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post Aug 13 2009, 11:29 AM, updated 17y ago

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Ok, this is off LFC normal talk but i think it prudent to share.

I am sure by now most subscribers to Astro Sports Package has received the Price Hiked of RM 12 for the 811-814 channels. To some its a huge increase and to some its nothing, but the principle of it is a price hike by a monopoly that seems to strategised it at the time when they know most ppl will have no choice but to agree... the starting of the BPL and all football seasons.

I feel it was deliberately waited for the increase to coincide with the new football season. this kinda shows we are actually the majorities of the sports package subscribers. Somehow i did something i should have done earlier, cancel the package. yep, I will have no more Astro Sports Package to watch but I feel it actually happened for a reason. I think football should be enjoyed with company or fans or friends or at least ppl with the same passion about it.

So Astro actually did us all a favor to rethink the need to actually watch sports at home. Yes we know the CL games are in the wee hours of the morning but heck, online streaming? 24 hour mamaks? etc... I think its time to see if we are really the "idiot box" generation as many of our predecessors have mentioned or we can make a change and get out there with a drink (alcoholic or not) and hoist it every time a goal, a win, a lost is shared among friends.

So my post is a tribute to Astro, thank you for making me see football in a better light and continue to do a good job in making sure more ppl watch Astro outside the comforts of their own home tongue.gif

To all of us! Season starts this weekend and you'll see more fans coming out of their holes to watch it outside with fellow fans. Hurrah! and YNWA!
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Ok I shared this in the LFC Talk area, but Solstice asked me to share it to all at the Lounge as I think it affects us all in a lesser or greater degree cool2.gif

also some views on your individual reaction would definitely be good blush.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:43 AM

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From my observation, it's the same tactic being used by Maxis. After getting huge number of "followers" (customers), they (the respective management team) will start to increase the profit margin by either increasing the price of the product, or reducing the existing benefits enjoyed by the customers. And I don't really agree with such tactic, sorry.

For me, it's OK to increase the price AS LONG AS they can improve the quality of their service, which couldn't be seen till this point of time. Therefore, I'm not going to pay for the extra RM12. Although it can be considered as a small amount, but it's the satisfaction that counts, IMHO.

That's my short & simple reaction smile.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:50 AM

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LOL, I still remember when our then Minister of Information and Multimedia..

Mr Lim said. "Aiyah...Don't like them, don't use them lor!"

that was classic tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:54 AM

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do u guys know how much does football matches cost?i don't know much but the fact is the price of football matches especially BPL is rising and for sure astro will increase their price.
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:06 PM

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do u know astro can take out a channel without informing u, (eg:read Channel 122)? I dun like the way they conduct their business but there's no other choise for pay tv
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post Aug 13 2009, 01:38 PM

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They need to pay 50k to the winner of the fantasy football
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post Aug 13 2009, 01:50 PM

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It is nothing new coming from our country. It is simple plain daylight robbery if you ask me. The famous term if "kalau tak suka boleh keluar" comes to mind here. Unfortunately the power of the consumer here is not strong enough. So companies like this are bound to control or monopolize the market.

There is nothing we can do about it but just to live with it.
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post Aug 13 2009, 01:55 PM

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I think the daylight robbery part happens on the EPL bit. I've read somewhere that the cost for broadcast rights have TRIPLED since last season, and continues to go up every single year. So not surprisingly, really, that the costs are now being passed on to consumers.

Support the M-League!!!
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post Aug 13 2009, 01:58 PM

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Damn, price hike? I didnt know but i cant do much about it, except to pay. I like to watch my football at home, alone. Mamak is not exactly the most comfortable place to watch. You need to get good seats that means near the front, you need to order something to eat/drink and the chair/stool is damn uncomfortable.

But little bit of the blame should go to football teams itself. Maybe not any teams in particular but in general. Every season, tv sponsorship is increasing, the players need to buy new Ferrari's, need to buy new house while we, the audience will simply got to fork out more, whether to watch them play in the stadium or from home.
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post Aug 13 2009, 02:19 PM

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it's about time they increase the price..tongue.gif
as what bro qspn mentioned, its quite common scenario at our country.
seriously, it happens with tolls.. cigars.. petrols.. public transport fare..

i can'tbe mad of astro for the price hike as i'm not subscribing sports channel. My passion of sports only at football. so it's not practical for me to subscribe the sports package.

