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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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danmooncake
post Aug 15 2009, 04:33 AM

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Ding Ding Ding.. game over for this week. rclxms.gif

DJ 9321.40 -76.79 -0.82%
NAS 1985.52 -23.83 -1.19%
S&P500 1004.09 -8.64 -0.85%

Ok. The bears gave back some points at closing but overall, bears still won this week.

Two weeks ago, the weak consumer confidence report has no effect what so ever. Bulls still stampede.
Today, the same weak consumer confidence report scare the shit of the bulls. They retreated.

The way stocks being sold off early show how fragile and jittery we are at this level.
It clearly shows the market is already top heavy, getting ready to roll over.

Oil stocks sold off big time today.. crude drops from 70 to 67. May we see 60 next week? biggrin.gif

But, the banks remain resilient. BAC upgraded C. doh.gif
IMO, it is absolutely ridiculous that a bank upgrades another bank.
Another evil govt PPT at work here.

It will be interesting to see how things will fare next week.

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post Aug 17 2009, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Aug 16 2009, 07:13 PM)
we're in the same boat yea smile.gif my abp is 86
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It may want to see 0.70 first. Be ready to stomach through this. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 17 2009, 08:55 AM

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General Bears and his army will continue carnage this week. biggrin.gif

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090816/bs_nm/..._stocks_outlook

Earnings coming to end.. what else to rally.. right?
Time for Bears come out and play. rclxms.gif


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post Aug 17 2009, 09:08 AM

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Glad to see some bears here. .All aboard.
Let's all ride this baby down..yeah!! rclxms.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 09:24 AM

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Be patience, grasshopper, be patience.
Don't fill the gaps so fast. Let the panic selling subside first.. wait for the lowest dip
and let price move up a couple of ticks upward.




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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 17 2009, 09:57 AM)
Good Morning all,

Shopping day rclxms.gif
queuing to buy my usual ones + rce,nekobank,hlbank today..

Shanghai break 3000 points liao... now waiting to see HSI
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The next drop to 200MA could be nasty. We'll see if there is any panic selling.
Commodity prices could be pulling back big time.
danmooncake
post Aug 17 2009, 06:15 PM

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Already warned you guys about General Bear campaign since last week.

Shanghai and Dow are so overbought.
Even the news that Japan that is coming out of recession means nothing now.

This week is carnage time, clawing and slashing time!! rclxms.gif




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post Aug 17 2009, 09:29 PM

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I see a possible 10%-15% retracement for DOW for the next week or so.
Meaning, some of those stocks have been out-performed may also see more pullback.

So.. we been saying that we will depend on China on recovery. Everybody was bullish about China.
Now, China has been pulling back for the past 2 weeks.. lost over 500 points and it is not done yet.
It has been double top. It is going down!

Therefore, Dow wants to follow China now.
Dollar has been low and bottom. Dollar going up now!



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post Aug 17 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 17 2009, 10:51 PM)
That's the whole point.
In western economies - DEBT = WEALTH.
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Yes, the idea is the spend themselves into prosperity. doh.gif
Now.. why didn't we think of that huh? brows.gif







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post Aug 17 2009, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Aug 17 2009, 09:49 PM)
Aren't we all expecting this drop in djia?  LOL -150 is small now -182 (1.96%)... icon_question.gif

But i like it.  Tomorrow can pick what i want. hehehe thumbup.gif
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I wouldn't be so fast to pull the BUY trigger yet if you're long. When I said 10%-15% pullback, it means on general indices. Since some volatile stocks have moved up more, they could move down even more.

Stocks are clearly overbought.. hence the excuse here now are the retracement, profit taking, consumer sentiments.. all lump into one.

We shall see if there are buyers later at closing and if are, that means sideliners are still waiting.
If not, we'll continue to see down trend tomorrow and perhaps through the rest of the week.

Meanwhile, I'll just let my remaining shorts ride the bear. biggrin.gif

Oh yeah! Down Baby Down! rclxms.gif







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post Aug 18 2009, 12:19 AM

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Looks like Hurricane Bill is brewing along the bermuda coast heading towards southern US coast soon or gulf of mexico. If this turns into cat 5, the oil bulls will get a break. If not, oil will certainly re-test 55-60 range.

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LIONCrap? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 18 2009, 01:43 AM

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Mid day trading, DJ still at minus 3 digits: -170, S&P: -22, NAS: -50
No sideliner buyers. No PPT.

End of Day Update

DJ 9135.34 -186.06 -2.00%
NAS 1930.84 -54.68 -2.75%
S&P500 979.73 -24.36 -2.43%

Wow! No signs of buyers after the big unload this morning. At closing, we went down even further.
Dow got hit with rapid sell off in commodity and energy stocks this morning. Oil was hit bad. Now down
to around $66.

Normally, I would expect the bulls to come and pile back in but today is completely different.
No buyers even at end of day. It does look like the tide is turning here. tongue.gif

Funny how one little report last Friday - consumer sentiment was able to spook everyone off.

For the past two weeks China has been selling off already. Last Friday, we have confirmation when US consumers not spending as much, China continues to sell off even more. Maybe people finally coming to their bearish sense for real this time?

I think we'll continue to see some more downtrend from here. nod.gif

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 18 2009, 05:44 AM)
DMC,

now u must be feeling very happy... izzit? brows.gif
red army attack with full force tongue.gif
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I've peeked out from my bunker, I see rays of hope for Bears. biggrin.gif



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post Aug 18 2009, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 18 2009, 08:30 AM)
So, some ppl expecting KLCI to drop until 870...
Everyone panic sell!!!!  tongue.gif
Buy back at 870  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Even though I'm bearish, IMO KLCI @ 870 is pretty ridiculous call. doh.gif




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post Aug 18 2009, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 18 2009, 08:41 AM)
Bank Negara sees positive economic growth in Q4
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...29&sec=business
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Haha! What a joke! The whole world can also see growth in Q4. Growth as in "anemic". tongue.gif

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 18 2009, 08:43 AM)
Malaysia has lots of funny traders.
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Maybe they're thinking their BUY orders can go through the time machine that can send it back 6 months ago. wink.gif

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 18 2009, 08:51 AM)
ans thats why he is currently shorting in US market laugh.gif
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Well, I'm not the only one.. couple of us here already playing US market. More "syiok".
Just tired of being 'ikan bilis' in local market. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 18 2009, 08:51 AM)
Just to warn the bears that they have limited time to SHORT.

Good Time to transform to Bulls now, before they become unemployed. brows.gif  whistling.gif
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Nah.. bulls have 4-6 weeks of run..it is bears chance, we wanna see at least 2-3 weeks.
Must at least take back half of bulls got. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 18 2009, 08:57 AM)
eh...
if bears also run for 4-6 weeks, i think CI will very likely to fall till 870 lah..
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I wish that is true but in reality, I know it won't because the PPT won't let that happen. sad.gif


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