2009, 01:52 PM)
how can stop buying..u still not having beercan and SAL16105 in ur line up
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what a statement. i love it . hahaha ..
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post Sep 3 2009, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(invisibl3boyz @ Sep 3 2009, 10:53 PM)
guys...tumpang lalu again ... another question...why sumtimes my shot , blur ..even though my focus point alrdy on it... and the 'beep' sounds also come out d.. but after captured, blur...infact...the background more clearer thn the subject....coNfusiNg....
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oh, when talking about beep sound, I have question here. why my a700 does not produce any sound when it focusing the subject? is there any way to enable it? .. smile.gif .. thanks .
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post Sep 5 2009, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 5 2009, 01:52 AM)
Anyone heard about Maybank Treat Fair at Sony Style on tomorrow and Sunday? Tho se who has Maybank Credit card and Maybank ATM card (the cherry one) entitled to get 10% discount of Alpha main unit. And 20% discount for accessories (lenses, flash etc.).

Is this the right time to buy at Sony Style? What say you?
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anyone can confirm this? it is for all maybank card entitle 20% for lenses? not limited to sony mbb card only? .. wink.gif .. if yes, i might getting 50 1.8 .. wink.gif ..


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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 5 2009, 12:20 PM)
Comfirm already... I asked them and they said all alpha accesories can get 20% discount rclxm9.gif


Added on September 5, 2009, 12:20 pmBut must use Maybank Card only ler..
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all maybank card right? not only sony card? .. wink.gif ..



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post Sep 6 2009, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(hokc77 @ Sep 5 2009, 11:43 PM)
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my new toy.....

20% discount using any Maybank credit card.
nett after discount = RM479.
+ can discount further using your credit card points thumbup.gif

promotion ends tomorrow.
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eh, where u get it from? ah .. damn it .. i went to the curve yesterday night and salesman told me no discount for allpha lenses .. damn it !! ..
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post Sep 6 2009, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 6 2009, 09:33 AM)
There must be a mistake, you should just said to them that in KLCC and Times Square got 20% off for lenses. Better go buy today bro biggrin.gif
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ah damn it !!! .. i want it but i am working now .. ah ah ah!! .. shit .. haha ..
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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ Sep 6 2009, 11:38 AM)
WOAAHHH... scary~~ i'll definitely must avoid this guy... eh... got photo ar?
thinking of going to KLCC today... tempted to buy this lens also la macha!
ahemm.. if i really really really went there... i'll call u up kay!
but why u wanna this grip? u haf a vg rite? hmmm...
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din, I also want .. buy for me please ..

any1 got din contact number? .. pm me please .. biggrin.gif .
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post Sep 6 2009, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(hkhk @ Sep 6 2009, 02:39 PM)
I mean the 20% for the lens.
They have the treat fair poster there. but not the 20% for alpha accesssories.
btw, If the 12month  extended warranty applies for the lens purchase with SONYCARD?

THey say the extended warranty is only for Camera body. Wanna call to KL and ask first. So later can argue with them .
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emm ..

i also did not see any 20% word on the flyers .. sad.gif ..

btw, I am going to KLCC or times square around 5:30pm .. do you think they have a lot of stock for 50mm 1.8 at 20% off of original price? .. biggrin.gif .. rm479 is really attractive offer that i cant lepas .. biggrin.gif ..


Added on September 6, 2009, 2:49 pmoh, btw, I can use new maybank atm card that has anggur/apple on it right to get 20% off? .. i just scare if my maybank cc is almost over the limit .. tongue.gif ..

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post Sep 6 2009, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(hkhk @ Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM)
Make sure your account got enough $$. Too bad I cannot use my ATM card, it's only RM14 left..
For my case, the JB store don't have stock. But If I make the payment today, I still get the 20% off.
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thats mean i still can use ATM card as long as enough money right? .. biggrin.gif .. if that is the case, then it should be fine .. wink.gif ..

QUOTE(countdracula @ Sep 6 2009, 03:12 PM)
yesterday, KLCC out of stock for 50f1.8 but dunno if they restock today
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oh man .. damn .. not a good sign .. shit .. sad.gif ..

any1 can confirm this? are they restocking today? ..
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QUOTE(signither @ Sep 6 2009, 03:28 PM)
just give them a call la seng_kiat nod.gif
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Called din d and he confirmed got stock for 50mm 1.8 and also your grip .. heheheheh .. tongue.gif ..

will be heading there after work today and hope i can get it .. yesterday i went to the curve to get 50mm 1.8 but the sales person told me no discount on alpha product except body .. sad.gif ..
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Sep 6 2009, 04:46 PM)
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oh man ... stop poisoning me .. I am calculating the time .. biggrin.gif ..

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