but for me, i prefer to watch outside with friends(and rival..) because of the atmosphere. it really raised up the adrenaline inside me whenever our team hit the net..

either at mamak or any place outside would be the ideal place to watch the game as long as it's in the big crowd..

this is my 5 cent opinion..
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post Aug 13 2009, 02:21 PM

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As a ManUtd fan, I dont really mind actually...Why should I when I can see each and every matches that my team plays. Feels sorry for the other team fans though.
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post Aug 13 2009, 02:35 PM

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but now astro 811 have france ligue 1... smile.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 02:45 PM

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so new price is? rm72.10?
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post Aug 13 2009, 02:51 PM

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i would pay double extra if they had ChelseaTV on Astro.
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post Aug 13 2009, 02:53 PM

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I still live with my parents so I'm not a prime decision maker when it comes to expenses like these. However, I have mentioned to my dad bout them son of a guns hiking up the prices, but its just one of those things where we have to accept. Inflation is not uncommon in this country, and I highly doubt a small increase like this will deter Malaysians from continuing to subscribe to watch their weekly (some daily) football fix. About a year ago, we agreed to terminate the movies package becoz it was a lil too pricey and all they showed were replays of old movies we would have already watched a long time ago. Sports though is one which my family and I use the most atm. We get together to watch football, badminton, tennis, golf, F1 etc. It'd be too costly to watch games every week outside with friends at the bar becoz bottles and pints can cost quite a bit and thus diminish the savings we would have received from cancelling it. I'm one who likes to view matches of those not involving my fav team as well, becoz I am a football fan in general, so going out for early mornings every so often Champions League football is on and then having to wake up early for classes is a big no-no for me. Guess we'll just have to live with the fact that in Malaysia where monopolies are basically untouchable, life is full of lemons.
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post Aug 13 2009, 03:04 PM

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I simply conclude this as daylight robbery. Despite that, i had some informations from my mates who works in Astro , that ..seeming the global broadcasting price has been increased for Premship live telecast , that seems hit us right at our pocket..

Also, rumors surrounding that Sports channel will be upgraded to High Def near future and i've been hearing this for couple of years..this seems not to be right for those whose still on a SD tele's.

Yet, price hike should have been reasonable , taking into consideration of the current economical situation around..

I've opted out and decided to go along the "mamak" crowd for much more merrier time..

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post Aug 13 2009, 03:10 PM

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People may say that BPL price is getting higher compared to last season which lead them to increase the price but bear in mind, it's SPORT CHANNEL.It's not just football we have there.That's pretty much a lame excuse if they say that's the sole reason the price is increased.Plus, if my memory serves me right, they just increased the price of other channels not very long time ago...Sigh...
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Sometimes I will think that what is the contribution a soccer player can bring to us? Just plain look at C. Ronaldo, what kind of contribution he have given to this world? For me, the only thing is making more CO2 and increase the speed of global warming due to buying big capacity sports car. Once i heard that got one EPL player, don't know from which team, parking his sports car at the "NO PARKING AREA", and was towed by police, do you know what that player did? Just leave the car in police station and went to buy a new, same model sports car, until police sent him the warning. Do you willing to pay our hard earn money just for those so call "soccer player". I wouldn't and I would rather go to bed earlier and at the same time, will get a healthier body.
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Lets not push the blame to the footballing entities. End of the day, it is ppl like us who demand for the sport, and when theres demand, theres bound to be those who want to supply, albeit at a high price. Frankly, I wouldn't mind the price increase if we were getting the same amount of content those in the UK were. 10 EPL games running concurrently at separate channels for our viewing pleasure, HD enabled, player-by-player tracking. Now I'd pay good money for that. Rather, we get Shebby Singh and cut reception when it rains. Ffs.
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Aug 13 2009, 03:26 PM)
Lets not push the blame to the footballing entities. End of the day, it is ppl like us who demand for the sport, and when theres demand, theres bound to be those who want to supply, albeit at a high price. Frankly, I wouldn't mind the price increase if we were getting the same amount of content those in the UK were. 10 EPL games running concurrently at separate channels for our viewing pleasure, HD enabled, player-by-player tracking. Now I'd pay good money for that. Rather, we get Shebby Singh and cut reception when it rains. Ffs.
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This one piss me off the most. How the f*** they said its a problem they cannot counter when all along they knew this would happens frequently as this is Malaysia where rains is norm doh.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 03:51 PM

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Well, they have been saying gonna improve it...even now, when raining, the service still get interrupted...Improving my ass
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post Aug 13 2009, 04:20 PM

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then when service interrupted... you call thier customer service... i bet you they will use the same script even it is 100th time you call them... damn! that really make me sick...
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its satellite la...really nothing much they can do about rain...its the same worldwide...even in countries that snow.

u think malaysia got the infrastructure to have cable in every house?
else all those kampungs with even no running water wont be able to enjoy astro anymore as its not possible to drag cables to every single kampung everywhere.



