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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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SKY 1809
post Aug 14 2009, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 14 2009, 02:05 PM)
grandpa, what stocks are you holding now? tongue.gif
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Fajar baru, RCE Cap and MK Land only. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 14 2009, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(fatw3apon @ Aug 14 2009, 12:13 PM)
can someone explain what happen to YTL power and its warrant? how  come their warrant is having negative premium? hm..
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Because its mothershare always good dividend, which is disadvantage to the warrant holder, also gearing is low.

If really interested in this stock, I would rather go for mothershare directly which pay good dividend every year while warrant has none. So sum up why this warrant has negative premium becaus discounting the dividend issue.


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post Aug 14 2009, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 14 2009, 02:12 PM)
Because its mothershare always good dividend, which is disadvantage to the warrant holder, also gearing is low.

If really interested in this stock, I would rather go for mothershare directly which pay good dividend every year while warrant has none. So sum up why this warrant has negative premium becaus discounting the dividend issue.
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Thanks, what everyone thinks about YTL power? do you think 2.15 is cheap?
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post Aug 14 2009, 02:18 PM

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Isn't it ironic that everytime when a stock price decline, everyone will be asking whether cheap to go in whereas when the stock price is going up, no one will be thinking that it is too expensive to buy?
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post Aug 14 2009, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(fatw3apon @ Aug 14 2009, 02:16 PM)
Thanks, what everyone thinks about YTL power? do you think 2.15 is cheap?
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i got mine at 2.11 @ june...looks like its going back to square 1... lol

Shanghai - 90.11 (2.87%)
HSI - 164.75 (0.79%)

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post Aug 14 2009, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 14 2009, 02:18 PM)
i got mine at 2.11 @ june...looks like its going back to square 1... lol
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YTL Power is going big into Wimax.

Some fund managers could be switching out to other sectors.
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post Aug 14 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 14 2009, 01:03 PM)
Quite right.  thumbup.gif

The world financial market will crash big time in 2012.  The first country who leads the big down fall is none other than USA.
60-80% of their homes will under water, crushed under massive debt and not only that, I believe the USD will tank big time due
to printing by US govt.  Other currencies will follow as well.
  We may have to barter using precious metals like silver and gold.  Yes, I am serious.  nod.gif
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Only one way, if USD tank means some other currencies will go up, like AUD.

You cannot have all major currencies tank one, as currencies exchange rate is relative one. Cannot possible to have all go down, get what I mean.

USD tank means its value loss against Yen, AUD, Euro etc. You cannot have all tank together one, if all tank together, the exchange rate remain the same, then there is no tank at all. biggrin.gif

Unless saying people lose confidence on paper money which by then mean financial market meltdown already, everything worth little, even commodities. People only lose confidence in paper money in severe inflation time which is not happening right now.
People only lose confidence in money if those money cannot buy them something equivalent to.

This crisis has showed, you cannot escape if there is meltdown in financial market, everyone is a loser. See how crude dropped from 140 to 30, steel price dropped more than 50%, copper also same, gold value might be holding but not going up either.
No possible to have barter trade in gold, we have not enough gold for meet the amount of world trade currently. If there is, it just means another bubble/problem, gold price sky-rocketing.

Marke crash is not a major fear, in history we have crashed so many times, but eventually always recover. We had the most severe case of 1997 Asian crisis, everything was chaotic at that time, still we are through, and good stock make even higher than pre-1997 level now. (2x or 3x higher than pre-1997 level)

The higher probability in near future, is like what Japan had experience after the real estate bubble burst during 80's.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 14 2009, 02:04 PM)
Canned baked bean Currency  has the potentials to become International Currency replacing US$.

Mostly other currencies would be pegged to Canned Baked Beans.
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Absolutely - and don't forget, the man who controls the can-opener rules the world! brows.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 14 2009, 02:21 PM)
YTL Power is going big into Wimax.

Some fund managers could be switching out to other sectors.
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Surprisingly YTLE going up after the announcement
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 14 2009, 02:25 PM)
Surprisingly YTLE going up after the announcement
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YTLE is the company getting the Wimax, not YTLpower, if not mistaken.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 14 2009, 02:26 PM)
YTLE is the company getting the Wimax, not YTLpower, if not mistaken.
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Then Sky talking about YTLP going to WIMAX big time? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 14 2009, 02:28 PM)
Then Sky talking about YTLP going to WIMAX big time?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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YTLP got lots of cash, maybe they are investing in YTLE's WIMAX...
i didnt pay attn on the news, now a bit panic.. sweat.gif

woot TM is catching up to his bro... gogogogo,
aiyoh i think toto dun want me, queue only up 4cents... hmm.gif

is rcecap going through its own correction ? hehe chance may come...

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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 14 2009, 02:29 PM)
YTLP got lots of cash, maybe they are investing in YTLE's WIMAX...
i didnt pay attn on the news, now a bit panic..  sweat.gif
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Me too cry.gif
All the while YTLP is my FD
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 14 2009, 02:28 PM)
Then Sky talking about YTLP going to WIMAX big time?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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One is the Father ( got cash ) YTL Power

One is the son ( without cash ) E solution.

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yum yum, glove counter is tanking.

nobody is eyeing glovy?
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 14 2009, 02:29 PM)
YTLP got lots of cash, maybe they are investing in YTLE's WIMAX...
i didnt pay attn on the news, now a bit panic..  sweat.gif

woot TM is catching up to his bro... gogogogo,
aiyoh i think toto dun want me, queue only up 4cents...  hmm.gif

is rcecap going through its own correction ? hehe chance may come...
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Since TM has move, I think it is about time for YTLP to catch up with its siblings drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 14 2009, 02:47 PM)
Since TM has move, I think it is about time for YTLP to catch up with its siblings  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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the Maxis effect hmm.gif looks like all telco's are moving into position to welcome the return of the (self) delisted brethren.

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 14 2009, 01:03 PM)
Quite right.  thumbup.gif

The world financial market will crash big time in 2012.  The first country who leads the big down fall is none other than USA.
60-80% of their homes will under water, crushed under massive debt and not only that, I believe the USD will tank big time due
to printing by US govt.  Other currencies will follow as well.  We may have to barter using precious metals like silver and gold.  Yes, I am serious.  nod.gif
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like the banana banknote during japanese occupation.............
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 14 2009, 02:47 PM)
Since TM has move, I think it is about time for YTLP to catch up with its siblings  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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since YTLP is just investing the cash in hand, which has nothing to do with her utilities' stable earnings and dividend...
in fact if Wimax is succesful then we have a +...
safe to hold imo... hope im right.. laugh.gif
as for whether she will jalan or not, i dunno....
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Scammy come again... icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 14 2009, 02:40 PM)
yum yum, glove counter is tanking.

nobody is eyeing glovy?
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Waiting for TANJONG to go <15.00 and then I shall POUNCE! brows.gif

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