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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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panasonic88
post Aug 12 2009, 03:16 PM

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my dad is going in for maybank too, he has tons of patient, he say he will wait at lower. i shall follow him too biggrin.gif
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 12 2009, 03:14 PM)
Sealink... zamans98 is the most happy guy! he sold in strength yesterday, aww!
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I believe the company is good but PA suggest that the price is "high" for now. So decided to dumped 2/3 yesterday. With the cash, re-enter at lower price.. smile.gif
but sold at break-even price.
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:19 PM

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China market down nearly 5%.

Bubble bursting?
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:21 PM

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BURSTAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Top Loser page, alot of unwanted gem, omg buy buy buy!
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 12 2009, 03:19 PM)
China market down nearly 5%.

Bubble bursting?
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Oh oh...we're in trouble, something come along and it burst our bubble rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 12 2009, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 12 2009, 03:21 PM)
BURSTAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Top Loser page, alot of unwanted gem, omg buy buy buy!
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Which one?
BURSA mother or anak2x..?
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:24 PM

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The most fear is if China bubble bursting, world economy ended like Japan model.


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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 12 2009, 03:22 PM)
Which one?
BURSA mother or anak2x..?
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haha i mean B-U-R-S-T, not Bursa laugh.gif

bursa warrant coming down fast, SKY 1809 another wise guy!
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:24 PM

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wow so red drool.gif
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 12 2009, 03:19 PM)
China market down nearly 5%.

Bubble bursting?
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Not sure, but according to bloomberg, it said that investors use that as excuse to exit their market
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Aug 12 2009, 03:26 PM)
Not sure, but according to bloomberg, it said that investors use that as excuse to exit their market
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One thing for sure, loan growth is bubbling there.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 12 2009, 03:27 PM)
One thing for sure, loan growth is bubbling there.
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Yup, another reason could be this.

Quoted from bloomberg

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as falling metals prices and freight rates spurred declines by commodity producers and shipping lines.

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time to take your money off the table.
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Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Recovery from the worst recession since the 1930s has begun as President Barack Obama’s fiscal stimulus -- derided as insufficient and budget-busting months ago -- takes effect, a survey of economists indicated.

The economy will expand 2 percent or more in four straight quarters through June, the first such streak in more than four years, according to the median of 53 forecasts in the monthly Bloomberg News survey. Analysts lifted their estimate for the third quarter by 1.2 percentage points compared with July, the biggest such boost in surveys dating from May 2003.

“We’ve averted the worst, and there are clear signs the stimulus is working,” said Kenneth Goldstein, an economist at the Conference Board in New York.

The new projections, following better-than-anticipated reports on manufacturing, employment and home construction, echo gains in investor confidence that have propelled the Standard & Poor’s 500 Stock Index to its high for the year. A rebound may help cushion declines in Obama’s approval ratings, political analysts said.

“The fact that people for the first time in over a year are starting to look at some glimmers of hope plays to the prospect of some strength in the stimulus,” said Susan Molinari, a Republican strategist in Washington who advised Rudy Giuliani during his presidential nomination campaign in 2008.

Unemployment, Fed

The anticipated expansion in the coming year won’t be enough to prevent the unemployment rate from reaching 10 percent for the first time since 1983, the survey also showed. That will force the Federal Reserve to forego raising its benchmark interest rate until the third quarter of 2010, according to the median projection.

The Fed’s policy-setting Open Market Committee will today keep the target rate at zero to 0.25 percent and retain plans to buy as much as $1.45 trillion of housing debt by year-end to help secure a recovery, analysts said. The FOMC’s statement is expected at about 2:15 p.m. in Washington.

Obama’s $787 billion economic recovery effort, spanning tax cuts, infrastructure spending and a goal to create or save 3.5 million jobs, was enacted about six months ago. Republican lawmakers, nearly all of whom voted against the package, have pilloried the plan as a waste of money.