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post Aug 13 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Aug 13 2009, 03:26 PM)
Lets not push the blame to the footballing entities. End of the day, it is ppl like us who demand for the sport, and when theres demand, theres bound to be those who want to supply, albeit at a high price. Frankly, I wouldn't mind the price increase if we were getting the same amount of content those in the UK were. 10 EPL games running concurrently at separate channels for our viewing pleasure, HD enabled, player-by-player tracking. Now I'd pay good money for that. Rather, we get Shebby Singh and cut reception when it rains. Ffs.
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You might be able to get 10 EPL games running but you wont get it LIVE in UK... In UK there is only certain games that you do get live (Especially on Sunday or maybe Saturday morning)(UK time)


You can only get to choose which games you want them to play in your tv after the games is over...
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QUOTE(vreis @ Aug 13 2009, 03:43 PM)
This one piss me off the most. How the f*** they said its a problem they cannot counter when all along they knew this would happens frequently as this is Malaysia where rains is norm doh.gif
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Like MRR2? LOL rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
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LOL yep, there are always excuses but never any action i suppose.

when problem arises, instead of fixing it, they give excuses.
when excuses runs out and they need to fix it, they give reasons for price hike
this then is a lesson in backdoor taichi... and at the end someone bears the monopolies brunt of the cost, which is the consumer tongue.gif
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i'm cancelling my astro sports package next month. The only reason i got it is for EPL, ECL and La Liga. Nothing more... occasional see F1.. but that's all. So, i don't see why i wanna pay more for something i don't even turn to until like weekends.

So, I'm keeping the basic package + the cartoons for my kids. minimum. That's all.

if they increase again, I'll cancel astro as well. Free TV quite good. Plus my kids nowadays always turn to Youtube for latest manga or cartoons. So, better just cancel Astro rite?

it's the mom who loves Astro. AF la... Desperate Housewives la... McLoed's Daughter la... jeez.... my wife really into all these shows. Recently, i started downloading DHW season 5 full season and burn DVD for her. hahaha.. after this i dunno what's her excuse anymore.

Whatever u wanna see... it's all online. biggrin.gif For live telecast, go to mamak.
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is alright for the hike, especially for those family who really watch several sports game
but the problem with Astro is their quality improvement, nothing at all for these years, HD not yet implement and yet TV1 and TV2 already had it shakehead.gif
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I can see there's mix reaction to the price hike of the Sports Package. I saw some replies like "I'm hard core fan of Club ABC, so i don't care about the hike" ... i just wonder if you're actually paying for the bill in the first place.

For me, i would watch and see say for 6 months or so to determine whetever the price hike is reasonable. As I'm paying for the bill myself (helping my parents), i think its too early to bash Astro at this stage. Lets see what improvements they will introduce with that extra Rm12 or so.

Next year 2010, is world cup year and if they still want us to pay to watch the world cup then for sure i'm cancelling my package and head to the mamaks stores to watch the big event.
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My parents have decided to cancel the sports package. So basically the next time my team plays, I will have to hang out at the mamak for the match. Else I will have to hang out at my friend's place for the game!

I believe a RM12 slap on the end users is a bit high. Even though the hike in price, I believe Astro don't really have to slap the users that much. But of course we can wait and see what they will have to improve their service.
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hopefully malaysia hsbb iptv will give competition to astro in serving customer like what happen in our telecommunication provider.... god bless..
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 13 2009, 07:37 PM)
is alright for the hike, especially for those family who really watch several sports game
but the problem with Astro is their quality improvement, nothing at all for these years, HD not yet implement and yet TV1 and TV2 already had it shakehead.gif
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Thats the thing. Who cares about American baseball,and american football and X-games of 3 years ago,and GOLF! zzzzzzzzz!!!

