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This Article From No Nonsense Muscle Building, Vince Delmonte

Part 1 of 7 :The Advertisements Only Tell Part of the Story...


Well, I hope I’m not going to shock anybody – but at least it is now official. The U.S.
Federal Trade Commission has published a report that states weight loss adverts are
generally a pack of lies! You can find the entire article at this link: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/features/wgtloss.pdf.

I could have told you that from personal experience – but here are a few extracts
from the FTC reports that were written by Richard Cleland, Walter Gross, and
Paula Kurtzweil Walter:
‘Ads for billions of dollars of diet products and services sold each year often include
false, misleading and exaggerated claims that promise rapid, effortless weight loss
and unachievable goals, according to a government report released yesterday.’
...
‘With nearly 70 million Americans trying to lose weight or to prevent weight gain at
any given time, these rampant, deceptive claims not only waste money but also place
some consumers at risk.’
..
‘We have known for some time now that there is a serious problem with weight-loss
product advertising,’ said FTC Chairman Timothy J. Muris. ‘This report demonstrates
the extent of that problem.’
..
‘At least 40 percent of the 300 ads reviewed in the two- year study made at least one
false representation, such as ‘can eat as much as you want and still lose weight’ ...
‘More than half of the ads either made false statements or statements that were
very likely to be false, including the suggestion that pounds could be shed without
cutting calories and increasing physical activity, and the promise of a steady weight
loss of eight to 10 pounds per week.’
..
‘Other ads made unproven claims about safety and effectiveness, and still others
purported that their products produced long-term permanent weight loss, when
there was little to support that claim.’
..
‘It appears that too many unscrupulous marketers are making false claims promising
dramatic and effortless weight loss to sell their products.’
..
‘As with cigarette smoking and alcohol abuse, false or deceptive advertising of
weight-loss products and services puts people at risk.’

‘Many of the products and programs most heavily advertised are at best unproven
and at worst unsafe.’
..
Here’s an actual example of an advert they reviewed...
‘Amazing Fat Fighting Diet Pill Produces an Extremely Fast Weight Loss..... Even
if You Cheat or Refuse to Diet’ Obviously untrue, but before you laugh too hard,
doesn’t that sound just like the muscle gain adverts we see for BS weight gain/steroid
alternative supplements all over certain websites and magazines? The reason I
included the above report is because many of these same companies that create fat
loss products also create weight gain and ‘muscle building’ products.

I wonder what conclusion the FTC would come to if they did a review of “weight gain”
supplements? You have probably seen some of the ridiculous claims yourself. Things
like, “Gain 5 Pounds in 8 days On This 3rd Generation Creatine,” or “Scientifically
proven to gain muscle...” or “Put 2 inches on your arms in one month...” and thousands
of other claims made by supplement companies to push their products on you.
And of course if you dispute any of their claims, they will quickly show a ‘scientific’
study and some dude in a lab coat that ‘proves’ it works.

The reality is that advertisements only tell you a part of the story.
Remember that advertising is all about selling – sometimes at the cost of truth and
morality. Marketers are geniuses when it comes to getting us to buy. They are trained
professionals and know exactly how to provide obscure details and words, allow us to
fill in the blanks and read in between the lines.

They pry on your emotions and cling to your despair and want you to have faith
in the best situation possible so that you will buy their product. They suggest that
Product A can help you achieve a desired result. Product A can shift your body into
metabolic overdrive, or can help you build mountains of muscle. They never state
that it will. They make outrageous exaggerations beyond our wildest dreams and suggest
almost magical results. If you have a problem, they will provide a solution.
Supplement companies’ priorities are quite simple – create a profitable product. They
will go to great lengths to get you to buy their product. This misleading, more accurately
– untrustworthy - information is everywhere.

The misinformation about supplements is fueled by the fitness magazines themselves
and results in the root problem. Many people (including myself when I first entered
the bodybuilding world), especially beginners, have no idea that these fitness
magazines also own supplement companies. Some magazines are created for the sole
purpose of building a vehicle to sell their supplement line.

It is now literally impossible to obtain an unbiased and objective viewpoint of the
product because of the conflicting interest.
Can you imagine a supplement company
publishing an article called “Don’t waste your money on Supplement X” and then trying
to sell supplements on the next page with a full-page advertising spread!
If only truthful, useful, and factual information was printed in muscle magazines it
would be difficult to fill their pages each month. Magazines would be reduced to 10%
content and 90% advertising (some magazines are close to this ratio already!) A quality
magazine would be reduced to a quarterly publication or a bimonthly publication at
best.

This would be financial suicide because money made from these magazines is not from
subscriptions or newsstands sales but from the supplement advertisers. A reduction in
magazine publications means a reduction in income from advertising sales. Less advertising
equals less supplement sales and the sick cycle continues.


Added on August 14, 2009, 9:48 pmPart 2 of 7 :The Supplement Companies Don’t Want You To Read This...

To be honest, this content is going to scare them, if they know you are reading this.
Not only am I about to reveal to you their most trusted secrets but I’m going to show
you how to create your own supplement routine.
Did you know that you can create your own and even more potent
supplements (and spend less money doing it) out of basic
supplements, instead of purchasing overpriced ones?
The supplement industry has discovered how to become rich very quickly. They operate
on a series of ‘little known’ rules that everyone follows and nobody questions.
Unfortunately there are not many high quality companies or products that are created
from scratch. They do not sell on volume and deception so have lower sales and can
not afford multi-million dollar advertising campaigns. Not to mention – a good product
is going to cost more – so their product can not compete on cost.

