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post Nov 5 2009, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Nov 5 2009, 02:13 PM)
Is this something that can be solved by firmware update?
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I am not sure. I also wonder if Sony does it intentionally


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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Nov 5 2009, 02:15 PM)
it doesn't matter coz most BDs are 1080p anyways rite smile.gif
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Yes. Only concerts, some documentaries and the odd movie are 1080i.

Edit to include documentaries and the odd movie.

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post Nov 5 2009, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Nov 5 2009, 02:18 PM)
Any idea why concerts are 1080i?

Some editions of Planet Earth also 1080i.
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You're right, most documentaries and the odd movie is in 1080i. I edited my previous post to include these.

Live events are normally shot in CCD cameras and not normally shot on film. I believe they are primarily shot for broadcast and not for theater/cinema in mind. Same as documentaries. So that's one of the reasons why 1080i is chosen since that is primary mode of broadcast for the HD around the world.

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post Nov 6 2009, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Nov 6 2009, 08:54 AM)
Bro, SEC Butterworth near where? Thks
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Opposite the City Hall field, near the main police station.
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post Nov 12 2009, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Nov 12 2009, 10:03 PM)
Wah, price drop even more! Some more with free HDMI cable.

Which branch of SEC did you buy from?
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jchong,

I believe it was PWP with a display he bought.
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post Nov 12 2009, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Nov 12 2009, 06:14 PM)
eh...can bring this Sat ar...wanna test the audio quality, see can replace my CA Azur or not.
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CA Azur is using analogue outs correct? Then u might want to compare the analogue outs from the Oppo and not the HDMI. As a comparison then try the HDMI route.

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post Nov 14 2009, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(hsiengloong @ Nov 14 2009, 09:07 AM)
Mahal lar RM2.4k...

Buy Dune better tongue.gif
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I agree, if u do not need the fidelity of playing SACD and DVD-A and do not really need the upscaling portion, the Dune might be a better buy.

Also if u wanna let go of some of the Region B, send me a PM on the list and the next time we meet we can work something out.
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post Nov 14 2009, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Nov 14 2009, 05:56 PM)
Tested the Oppo BDP-83 vs Dune BD Prime 1.0 just now.....

Oppo load a lot faster and it's region hack does not need to press any code to change region, just put the disc & play while Dune need to select thr region 1st and loads quite slow.

PQ wise....almost identical
AQ wise.... Oppo produce a tag more details and slightly better mid range than the Dune.

Audio CD - Oppo BDP 83 vs Cambridge Audio Azur 640Cv2

The oppo is a litter bright to my liking and unlike the smoothness of the Azur, the high can be a bit harsh especially on the timbre sound....

However, Oppo being connected through HDMI and the Azur using analog, this might the differences came from.
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Try it with the analogue outs, its less bright thru the analogue outs. I believe with the new DACs it will sound better as well. SACDs sound fantastic though, as do DVD-A. The analogue outs use different DACs.




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post Nov 15 2009, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 15 2009, 04:23 PM)
for this kind of price 3k.. wouldn't it be easier to buy two cheapo Region A and region B players and also Dune or C-200 , three units all in one..  biggrin.gif
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Most definately, but I would like to stress that there are differences even in PQ, would u realize it is what matters. Also if u needed the SACD, DVD-A player.

If all u r looking for is a multi region player, ar188's approach is the best, especially if u r watching it in a screen <50in. If u r projecting it on a large screen, looking for a very good DVD upscaler (old school I know, but there are people with a large collection that might not all get upgraded to BD), watch a lot of concerts at 1080i, need multi region and have a substantial SACD, DVD-A collection, the Oppo is for u.

Else, follow ar188s suggestion, get a cheapo region A and another region B player, u will not see the differences.

BTW, how much is the Dune now? That is an interesting product, would like to get my hands on one to test the PQ.


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Nov 16 2009, 11:03 AM)
Tested the Oppo BDP-83 against taukeh mpyw' Dune. I think it is a mod ver. It plays other reg BDs directly w/o the need to switch to the desired reg. This is convenient compares to Dune.

On video setting, BDP-83 comes with auto mode. So, you need not to switch it. The colour saturation (correct term?) of BDP-83 is marginally better than Dune. No visible bleeding and nice tone too.

On AQ, Oppo has less harsher treble. It has better control in this. Other than that, it is similar. For CD, do not have enough time to test using analog.

Oh yes, Oppo built quality looks good and the packaging can put those Japanese giant brands to shame.
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For PQ, changing the colour space (it has 4:2:2, 4:4:4, RGB 16-235, RGB 0-255 and 4:2:0) is necessary to squeeze a little bit more from the player and ur display. The auto selection will mostly check the EDID from the display and since he is using the Pioneer it will send out a 4:4:4 signal. If the correct Deep Colour setting was not set (ie, 36bit (dithered), or Deep Colour off(dithered)) u lose a bit. Again, this is splitting hairs. Will u see it on source material, unless u really look and u have a big display u might not even see the difference and more that likely 95% of the people could care less.

There a a myriad of adjustments on the Oppo BDP-83 that can give u the extra 1% from ur display, however, will u need it is purely up to u.

I also checked out the Sony BD360. Surprisingly, there is slight enhancement on the Sharpness that I do not like and cannot defeat. I noticed it immediately when jchong,ronnt88 and I put on some movies and confirmed it later with the test patterns which I showed to them. This is very unlike Sony and I believe it is to counter the Panny BD60 (which also has additional sharpness enhanced but it can be reduced, the 360 did not have a sharpness knob I could reduce).