Republican Criticism

“Trillions more in Washington spending will not end a recession, it only puts future generations under a mountain of unsustainable debt,” House Minority Leader John Boehner, an Ohio Republican, said last week. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated last week that the stimulus has pumped $125 billion into the economy so far.

A federal program to replace older vehicles with more fuel-efficient ones helped boost sales of cars and light trucks last month to the highest level since September, according to industry figures. Automakers, operating with lean inventories, will resume output to meet the jump in demand.

“Cash-for-clunkers was the icing on the cake,” said David Greenlaw, chief fixed-income economist at Morgan Stanley in New York. “It’s well-timed stimulus syncing with cyclical forces leading to a ramping up of production.”

Company heads seeing an improvement include David Weidman, chief executive officer of Dallas-based chemical maker Celanese Corp. “We exited the quarter with increasing optimism,” and there are “clear signs of economic recovery,” Weidman said in an interview in July.

Build ‘Credibility’

“The stimulus was really a long-term political and economic play by the administration, and now they’re starting to see the results they wanted,” said Bill Buck, a Democratic strategist who worked on the presidential campaigns of former Vice President Al Gore and retired General Wesley Clark. “The administration would be wise to use this to build their credibility with the public” on other issues like health care, he said.

The president’s approval rating is falling on concern over rising joblessness and the growing budget deficit, a Quinnipiac University poll showed last week.

Half of the registered voters surveyed from July 27 to Aug. 3 by Quinnipiac said they approve of the job Obama is doing, compared with 42 percent who disapprove. That’s down from 57 percent approval and 33 percent disapproval in a late June poll.

Americans are hurting as employers continue to cut jobs, albeit at a slower pace. The unemployment rate will average 9.8 percent in 2010, according to the Bloomberg survey taken from Aug. 5 to Aug. 11.

Jobs Key

“The labor market is going to be the key,” said Michael Feroli, an economist at JPMorgan Chase & Co. in New York. “The risk isn’t that it gets much worse, but that it doesn’t improve quickly enough. It’d be nice if the consumer found his legs.”

Consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the economy, will rise an average 1.5 percent from July to December, up from prior estimates, the survey showed.

“What’s happening now is a leveling off, not a strong increase in growth, and that owes a little to the stimulus package,” said Robert Solow, a Nobel laureate and professor emeritus at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “Seeing the rest of it filter through to the economy in the second half of the year will be extremely helpful.”


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Are you trying to create more panic??? tongue.gif
SELL SELL SELL!!!!!

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 12 2009, 03:33 PM)
time to take your money off the table.
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:42 PM

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I opt for no Buy and no sell now.

I think my RCE Cap and Fajar are able to withstand the panic sells.
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:44 PM

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anything down, will up soon. smile.gif
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post Aug 12 2009, 03:45 PM

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bubble or no bubble?
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Some news....

0732 GMT [Dow Jones] KLCI down 0.5% at 1,180.34 as declines in banking and utility stocks weigh. "The KLCI is facing selling pressure as retail investors take profit from recent gains following declines in Hang Seng, STI and China markets. Valuations are looking stretched and this downturn may be the beginning of the long-awaited correction," dealer says. Immediate support at 10-day moving average at 1,179, followed 1,164 (50% Fibonnaci retracement from fall to 801). Market breadth negative with 482 decliners vs 185 gainers. Among decliners, Maybank (1155.KU) down 3.3% at MYR6.55, Axiata (6888.KU) down 0.6% at MYR3.14, Telekom Malaysia (4863.KU) down 0.7% at MYR3.00, Tenaga (5347.KU) down 0.4% at MYR8.13. Government-linked companies fell on profit-taking, with Sime Darby (4197.KU) down 0.2% at MYR8.29. Bucking the trend, many plantation stocks advanced on CPO price strength. IOI Corp. (1961.KU) +0.8% at MYR5.16 and KL Kepong +1.7% at MYR13.00. (LES)


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post Aug 12 2009, 03:47 PM

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buy buy BUY!!!


Added on August 12, 2009, 3:47 pmbought waseong @ 2.08
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green packet @ 0.82 today!!!




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