Did you know that 60% of new weight training routines fail in the first 3 months
and that 90% of diet programs fail in the first 3 months? Interestingly, many workout
programs and transformation competitions are based on a 12-week plan!?
Coincidence?


Not even close. I personally call this ‘The 3–Month Rule,’ and is something many fitness
companies have been aware of since this statistic was released. I am not sure if
The 3 Month Rule is the official title for this phenomenon but it will do. The 3–Month
Rule states that the average person will join a gym, buy some exercise equipment,
buy some reading literature, start a new diet, buy some supplements and quit by the
3rd month!
Why do they quit? I would say it’s because they are not getting what they were promised
– results. It’s really simple – no results equal no motivation.

Why spend more time and money if you are not getting anything in return? This means that fitness
companies really have no incentive to create products that work.
The only goal is to create a product that works partially and keeps them coming
back for more, and to suck up as much of your money as possible in that three month
period. Big deal if their product does not work. There will be another herd of mooing
cattle moving in for the “slaughter” and this allows the company to continue this
cycle over and over while making a lot of money in the process.
Another rule is the
“Repeat Rule.” Even if the product has no influence whatsoever
but the trainee experienced some gains, they won’t want
to mess with a good thing and will keep buying the product.
And most likely the supplement had nothing to do with their gains – most likely it had
something to do with their training intensity, program, diet or sleep.
Don’t underestimate the power of the mind. If I gave you a red pill packaged in a
impressive looking bottle (the pill is actually filled with salt but you don’t know this)
and told you this would skyrocket your strength in the next month, I would not be surprised
if your strength actually went up the next month! The power created by your
mind could actually be responsible for the real results!


Added on August 14, 2009, 9:51 pmPart 3 of 7 :So You Want To Create Your Own Supplement Company? It’s Easier Than You Think!

Most companies get their products from a contract manufacturer. A contract
manufacturer is basically a company that has the tools and equipment to get the materials
needed for a specific product, and is able to put the product together. Supplement
companies would approach a large manufacture for a bulk order of a specific
product they wanted to create.

So if you wanted to create your own supplement company you would contract with
one of these manufacturers. You would decide on your product name and label, and
then have the supplier formulate your product. You’re now in business.
Pretty much all the creatine and other popular supplements are created by a few
major companies around the world that are responsible for producing mass quantities.
Since you are about to go into business you can buy it from one of these major companies
and they will formulate it for you under safe conditions.

Next, throw your company label on the package, hire some supplement reps, pay lots
of money in advertising and pack the shelves with your new product.
As a new supplement company, you now have the job of creating a ‘story’ that will sell your product. Are you going to choose a Before and After campaign, create a “10– page Special Fat Loss Report” or reveal some “New Scientific Breakthrough” your
team has just discovered? Maybe you will call up one of your current clients, who happens
to be a Professional Bodybuilder, and have him write about how great Product X
works for him - and pay him a ton of money to lie. Your advertising artillery is endless.

And if you want an “Advanced” or “Cutting Edge” product then you’d better add a
few ‘extra’ ingredients that make your product better! You know these ‘extra ingredients’
do nothing for your customer but it will make your advertisement more exciting!
Finally, once the supplement is formulated your real task is selling the product. Your
most profitable bet is to begin with exaggerated and bogus claims that are more
accurately described as downright lies.


Don’t forget to aim your adverts to young bodybuilders between the ages of 15-25
where the greatest percentage of sales comes from. This group is impatient
and eager to put on the most size possible in the speediest fashion. It is this group
that is the easiest to convince and impress the most. It is this group
that is the most gullible to the deception.


Don’t forget to ‘back up’ your product claims with ‘scientific studies’ and provide
vagueness such as, “an independent university study suggests...” It is necessary to
state the name of the university in case a customer wanted to investigate the study’s
accuracy and claims.

But that is the least of your concerns because how often do readers have time to
cross-reference the listed scientific references? Most of your customers will just take
your advertisement’s word at face value.


Added on August 14, 2009, 9:55 pmPart 4 of 7 : If It’s Published In Black And White It Must Be True

Ever notice that virtually every magazine company owns a supplement company? I
guess a little light switched on when magazine owners discovered that they could
increase their bottom line far more by selling supplements instead of magazine subscriptions.
Now, whenever you look into a fitness magazine, you will be bombarded
with a publication that is more interested in selling supplement products than providing
a quality magazine.
And since you can believe everything that you read in print – magazine publications
take advantage of their ‘mega-credibility’ and have lead us to believe that
everything is true - because you can’t print a lie, right? Anything in print must be
true, right?
Don’t these magazines have to meet certain ‘government regulations?’ Guess again.
Most people will believe anything that is printed in a ‘reputable’ and nationally circulated magazine.
It makes sense why magazines are the perfect vehicle for promoting supplements.


Ever wonder why advertising ads look more like articles these days? Have you ever
noticed how many magazine articles are about the ‘latest’ and ‘greatest’ new ‘breakthrough
formula’ in supplements? These 5-page ‘reports’ are not really ‘articles’ at
all but adverts in disguise. And how convenient - an 800 number at the end for easy
ordering!

And even if a magazine publication does not have its own supplement line you still
can’t trust the company to reveal the whole truth. Remember, deep-pocketed companies
pay tens of thousands of dollars to advertise in these magazines.