Im just paying for EPL and the OCCASIONAL NBA game.
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For me I don't have much of a choice. No way am I going to a mamak at 3am every weekend just to watch football shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 14 2009, 02:48 PM)
For me I don't have much of a choice. No way am I going to a mamak at 3am every weekend just to watch football shakehead.gif
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streaming at home is still a choice tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Aug 14 2009, 03:00 PM)
streaming at home is still a choice  tongue.gif
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astro is monopoly organisation... so is up to them wan raise up price or not..

cuz they rr 1.. like najib said 1 malaysia...

we cannot find another sport channel so we dun hav choice... thats y astro do that.. ya i admit maybe the cost increased but they never do kebajikan for the customer.. if i can find another `astro` sure i potong that line...
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for me the 12 hikeseem justified.
like now we can see the badminton world champ live and also the tennis game.
lets see what happen in the nex few month if astro can improve in their service, hope no extra charge for WC2010!!!
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Going to the mamak in my case may be even more expensive taking into account the cost of petrol and drinks ordered at the mamak or bar and non-price factors like convenience so I'll just stick with Astro.

Besides I watch an average of 5 BPL matches per weekend and if you were to use the math to divide RM 12 per month over the 20 matches, it'd cost quite a measly amount compared to what I would spend at a mamak.

And as verx said, don't get started on streaming.
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im cancelling mine too from next month.......not worth it at all 2 pay rm12, since i only watch on weekends.
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if mamak also protest and all mamak in malaysia cancel the sport package like you guys how ? go where pulak ? as some has pointed out here, go mamak need patrol , then must order some teh tarik , sit2 chit chat , rokok must jalan also. then sit 90 minutes there. and u know la , astro price hike , mamak also price hike laaa , they know ppl will come to mamak now cause all cancel astro at home maaa.this is malaysia , 1 thing price up , others also follow. go la mamak. enjoy the price hiked teh tarik while u are watching ur fav team play.
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where is SKMM?.sleeping what?.cammonla..open ur eye.
long2 ago i remember.. " We Will Take Action If Astro Increase
Price Without We Permission "

so now ???

p/s : well,watch EPL must go on tongue.gif
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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Aug 18 2009, 08:50 AM)
if mamak also protest and all mamak in malaysia cancel the sport package like you guys how ?  go where  pulak ?    as some has pointed out here,  go mamak need patrol , then must order some teh tarik ,  sit2 chit chat ,  rokok must jalan also.  then sit 90 minutes there.  and u know la , astro price hike , mamak also price hike laaa , they know ppl will come to mamak now cause all cancel astro at home maaa.this is malaysia ,  1 thing price up , others also follow.  go la mamak.  enjoy the price hiked teh tarik while u are watching ur fav team play.
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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Aug 18 2009, 08:50 AM)
if mamak also protest and all mamak in malaysia cancel the sport package like you guys how ?  go where  pulak ?    as some has pointed out here,  go mamak need patrol , then must order some teh tarik ,  sit2 chit chat ,  rokok must jalan also.  then sit 90 minutes there.  and u know la , astro price hike , mamak also price hike laaa , they know ppl will come to mamak now cause all cancel astro at home maaa.this is malaysia ,  1 thing price up , others also follow.  go la mamak.  enjoy the price hiked teh tarik while u are watching ur fav team play.
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then dun order teh tarik.. drink sky juice instead.. and say tak nak to rokok laugh.gif
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Pay extra 12 bucks and where is the game for gameweek 2? No live...Crap
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hence, even the price hike means a possible gamble of no live matches.

mamak protest?! HAHAHAHA, kindly do not make me laugh, Astro could have been and may still be the best thing that happened to them. even if they raise the stake to 300 per channel, they will still put it on, why? becos that is the reality of the draw.

i'll swallow my words when the mamak actually does cancel Astro, but who would like to wager on this? take a quick bet on when this will happen, 1 year, 2 maybe 10 years from now..i put my money on "not anytime soon, not ever"

anyway we all enjoy the game according to how we want to enjoy it, whose to say cancelling the service is wrong? whose to say staying home or going out to watch it is wrong? whose to say having a good time with some friends catching up on the games is wrong?

to each his own... to live with the hike or don't. i chose not to, and i'm still enjoying it with friends outside and the crowd makes the difference i guess. thats for me anyway, what about you?
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I don't see why mamak's would cancel their ASTRO subscriptions. If people are driven out of their homes, there will be more people flocking to these locations if anything, more than covering the extra cost.
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support online streaming....astro monopoly bad for consumer..

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