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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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post Aug 13 2009, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Aug 12 2009, 11:52 PM)
So tomorrow you want to Long a Futures?
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by the way, how is your current situation for Futures?

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The Dow looks so toppy now.. every Tom d*** and Harry already bought in ahead of Fed decision.
I may pull another short sell here to grab a few points for day trade - I'm expecting sell off after that. biggrin.gif

US Fed now on freebie freenzy. Everyone is already sugar high, they keep pumping it out.
Crazy, isn't it?

Across the Atlantic ocean, it doesn't look like UK is mending. I think they're more realistic on
the true state of the economy. They're in deeper recession that first thought.







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no wonder u say appreciate or depreciate also u can earn money laugh.gif

go for both long and short...
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 13 2009, 01:02 AM)
no wonder u say appreciate or depreciate also u can earn money laugh.gif

go for both long and short...
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Yes, that is correct. Bulls and Bears can also make money.
Perhaps this is only in the crazy American market. biggrin.gif


Added on August 13, 2009, 1:37 am
QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 12 2009, 11:45 PM)
HUH??
I'm not happy about it.

My US denominated FD savings accounts are paying next to nothing thanks to this ridiculous ZIRP. mad.gif
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Yes, that's unfortunate. US Fed may not decide raise interest rate until for another 3-6 months.
Even if it does, it will be like 0.25 pts. I see US may want to continue this "quantitative easing" for quite some time until their economy mends. At this moment, have to buy/sell stocks and hope for capital gains instead of putting in FD for now.


Update:

DJ 9361.61 +120.16 +1.30%
NAS 1998.72 +28.99 +1.47%
S&P500 1005.81 +11.46 +1.15% rclxms.gif

Am I happy today because of stock rises? No.
Because I knew the bulls can't hold at the top, at closing, DJ gave back 40+ points.
I've shorted at near the top, and covered at closing to take some profits.
Thanks Mr. US Fed! thumbup.gif

This euphoria may continue on for now. IMO, the higher it goes, the wider the swing, the further it may drop.
We will see a double dip later. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 13 2009, 01:10 AM)
Yes, that is correct. Bulls and Bears can also make money.
Perhaps this is only in the crazy American market.  biggrin.gif


Added on August 13, 2009, 1:37 am

Yes, that's unfortunate. US Fed may not decide raise interest rate until for another 3-6 months.
Even if it does, it will be like 0.25 pts. I see US may want to continue this "quantitative easing" for quite some time until their economy mends.  At this moment, have to buy/sell stocks and hope for capital gains instead of putting in FD for now.
Update:

DJ 9361.61 +120.16 +1.30%
NAS 1998.72 +28.99 +1.47%
S&P500 1005.81 +11.46  +1.15%  rclxms.gif

Am I happy today because of stock rises? No.
Because I  knew the bulls can't hold at the top, at closing, DJ gave back 40+ points.
I've shorted at near the top, and covered at closing to take some profits.
Thanks Mr. US Fed!  thumbup.gif

This euphoria may continue on for now. IMO,  the higher it goes, the wider the swing, the further it may drop. 
We will see a double dip later. biggrin.gif
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Hippie...... today will be another bull day for KLSE.............. let's buy before we miss the boat........... rclxms.gif
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checking in! lets ride the bull today!
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post Aug 13 2009, 08:43 AM

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will it be GREEN today? Do not ASSUME..
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 13 2009, 08:43 AM)
will it be GREEN today? Do not ASSUME..
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we dun assume... we predict tongue.gif

checking in wave.gif
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 13 2009, 08:43 AM)
will it be GREEN today? Do not ASSUME..
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it will open green =) definitely
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post Aug 13 2009, 08:48 AM

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Good morning..
Huat ar !! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 08:52 AM

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Good that you change your avatar. No more time bomb for KLCI! tongue.gif

QUOTE(espree @ Aug 13 2009, 08:48 AM)
Good morning..
Huat ar !! biggrin.gif
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KNM gonna jump a few tick this morning! come on!!! reach 90 cent fast fast rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 13 2009, 08:46 AM)
we dun assume... we predict tongue.gif

checking in wave.gif
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Not the OPENING, what I meant is thorough the day.

Many cases, GREEN opening RED closing.
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post Aug 13 2009, 08:56 AM

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KNM I don't think can move much... Foreign fund still disposing...

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KNM gonna jump a few tick this morning! come on!!! reach 90 cent fast fast rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 13 2009, 08:55 AM)
Not the OPENING, what I meant is thorough the day.

Many cases, GREEN opening RED closing.
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well...FED maintaining the interest rate at the current low can somehow boost investor confidence right? people rather put their money into higher yielding instruments smile.gif
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 13 2009, 08:52 AM)
Good that you change your avatar. No more time bomb for KLCI!  tongue.gif
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Yeah! Hope my new avatar bring me good luck. thumbup.gif
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KNM GONNA JUMP! YEEPEE!
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Aug 13 2009, 08:56 AM)
well...FED maintaining the interest rate at the current low can somehow boost investor confidence right? people rather put their money into higher yielding instruments smile.gif
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but dun forget, we are in MALAYSIA not USA. When the whole WORLD in RED, we are GREEN. notworthy.gif


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i got a gut feeling today CI will breach 1190

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post Aug 13 2009, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Aug 13 2009, 08:56 AM)
well...FED maintaining the interest rate at the current low can somehow boost investor confidence right? people rather put their money into higher yielding instruments smile.gif
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Ha ha!...."boosting confidence"?

People just prefer buy stocks because fixed deposit is too low. It doesn't really boost their confidence.
It infact adds more volatility!

Stocks are so overbought now..this "confidence" will be shoved out the window very quickly. tongue.gif

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