Do you think the editorial department would run an article series on “Supplements
don’t work” and offend their loyal advertises who help them stay in business? You will
never see a magazine article that bashes supplements and then on the next page
issue an advertisement promoting the same supplements that were just bashed.

Magazine companies are not going to burn bridges with advertisers who are paying
thousands of dollars for one page, full color ads.

It would be foolish for magazine companies not to promote supplements like crazy –
whether they work or not – because it creates a very profitable system. The more
supplements sold, the more advertising that can be created.
The more advertising
created, the more supplements sold – and naive and desperate consumers are fueling
this cycle.

So I’m screaming this as I type –
DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!


Question everything. Learn to discern. Use your own intuition and instincts. Use common
sense and your own good judgment. Make logical and not emotional buying decisions.
Just because it’s in print does not means it’s true. As the old saying goes, if it is too
good to be true...it probably is!


Added on August 14, 2009, 9:57 pmPart 5 of 7 : Do I Need All the Recommended Supplements?

No. You do not need any supplements at all to use this program. The No Nonsense
program has been designed to be effective without the use of supplements because
of the nutrient dense meal plans. However, you will notice the meal plans do include
protein shakes and this is a safe exception.
In a perfect world where you could live in your kitchen all day, protein shakes would
not be necessary and you could consume 200-400 grams of protein each day without
protein powder. However, this is very unlikely for 90% of people.

Here is a little test which is not mandatory but quite powerful to show you the
role of supplements:

Eliminate all supplement intake (including protein powder, multi vitamin and creatine)
for the first month to prove to yourself that you can make tremendous muscle
gains with training, nutrition and sleep alone. THEN...start introducing supplements
gradually and monitor the effect.

On top of that, do not use of any supplements until you have gained at least
10 pounds of good quality weight from just whole food. Food is far more anabolic than
supplements. This will be a powerful learning experience.
Remember that you do not need supplements to gain muscle, and taking them does
not automatically mean muscle gain and fat loss. Supplements are simply there to
help, not take the place of a good diet and training regime. If you are not gaining
muscle mass, supplements are not the answer. You need to monitor your training,
nutrition, mental attitude and recuperation strategy to figure out what needs optimizing.
Once you get all of these components in check then you will start to gain muscle
mass. Genetics and your effort will determine how much and how fast.

In fact, I only introduce certain supplements into my program when my training
has hit a 90 % threshold – meaning I have honestly implemented all the other training
principles I have shared and have approached a minor halt in progress. THEN,
we will consider the introduction of certain supplements as they can potentially
make a 1-5 % difference in your overall results.


There are many supplements on the market - fueled by large marketing budgets to
gullible people looking for an edge - but natural supplements have huge obstacles to
overcome in replacing whole food. They do not work in your digestive system or function
with proper life in your bloodstream therefore the effect is very low.
You must be very careful about which supplements you use (if any) and you need to be
educated on which brands are the most reputable. I personally believe that if you focus
your effort on high-quality whole food, the need for supplementation is minimal.
After all, for a supplement to be sold over the counter the FDA requires it to be from
a ‘food’ source.


Added on August 14, 2009, 10:11 pmPart 6 of 7: Recommended Supplements

Here are a select number of supplements that have similar benefits to whole foods
and function well with your digestive system and body’s means for optimal function.
The following are acceptable supplements that are beneficial for aiding in muscle
growth, fat loss and overall health.
If you take me up on my test, these are the supplements that you should introduce
after you gain your first 10-20 pounds of quality muscle weight with just food alone.
However, if you wish to start with supplements right from the start of your program,
these are the ones that are acceptable and recommended for the rest of your life as
well:

I. Antioxidants, Antioxidants, and more Antioxidants

What the experts say about Antioxidants:
“The amount of antioxidants that you maintain in your body is directly
proportional to how long you will live.”
- Richard Cutler M.D.

“Scientists now believe that free radicals are causal factors in nearly every
known disease, from heart disease to arthritis to cancer to cataracts. In fact,
free radicals are a major culprit in the aging process itself. By controlling
free radicals, antioxidants can make a difference between life and death, as
well as influence how fast and how well we age.
- Lester Packer, Ph.D.

“Scientists’ understanding of the benefits of vitamins have rapidly advanced,
and it now appears that people who get enough vitamins may be able to
prevent such common chronic illnesses as cancer, heart disease and
osteoporosis.
All adults should take a multivitamin daily.”
- Journal of
American Medical Association

“Powerful antioxidants like lutein and xeaxanthin (from tomatoes) may protect against
coronary-artery disease, cataracts, macular degeneration and cancer.” - Time Magazine
Antioxidants can cut your risk of heart disease up to 70%, diabetes 40%,
lung cancer 30% and breast cancer 20% studies show.
Many leading
authorities now urge all adults to take a daily supplement.”
- USA Today

What are Antioxidants?
Antioxidants are your body’s first line of defense to fight off ‘free radicals’ that
are created from exposure to smoking, second-hand smoke, pollution, sunlight,
chemicals in our food and physical and mental stress. These ‘free-radicals’ are responsible
for damaging our human cells and can lead to degenerative diseases and
aging.


The best way to increase your antioxidant level is twofold -
eat more fruits and vegetables and take a high-quality
multivitamin supplement.


The National Cancer Institute recommends eating 6-10 serving of fruits and
vegetables per day and the American Medical Association is now recommending
that everyone take a multivitamin supplement daily.

