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TSsamuelkk
post Aug 16 2009, 10:07 AM, updated 17y ago

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Hi there,

I noticed that there is no topic at all for Discus Fish so I created one for discussion on it. Before I continue further, I would like to introduce my self. I am currently working in Genting and I had an aquarium in my hostel. Up to date, I had succesfully spawn and has free swimming discus babies which I sold them to the local fish shop near Ampang.

At the moment, I had 6 adults discus which they called it as Marboro Red.

So any of you guys there need any help on discuss breeding or interested in rearing discus, please ask it here.

Cheers.. brows.gif

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post Aug 16 2009, 02:06 PM

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Hello, I post 6 picture 1st for now.

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TSsamuelkk
post Aug 16 2009, 03:19 PM

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Wow. Lots of discus there.. Are you a fish shop owner or discus breeder?
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post Aug 16 2009, 04:38 PM

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Unfortunately, none of those, my friend breed them in large scale.
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The more reply the more picture I'll post =)
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post Aug 16 2009, 11:04 PM

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I used to keep discus as well.
A pair formed out of the 14 fish and spawned twice.
But unfortunately the eggs never hatch.
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post Aug 16 2009, 11:20 PM

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Oh, well, my friend there every week also can see babies biggrin.gif
I'll ask him when I meet him.

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post Aug 19 2009, 01:47 PM

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It is not easy to spot the difference between male and female of discus as their color and patterns ranging from blue, blue-greenish, orange to red.

When I was 15, I have managed to successfully bred them from young fry to adulthood.

What I normally do is that I use 2.5 feet tank, and did some fish pairing, based on trial and error using aquarium partitions supported with suction disc.

The males are often more brightly colored compared to females. You need to spot them closely.

If you get a successful pairing, the fish will lay eggs on hard, cylinder shaped surface, which is placed vertically. A 3 inch to 3.5 inch size PVC pipe placed vertically is good enough. Use white colored PVC pipe so it is easy to spot the egg cluster.

The egg clusters are bright orange colored. Avoid provoking or agitating the fish. If threatened the pair of fish will ate all the eggs.

When the eggs hatches, the fry will feed on the mucus on the parents scales, and both parent take turns in feeding and nurturing the young. The young will swim side by side with the parents to feed. At this point, you might want to switch off the water filter, to prevent some young fry to sucked in. The water must be well air-circulated with tiny air bubbles to maintain constant oxygen level. Some will also die naturally in the growing up process. Again avoid provoking or agitating the fish, the parent will eat the young if it felt life threatened. You can feed the fry with daphnia, a micro-organism, the parent may go on hunger to concentrate on nurturing.

It takes 4 to 5 weeks for the fry will take its adult form, which is the size of 20sen coins. When they reaches the size of 50sen coin the young can be separated from the parent and will grow up healthily.
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very concise info rclxms.gif
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post Aug 19 2009, 02:39 PM

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can i.. mix them with guppies?
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post Aug 19 2009, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(blitzboy @ Aug 19 2009, 01:47 PM)
It is not easy to spot the difference between male and female of discus as their color and patterns ranging from blue, blue-greenish, orange to red.

When I was 15, I have managed to successfully bred them from young fry to adulthood.

What I normally do is that I use 2.5 feet tank, and did some fish pairing, based on trial and error using aquarium partitions supported with suction disc.

The males are often more brightly colored compared to females. You need to spot them closely.

If you get a successful pairing, the fish will lay eggs on hard, cylinder shaped surface, which is placed vertically. A 3 inch to 3.5 inch size PVC pipe placed vertically is good enough. Use white colored PVC pipe so it is easy to spot the egg cluster.

The egg clusters are bright orange colored. Avoid provoking or agitating the fish. If threatened the pair of fish will ate all the eggs.

When the eggs hatches, the fry will feed on the mucus on the parents scales, and both parent take turns in feeding and nurturing the young. The young will swim side by side with the parents to feed. At this point, you might want to switch off the water filter, to prevent some young fry to sucked in. The water must be well air-circulated with tiny air bubbles to maintain constant oxygen level. Some will also die naturally in the growing up process. Again avoid provoking or agitating the fish, the parent will eat the young  if it felt life threatened. You can feed the fry with daphnia, a micro-organism, the parent may go on hunger to concentrate on nurturing.

It takes 4 to 5 weeks for the fry will take its adult form, which is the size of 20sen coins. When they reaches the size of 50sen coin the young can be separated from the parent and will grow up healthily.
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Very good information. Please show us more biggrin.gif

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post Aug 19 2009, 04:30 PM

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the information above is obviously a very well kept secret among those who bred the fish commercially. Like the flowerhorn, and blood-red parrot fish, is from the cichlid family and it is a mix-breed. So far I have no idea how the blood-red parrot was bred.

Once you have got the idea of breeding the discus, it is amazingly simple. All it takes is the time you need to wait until you get a pairing and they start mating.

I am now looking at some ways to breed arowanas (sorry a bit off topic), I might consider it as an investment for side business apart from my mainstream income.

FYI I am now working fulltime and don't spend much time on aquariums, breeding discuss was 14 years back. In those years I did it out of a hobby, and discovered it naturally. At that time internet was just starting to get popular, and nothing was documented i don't even have a digital camera and only my memory is the best information that I can count on and share with all of you.