Do you want optimal prevention or optimal function?
Since your training goals are more ambitious than the general population I would
suggest doubling or even tripling your multivitamin dosage during periods of intense
training. Assuming an adequate diet most nutritionists do not recommend that people
take supplement antioxidants in the form of vitamins and herbs. I believe this advice
is far too conservative and casual in the quest to build muscle.
Traditionally, nutrition recommendations have been based on prevention of deficiency.
Since you are reading this I know you are interested in more than prevention – you are
interested in optimal function.

Tips:
· Build up to a minimum of 500-1000 mg of Vitamin C and 400 IU of Vitamin E as a
good first step to antioxidant protection.
· In addition, the daily ingestion of 1-3 cups of green tea will provide both antioxidant
benefits as well as cancer-fighting and thermogenic effects. In addition,
ginkgo biloba, grape seed extract, and pine bark extract may all promote similar
antioxidant effects with a host of other health benefits.



II. EFA ’s
I still remember the day when I discovered that there were two types of fat – and one
of them was actually very good for you! I had no clue that 80% of North Americans
were deficient in essential fatty acids or EFA’s. Personally I found it hard to believe
that there was actually good fat that would speed up your metabolism, reduce inflammation
in the body, and decrease your risk of heart disease, stroke or cancer.
There are three main groups of fat. Saturated fat is considered the ‘bad’ fat
and most commonly associated with animal products.
These fats are usually
derived from animal products. Most monounsaturated fats are derived from plants
and are most commonly associated with olive and canola oils – these are considered
your vegetable oils.
Polyunsaturated fats are also mainly derived from vegetable and fish
oils.
EFA’s can not be made in the body like saturated fat so they must be supplied
in our diet. Since our bodies don’t have the ability to make them, the amounts of
Omega 3’s or 6’s found in the body are largely a function of what we eat. Omega 3’s
are mainly found in fish oil, flaxseed oil, canola oil, walnut oil, and green leafy vegetables.
Omega 6’s are mainly found in vegetable oil, corn oil, safflower oil, sunflower
oil, peanut oil, and sesame oil.
Interestingly, the fats from animal products (meat, dairy, and eggs) that we usually
think of as being all saturated can also provide some polyunsaturates. The level of
polyunsaturates and the ratio of 3’s to 6’s is entirely dependent on what the animals
are fed. Animal feed high in corn will produce animals that have high Omega 6 fats.
Animals fed natural grasses will be high in Omega 3s.


Tips:
· Since Westerner’s are already high in Omega 6, during all training phases, make a
conscious attempt to eliminate the Omega 6 polyunsaturates from your diet while
simultaneously increasing your Omega 3’s, mostly in the form of fish/salmon oils
(DHA, EPA) and some flax seeds, and some flax oil. This increase in 3’s, as well as
the more favorable ratio of 3’s to 6’s, can potentially increase insulin sensitivity
in muscle, decrease it in fat, reduce body fat, decrease muscle damage and soreness,
and decrease disease or injury-induced inflammation.
· Replacing saturates with monounsaturates in the form of olive oils is a smart
move. This can favorably impact blood lipid profiles and cell integrity (by preventing
free radical induced oxidation.)
· During mass phases you should eat more saturated fats – up to 30% of your intake
max, by using butter instead of oil when cooking. During diet phases, decrease
this ratio to about 10% of total fat intake and attack the salmon and olives for the
rest of your fats.
· Finally, don’t reduce fat intake to such low levels that your energy levels are
that of an 80-year-old bridge player. Trust me; your testes will become nothing
more than little dangling ornaments with no real function but to get in your way
during leg presses.



III. Protein Powder
So, although protein supplements are not an absolute requirement for gaining mass, I
have yet to meet any person able to get 400 grams of protein per day from cooking
food. If your protein intake is greater than 200 grams per day I will suggest a protein
powder – it will make your life a lot easier.
In addition, dollar for dollar, protein powders and meal replacement drinks tend to be
more cost effective than whole food. Don’t get me wrong, though. Protein powders
are still supplements in my book. Supplement means an addition to the diet. I emphasize
this because the focus of any diet should be food. Whole food is often preferable
to powders because it can offer a whole spectrum of nutrients that powders
cannot.


Most of your dietary protein should come from meat, fish, poultry and eggs. However
getting all your protein from whole food is not always practical or convenient, especially
if you have to eat 6 or more times a day to get your required intake. I will stress
to you, for optimal muscle gains, that you should limit yourself to a maximum
of three per day or 40 % of your meals.
This advice might appear to
contradict the meal plans I provided because you will notice that 2-3 meals a day areliquids, not including the additional three workout drinks. The plans were made with
the majority in mind – most people will be able to handle three real meals and three
liquid meals no problem. If your lifestyle permits then you are free to substitute a
liquid meal for a real meal.

The bottom line is that both are necessary to achieve a complete nutritional balance
as well as the desired level of protein intake, especially if you’re not a big fan
of cooking. Do not make the fatal mistake of thinking protein powders can take the
place of a solid training and nutrition program.

Before deciding which protein powder is necessary, here is a short protein primer to
help you make sense of the thousands of different protein powders from which to
choose:

Whey protein makes up 20% of total milk protein. Whey is recognized for its
excellent amino acid profile, high cysteine content, rapid digestion, and interesting
variety of peptides. Since it is very quickly digested the best time to consume it is
during the Energy and Anabolic Phases.

Casein protein makes up 80% of total milk protein. Casein is recognized for its
excellent amino acid profile, slow digestion and interesting variety of peptides. Since
casein is slowly digested into your bloodstream, don’t use it during workouts or after
workouts – you need a fast absorbing protein at these times. Instead, use a casein
protein for the Growth and Recovery Phases.

Soy protein is the most controversial of all protein types. While the soy groupies
have gone to great lengths to label soy as a super food with magical effects, there is
also a good amount of research that suggests soy protein may be contraindicated in
many situations.

Because of all the confusion, I suggest avoiding soy protein
altogether and sticking to the other types listed.


Protein Blends are generally a combination of several types of protein blends such
as whey protein concentrate, whey protein isolate, egg protein, casein protein,
and soy protein.
Why would you want a blend anyway? You will receive the full spectrum
of proteins and you will receive varying rates of absorption from the different
types of protein. Using a blend will create an anabolic environment from the whey
and an anti-catabolic environment from the casein – use this kind during the Growth
and Recovery Phases.

Whey hydrolysates (also known as hydrolyzed whey protein, and are also called peptides), are
powerful proteins that are more quickly absorbed; more so than any other form, since
your body prefers peptides to whole proteins. Hydrolysates are produced through verylow heat, low acid and mild enzymatic filtration processes, (those highest in the essential
and the branched chain amino acids) and are potentially the most anabolic for
short-term protein synthesis such as the Energy and Anabolic Phases.

Whey Protein Versus Whey Isolate:
Most whey protein powders that stock the supplement shelves are made up of whey
concentrate and mixed in with a small portion of whey isolate. Comparing the two,
whey protein isolate is more expensive than whey protein concentrate because it has
a higher quality (more pure) and a higher BV (biological value). Whey protein isolate contains
more protein and less fat and lactose per serving. Most whey protein isolates
contain 90-98% protein while whey concentrates contain 70-85% protein.

Whey protein isolate is the highest yield of protein currently available that comes
from milk. Because of its chemical properties it is the easiest to absorb into your
system. Obviously with its high concentration, it appears that an isolate protein
would be the obvious choice instead of a concentrate. However, this is an individual
decision because the isolate is more expensive, and just because it is purer does not
guarantee that it will help build bigger muscles. Its extra concentration may not justify
its extra cost.

So what is the bottom line? Which should you choose?
For the Energy and Anabolic Phases, as long as whey hydrolysate is the first or second
ingredient on the supplement label then there is probably enough in the product to
influence protein synthesis to reap the optimal benefits. As stated, whey isolates are
also an very extremely high quality whey and for maximal anabolism isolates should
be combined with whey hydrolysates for only the Energy and Anabolic Phases of your
program. The inclusion of small amounts of whey concentrates will not harm you but
this should not be the first ingredient on the tub of protein powder.
If you are looking for the strongest protein powder to exploit
your full growth potential during the Growth and Recovery
Phases then use a blend.

You will receive the full spectrum of proteins and you will receive varying rates of
absorption from the different types of protein. Using a blend will create an anabolic
environment from the whey and an anti-catabolic environment from the casein.

Tips:
· Most protein powder contains an array of questionable ingredients such as aspartame,
saccharin, fructose and artificial colors. It’s interesting to note how
unhealthy most of these protein powders actually are. Look for a protein powder
with natural ingredients rather than products that are sweetened with chemicals
and made with ingredients that are certainly not going to create an environment
for muscle growth.
Also avoid products with refined carbohydrates such as fructose, sucrose or brownrice syrup.
Make sure that the product is made from a reputable company that is
genuinely interested in good health. I do not recommend specific companies or
product in this book however you are welcome to email me and consult with me
on which product and company would be a wise and safe choice for you. Supplement
manufacturers will continue to meet the demands of bodybuilding consumers
with unknown crappy products because we buy it and it is cheaper for them to
create.
· In the past one of my criteria for a healthy protein product was that it was great
tasting and that it should mix easily. Most protein powders mix quite easily, even
with a spoon, however I was disappointed to discover that taste will inevitably be
sacrificed for a safe and healthy product. I can live with this. You see, once a
product is removed of all artificial chemical sweeteners such as aspartame or
sucralose, and simple sugars it is left almost tasteless and downright gross.