Added on August 19, 2009, 4:51 pm
QUOTE(OctoberFly @ Aug 19 2009, 02:39 PM)
can i.. mix them with guppies?
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yes, you can.

But for breeding purpose, do not mix them with other fish.

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post Aug 19 2009, 07:26 PM

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One good advice from my breeder friend who experience the field for close to 25 years now, arowana good money but sometimes doesnt sell well, discus on the other hand always got stable demand.
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post Aug 21 2009, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Aug 16 2009, 11:04 PM)
I used to keep discus as well.
A pair formed out of the 14 fish and spawned twice.
But unfortunately the eggs never hatch.
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Did not spawn? Ermmmm, probably both of the discus is female. happen to me before. haha.. If you notice there is spawning, might be you could try to use metalyne blue. It will protect the eggs being infected with fungus also dont forget to use wire mesh to protect the eggs from being eaten by their parents too.

Cheers~


Added on August 21, 2009, 2:21 am
QUOTE(blitzboy @ Aug 19 2009, 01:47 PM)
It is not easy to spot the difference between male and female of discus as their color and patterns ranging from blue, blue-greenish, orange to red.

When I was 15, I have managed to successfully bred them from young fry to adulthood.

What I normally do is that I use 2.5 feet tank, and did some fish pairing, based on trial and error using aquarium partitions supported with suction disc.

The males are often more brightly colored compared to females. You need to spot them closely.

If you get a successful pairing, the fish will lay eggs on hard, cylinder shaped surface, which is placed vertically. A 3 inch to 3.5 inch size PVC pipe placed vertically is good enough. Use white colored PVC pipe so it is easy to spot the egg cluster.

The egg clusters are bright orange colored. Avoid provoking or agitating the fish. If threatened the pair of fish will ate all the eggs.

When the eggs hatches, the fry will feed on the mucus on the parents scales, and both parent take turns in feeding and nurturing the young. The young will swim side by side with the parents to feed. At this point, you might want to switch off the water filter, to prevent some young fry to sucked in. The water must be well air-circulated with tiny air bubbles to maintain constant oxygen level. Some will also die naturally in the growing up process. Again avoid provoking or agitating the fish, the parent will eat the young  if it felt life threatened. You can feed the fry with daphnia, a micro-organism, the parent may go on hunger to concentrate on nurturing.

It takes 4 to 5 weeks for the fry will take its adult form, which is the size of 20sen coins. When they reaches the size of 50sen coin the young can be separated from the parent and will grow up healthily.
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Totally agree with blitzboy. Normally after pairing, not only you need trial and error, the discus parents also need trial and error. Normally, it will only sucessful after few times of spawning.

To prevent the parents from eating the eggs, use wire mesh until it is free swimming. Besides that, I would recommend bottom free tank for the discus's babies.It is easier to maintain and clean.

As what blitzboy said, you will need a good oxygen level to have a happy discus because discus loves warmer water (27 - 30 Degree Celcius). When the temperature in the water is that high, it will not only kill most of the bacteria but also will kill your discus. Warmer water will have lesser oxygen in it.


Added on August 21, 2009, 2:23 am
QUOTE(OctoberFly @ Aug 19 2009, 02:39 PM)
can i.. mix them with guppies?
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I dont know if we could keep it with guppies. Ermmmm, normally we keep discus with angel fish or neon tetras.


Added on August 21, 2009, 2:26 am
QUOTE(JustExotic @ Aug 19 2009, 07:26 PM)
One good advice from my breeder friend who experience the field for close to 25 years now, arowana good money but sometimes doesnt sell well, discus on the other hand always got stable demand.
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Yarh. There is always a demand for discus. On the other hand, discus spawn quite frequently. Approximately about few times a month. Get about 6 (2.5") young discus. Slowly grow it and most likely you will have about 1 or 2 pair of discus when they are adult.

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post Aug 21 2009, 05:46 AM

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QUOTE(JustExotic @ Aug 21 2009, 05:46 AM)
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justexotic, your fren is selling any discus.. thinking of getting 2 more. what types of discus does he have anyway?
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If me work in Genting, I'll keep CRS. Save a lot without the chiller. Haha.
Anyway, I have few discus in home.
The size quite small even 1 year plus (pale blue colour), only have 2 adult (redish with strip on body) but never breed, maybe both female or male gua.
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QUOTE(hihi @ Aug 21 2009, 05:13 PM)
If me work in Genting, I'll keep CRS. Save a lot without the chiller. Haha.
Anyway, I have few discus in home.
The size quite small even 1 year plus (pale blue colour), only have 2 adult (redish with strip on body) but never breed, maybe both female or male gua.
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Lol. Totally agree with you on the CRS. Haha. Wow. Good luck on your discus. Now my discus also got some problem d. Always goes hiding. Not sick or anything. Just scare of the movement outside the tank. Thinking of new approach. tried to sit in the tank for 1 hour each day and it is getting better d.

Btw, it is really hard to differentiate between male and female discus. Need to see the dorsal fins. Try to google it and you will find alot of help and topic available in the web.

Cheers.
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use to have alot.... almost 20 tanks...

then gave all away.. hahaha
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post Aug 22 2009, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(samuelkk @ Aug 21 2009, 08:50 AM)
justexotic, your fren is selling any discus.. thinking of getting 2 more. what types of discus does he have anyway?
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He have a vast variety, come Penang, I'll take you to his place smile.gif
Can come here and holiday too.

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