IV. Creatine
Creatine is so commonplace now that if you don’t see people taking creatine then
they are talking about creatine. If you have never used creatine (monohydrate) or never
heard of it then take a big breath. I will be spending more time discussing this product
because I believe it is one of the only muscle-building supplements that has stood the
test of time and provides an array of safe and effective benefits backed up by years of
scientific research.
Creatine is a compound that can be made in our bodies or taken
as a dietary supplement. The chemical name for creatine is
methyl guanidine-acetic acid. That sure is a mouthful - which
is why it is much easier to just call it creatine.
Creatine is made up of three amino acids - Arginine, Glycine and Methionine. Our
liver has the ability to combine these three amino acids and make creatine. The other
way we get creatine is from our diet. Depending on the amount of muscle mass you
have and your weight, on average a 160-pound person would have about 120 grams of
creatine stored in their body.
So the question would be, “Is the 120 grams of creatine
in my body enough?”
Maybe. The whole idea behind taking creatine as a supplement is that if you work
out you burn up a lot of creatine. If you take a creatine supplement you will have
more energy - because the ATP energy cycle can go on for a longer time. Unfortunately
your muscle’s creatine supply is not limitless. The average human has between 3.5
and 4 grams of creatine per kilogram of muscle. Once you use up the creatine in your
muscle you have to rest your muscles and wait a while before you can exercise the
muscle again. Studies have shown that the human muscle can store up to 5 grams of
creatine per kilogram. So, by taking a creatine supplement you can raise your levels
from 3.5 to 5 grams of creatine - and thus enjoy more of the benefits of creatine.
Excess creatine is eventually converted into the waste product creatinine
and excreted from the body.
It is believed that 95 - 98% of the creatine in our body is stored in our muscles. The
remaining 2 - 5% is stored in various other parts of the body including the brain, heart
and testes. Understand that the theory of what creatine does - is just that - theory. It
is amazing how little we actually know about what goes on in our body. At any rate,
the majority of research currently agrees with the positive role creatine plays in
our body.
The primary benefit of creatine use is in providing additional energy for your muscles.
I will explain this with a quick and simple biology lesson. In your body you
have a compound called ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate). Think of ATP as an energy-containing
compound. What is important to know about ATP is that the body can very quickly
get energy from an ATP reaction. You have other sources of energy such as carbohydrates
and fat - but they take longer to convert into a usable energy source. When
you are doing an intense quick burst activity - such as lifting a weight or sprinting,
your muscles must contract and need a quick source of energy. This immediate energy
comes from ATP.
Still with me? Here is where it gets interesting. When your muscles use ATP for
energy a chemical process happens whereby the ATP is broken down into two simpler
chemicals ADP (adenosine di-phosphate) and inorganic phosphate. This process of ATP
turning into ADP releases the energy that gives your muscles the ability to contract.
Unfortunately, we do not have an endless supply of ATP. In fact, your muscles only
contain enough AT P to last about 10-15 seconds at maximum exertion. In case you
were wondering - no, the ADP can not be used to create more energy for your
muscles.
Here is where the creatine comes in - or more specifically the creatine phosphate
(CP). I don’t want to go into great detail on creatine vs. creatine phosphate - all you
need to know now is that the majority of creatine that is stored in the muscles bonds
with abundant phosphorus stores in the muscles and is converted into Creatine Phos-phate (CP). CP is able to react with the ADP in your body and turn “useless” ADP back
into the “super useful” energy source - ATP. More ATP in your body means more fuel
for your muscles.
Creatine also increases volumization within your muscles. I did not make this word
up myself -volumization! Actually, it’s just a fancy name for the process of pulling
fluid into the muscle cells and thus increasing the volume of the muscles. Creatine
has been shown to pull water into your muscle cells, which increases the size of your
muscles. Don’t get too excited - it is not clear how great an effect this has. Point #1 is
a much clearer benefit of creatine.
New research has shown that creatine can help buffer lactic
acid that builds-up in the muscles during exercise.
This leads to that nasty burning feel you get in your muscles.
Scientifically it is a complicated process - basically the creatine bonds with a hydrogen
ion and that helps delay the build up of lactic acid. More research needs to be
done to see if this point is true.
There is some data to indicate that creatine helps put the body in a more anabolic
state where protein synthesis can occur. The more protein synthesis - the greater the
muscle gain.
That is creatine in a nutshell. Of the above points - the first benefit is the most powerful
and the other points are more debated - but still look to be valid.

How To Use It:
I recommend a loading phase to get the most out of creatine. I find very few people
get great results without the loading phase. A loading phase is a better guarantee
that you will improve nitrogen retention, water retention, and cell volumization in
the muscles. Keep water intake as high as possible for optimal benefits of creatine. It
requires optimal hydration to work effectively.
After you have loaded all the creatine that you can, simply use it year round with your
pre, during and post workout shakes as discussed earlier. The only time you will not
be using creatine is when you are not training and taking a week or two off for down
time (you will learn more about this later).
This means that if you are 200 pounds and 15% body fat then your lean mass is 170
pounds:
200 pounds x .15 = 30 pounds of fat
200 pounds of body weight – 15 pounds of fat = 170 pounds of lean mass
Lean Body Mass Weight Creatine Dosage - 5g
Up to 150 pounds 3 x a day
150 – 200 pounds 5 x a day
200 – 250 pounds 7 x a day

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post Aug 14 2009, 10:36 PM

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His NNMB book is tremendous.
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post Aug 14 2009, 10:55 PM

More like "fatdog" amiright?
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omg a good read...the article tells us to trust ourself...??hehe
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Holy crap that was a long read.
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post Aug 15 2009, 12:38 AM

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He said in the first line that he took it from Vince Delmonte's NNMB. You din even read the first line and you're asking him to cite his source? LOL

And it was a very good read. Not at all boring.

Bet 95% of us wouldn't even know half the facts mentioned in the article.

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Duh!
Not that hard to figure it out after you've skimmed through a few too many magazines.

That's why if a person wants to use a supplement, just buy basic ones like whey (pure ones if possible), creatine, vitamins, fish oils, glucose.
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Aug 14 2009, 10:55 PM)
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 15 2009, 02:20 AM)
Duh!
Not that hard to figure it out after you've skimmed through a few too many magazines.

That's why if a person wants to use a supplement, just buy basic ones like whey (pure ones if possible), creatine, vitamins, fish oils, glucose.
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agree with u yuanwu
usually sheits like celltech (creatine), multivits - except for animal pak, sometimes they attract by introducing groundbreaking 'r&d' which are useless
just get the pure and basic stuff with good value should be enough

i fast read the article posted by TS and i think some of the statements made are purely ridiculous
how can they say NO SUPPLEMENTS are needed
of course its easy for those who can eat like a whole cow a day or 10 chickens per day
but considering rate of absorption, time of preparation among other things, supps make life easy
haha
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I've read the Vince DelMonte book.

He didn't suggest no supplements at all. At the nutrition chapter, he did suggest whey and multivitamins, but heavy emphasis must be from natural & whole foods.

This is just the first part where he debunk the myth about relying on too much on supplements and the relationship between magazines and supplement companies.
When writing a book, an authors sometimes need to make some blanket ideas to kick start a noobs mind.
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 15 2009, 10:16 AM)
I've read the Vince DelMonte book.

He didn't suggest no supplements at all. At the nutrition chapter, he did suggest whey and multivitamins, but heavy emphasis must be from natural & whole foods.

This is just the first part where he debunk the myth about relying on too much on supplements and the relationship between magazines and supplement companies.
When writing a book, an authors sometimes need to make some blanket ideas to kick start a noobs mind.
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Here is the final Part about supplement

Part 7 of 7 : Supplements to Avoid Weight Gain Powders

If you have been thinking about using weight gain powders, consider that you are better
off wolfing down a box of Krispy Kreme doughnuts, which will provide about the
same nutrient intake. Sure, the doughnuts don’t have the protein but don’t kid yourself,
most of these weight gain powders don’t even have the protein amounts that are
advertised. The protein is substituted with chalk or cake mix that is much cheaper
and profitable, tastes OK and meets the consumers’ needs – more convenient calories.

These products should be avoided because they are loaded
with low quality ingredients, will cause you to lose all your
friends because of their farting
potential, put a lot of stress on your digestive system and
make you even lazier.


Meal Replacement Powders
MRP’s are another result of nutrition industry commercialization, and have gained
popularity simply from the marketing hype promoting these ‘engineered foods.’ Most
MRP’s have better ingredients than weight gain powders but not by much. Basically
you are consuming a modern day weight gain powder for the Average Joe.

If you want to save money then buy a high quality protein
powder, mix it with a tablespoon of flax oil, olive oil or natural
peanut butter (good fat) as well as a cup of yogurt or a
cup of fruit (for your carbs), and some ice cubes, and you now
have a homemade - and healthy - meal replacement.


Myostatin Inhibitors
Myostatin is a protein that negatively regulates muscle growth. Basically it is released
at a certain point to prevent you from getting ‘too big.’
The myostatin ‘inhibitors’ are all about marketing and have nothing to do with results
- save your money and don’t get scammed. All they have going for them is their advertising.
The advertising for this product is unbelievable as it takes some laboratory
(nothing proven in the real world) credibility and than unashamedly promotes a product
that costs about $2 to make. This is another product that uses the dirty low-costsell-
high-promise-everything-deliver-nothing technique.
Don’t forget, these products are marketed by companies who want to make as much
money as possible. When no one actually experiences real world results they take it
off the shelf and create a new product. This is the sick mentality of the supplement
industry.

Nitric Oxide Boosters
Say no to NO. Nitric Oxide (NO) is a free radical gas produced in the body by the
amino acid arginine. The primary function of NO is to relax the smooth muscle of your
blood vessels.
At first glance, this allows NO to lower blood pressure, increase blood flow to working
muscles and organs, which results in a better ‘pump’ that advertisements say is anabolic.
Interestingly, NO products do not actually contain any nitric oxide; rather they
carry the amino acid precursors for NO. Whether these amino acids actually increase
NO is an entirely different discussion altogether.
Most guys swear that it works because of the ‘pump’ and this is why this product has
probably remained a best-seller and might stick around for a little while longer despite
its ridiculous price (some of these NO products cost over $100)! As long as naïve
trainees believe that a pump is necessary for muscle growth then NO has not outlived
its glory. However, since we have already discussed that ‘training for the pump’ is one
of the top 20 ways to screw up in the gym you will be one of the few who says no to
NO! By buying these products, all you are pumping up is the supplement companies’
wallets.

Carbohydrate Energy Drinks
I have absolutely no problem with this type of supplement but why spend the money
when you can have fruit juice or a sport drink like Powerade or Gatorade, for 1/10th
of the cost?

However, like I mentioned earlier, you should aim to use dextrose before anything else
when making your own easy at-home concoction. Dextrose will enter your blood
stream and go immediately to your muscle glycogen as where fructose goes to your
liver glycogen.

Creatine Sugar Mixes
Again, there is no need to spend $100 on a tub of sugar that has only a few grams of
creatine and a few other bells and whistles (that will have minimal effect) thrown in.
You can cut your cost in half by buying sugar at the grocery store and mixing it with
creatine (bought in bulk for about $30-$40). You will gain the same insulin boosting
effects as the more expensive mixes.

Testosterone Boosters
Testosterone boosters are designed to either directly or indirectly affect androgen
levels in the body. Some supposedly do it directly by supplying a testosterone precursor
(any of the androstenedione formulations on the market), and others do it indirectly
by increasing levels of luteinizing hormone and manipulating the body’s feedback
systems.
Although there has been a handful of research on the most popular testosterone
booster, tribulus terrestris, the quality of product found in most health food stores
is poor and basically useless. If you can find a very high quality tribulus product then
feel free to experiment and notice a slight increase in strength.

Glutamine
Following is an article I recently wrote on glutamine:
When was the last time you read an article discrediting the effects of glutamine?
Maybe this will be your first one? Unfortunately, the majority of bodybuilding and
muscle magazines still have this supplement on their “Top 5 Lists.” I am not here to
convince you to never buy another tub of glutamine again, but if stay with me, I will
do my best to debunk some of the common myths that have led you to believe that
this expensive supplement is necessary.

But I Thought Glutamine Was A “No Brainer” Supplement?
Creatine is a ‘no brainer’ supplement, protein powder is a ‘no brainer’ supplement,
multi vitamins and fish oils are ‘no brainer’ supplements. Sorry, Glutamine, you did
not make the team - despite the fact it gets its own message boards, chat rooms,
magazine articles and its own section in the supplement store. I don’t need to remind
you that the supplement industry is a billion-dollar industry. Since I used to be a
skinny guy myself, I know how badly you want to build the perfect body - or at least
one that gets you more dates and more respect at the gym!
Since I have already wasted thousands of dollars on certain, not all, supplements myself,
I feel an obligation to tell you the other side of the story. To reveal the glutamine
research that NOBODY wants you to read. But this is obvious - nobody makes money
disproving the credibility of a hot selling supplement!
So here is where I will make my stand. Glutamine has no muscle-building effects
whatsoever. Now before we get too deep, remember that I am not a PH.D student or
a research geek. I will pass along the information and let you decide for yourself, and,
in the process, do my best to make this fun and interesting.

So Is Glutamine A Worthless Supplement?
Well, if you stopped reading right now you would think so! And you are probably confused
as heck right now because everything you have heard on glutamine before today
praised its holiness. Remember, the supplement industry is a billion-dollar industry
and nobody makes money by disproving the effectiveness of supplements. In the end,
you must decide for yourself what you wish to believe.
When Glutamine Is Worth Using
David Barr fingers a few situations when glutamine supplement will prove useful
for the bodybuilder, so here is a chance to see if your glutamine should still be in
your budget:
• Glutamine supplementation could prove useful for bodybuilders who decrease their
testosterone levels after coming off a cycle improperly. Muscle breakdown is at its
highest in these circumstances despite a quality nutrition plan, so glutamine might
help.
• During a pre-contest training regiment that consists of very low calories and high
volumes of exercise, protein breakdown is much more likely. Basically, any extreme
dieting or fat loss program with the hopes of getting extremely lean can result in increased
stress, therefore increased catabolism. Competitive bodybuilders and fitness
models are perfect examples of those who might benefit from glutamine supplementation
in this above-normal fat loss situation.
• During incidences of extreme weather conditions and/or multi day training, there
are situations where extreme stress can be counteract with glutamine supplementation.
Triathletes and endurance athletes come to mind.
• “ Glutamine supplementation would be beneficial for conditions where catabolic
waste is at its peak. Severe burns, severe colds or flu’s, severe allergies, a

At the start I stated that, “Glutamine has no muscle building effects whatsoever.”
After reviewing this article, you will notice that is not as black and white as that.
However, the take home message, especially to you skinny guys, is that if you are on
a proper muscle-building meal plan and using solid post-workout nutrition strategies,
glutamine is not a worthwhile supplement for you. Save your money and put it towards
food if you are motivated to gain muscle weight.
Save your money and put it towards food if you are motivated to gain muscle weight.
I hope this supplement was a good example of looking at the evidence rather then the
hyped-up muscle rags and advice from the ‘expert’ at your gym. In the end, you are
free to believe what you wish, but remember that the current research today does
not support the spectacular muscle-building effects supplement companies claim.



Conclusion
I will say this. Supplements like NO2 products, glutamine, testosterone boosters
and any other ‘new’ and ‘cutting edge’ product is being hyped up as you read this
might have their place. A small, small place.
If money is not an option for you then knock yourself out and put as much into
supplements as you wish. I won’t lie to you. When my training hits a 90 % threshold
– meaning I have honestly implemented all the other training principles I have
shared and have approached a minor halt in progress. THEN, I might consider using
some glutamine, NO2, and test boosters because they might in fact make a 5-10 %
difference in my overall results, ONLY because everything else is in place.
But realize that I am not expecting miracles. I’m simply seeking a little bit of an
edge because I refuse to use steroids and these supplements might help me kick
down a door that’s being stubborn. Remember, supplement companies don’t make
money by bashing or discrediting a new product on the shelf. Be wise. Use common
sense. Keep everything in perspective and you won’t be scammed or disappointed.

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QUOTE(jamis @ Aug 18 2009, 09:37 AM)
LOL! Hah hah!
Give the guy a break. He's learning along the way. So a change in his thoughts and direction is normal.
We all thought we were right once, then slowly as we pick up new information... we change our stance. Some do it subtly, some more public.

At least he isn't Budak84. brows.gif
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 18 2009, 10:05 AM)
LOL! Hah hah!
Give the guy a break. He's learning along the way. So a change in his thoughts and direction is normal.
We all thought we were right once, then slowly as we pick up new information... we change our stance. Some do it subtly, some more public.

At least he isn't Budak84. brows.gif
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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Aug 18 2009, 09:13 PM)
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TEAM MUSCLETECH TAKING OVER THE WORLD!  tongue.gif  icon_idea.gif
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