The PS3 however is very neutral compared to the 360.

There are differences between players, but only if u look closely.
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MPC CLub Hi-Jack's review of Dune BD Prime 3.0 is out.

Enjoy..

Anyone knows if I can get my hands on one for calibration purposes or from Spore, pls pm me.

Thanks

MPC Club Review Link

Edit:

Apparently, 1st batch has problems, I guess we need to wait.

MPC Club Temporary Warning

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post Nov 19 2009, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Nov 19 2009, 12:01 AM)
Tempted to go for the Pioneer BDP-120 or Oppo BDP-83. But Oppo is quite expensive.
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bro,

If i may, the 120 is a Sharp rebadge and is pretty dismal. If u want the Pio, minimum is the 320, LX52 is better.

Of course, Oppo does fine as well, the region free is the advantage IMHO.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 20 2009, 08:24 AM)
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Features

The OPPO BDP-83 Special Edition Blu-ray Disc Player is an exciting upgrade based on the highly acclaimed BDP-83. Already well known for its exceptional audio and video performance, the BDP-83 is upgraded with an all new analog audio stage and improved power supply to become the Special Edition. Designed for the discerning audio enthusiast, the OPPO BDP-83 Special Edition Blu-ray Disc Player delivers an exceptionally wide dynamic range, ultra low distortion, accurate sound stage and jitter-free music clarity via its dedicated stereo and 7.1ch analog audio output.

The OPPO BDP-83 Special Edition uses the state-of-the-art Sabre32 family of Digital-to-Analog Converters (DAC) from ESS Technology. The Sabre32 family is known as one of the industry's highest performance audio DACs and are often found in high-end audiophile and professional equipments. The OPPO BDP-83 Special Edition uses an 8-channel Sabre Premier (ES9006) DAC chip for its 7.1 multi-channel output. The dedicated stereo output uses another 8-channel Sabre32 Ultra (ES9016) DAC chip by stacking 4 DACs for each of the Left and Right channels to achieve even greater audio performance.

Just like the BDP-83 it is based on, the OPPO BDP-83 Special Edition is a Profile 2.0 Blu-ray player featuring bit-stream and full decoding capability for high resolution audio tracks such as Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. Designed for both home theater viewers and music listeners, it plays DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD (SACD) and standard CD with excellent video and audio performance in addition to Blu-ray Discs. For a detailed list of features, please refer to the BDP-83 Features and Specifications page.

OPPO Digital recommends the BDP-83 Special Edition to customers who primarily use the analog audio output to connect to either a dedicated stereo or a multi-channel surround system. For customers who primarily use the HDMI output to connect to an A/V receiver or directly to a TV/projector, and for customers who primarily use the optical/coaxial digital audio output, the standard BDP-83 is recommended.
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83SE/
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Mainly for analogue outs. For those who truly believe in using it a universal player. I will hope to compare a SE with a normal edition for 2 channel stereo when I can get it done.

While the 2 channel playback is good, I believe it can be made better with some modifications. The DAC is the 1st step, but I believe some improvements to the power supply side is also necessary.

Then again, for those who only use HDMI, this upgrade is not necessary.
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Nov 20 2009, 09:55 AM)
depends how much is the difference, couse if the PSU has been upgraded, i guess will affect the 7.1 and also PQ

extract for older AVR's

The OPPO BDP-83 Special Edition uses the state-of-the-art Sabre32 family of Digital-to-Analog Converters (DAC) from ESS Technology. The Sabre32 family is known as one of the industry's highest performance audio DACs and are often found in high-end audiophile and professional equipments. The OPPO BDP-83 Special Edition uses an 8-channel Sabre Premier (ES9006) DAC chip for its 7.1 multi-channel output. The dedicated stereo output uses another 8-channel Sabre32 Ultra (ES9016) DAC chip by stacking 4 DACs for each of the Left and Right channels to achieve even greater audio performance.
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The power supply is upgraded however, it is not state of the art yet.

All analogue outs are improved so that includes 7.1 outs as well.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 24 2009, 08:16 PM)
Why is it, when i set my video color setting to 4-4-4 the video image intermitten disappear
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Which display? Possibly ur display does not support 4:4:4 (Deep Colour)
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 25 2009, 09:59 AM)
Found out the problem, my led lcd tv support i0 bit signalling video but i set to 12 bit from output from my blu rar. Thats why intermitten display blackout.
any way thanks bro.
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Cool. So u need to send a 4:2:2 signal. What display is that?
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 25 2009, 11:19 AM)
I dont know what is really 4-4-4-or 4-2-2, can please enlighten.
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Chroma subsampling. Same as what u r refering to, can u pls let me know what BD player and display u use.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 25 2009, 11:33 AM)
My BD player is Sony BD360 n display setting is 1080p/24p
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Display (TV)? Sharp correct?

I think Sharp does not accept the 12 bit signal.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 28 2009, 06:37 PM)
Ya ,my sharp led lcd tv only have 10 bit processor signal, but after i set to 10 bit everything fine, even set to 4-4-4 also no problem. Questio which one is better 4-4-4 or 4-2-2.
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U need to use some test discs to see which one works better. It depends on ur set and ur BD player. However, unless u look, it will be difficult to spot the differences. I would suggest keeping it at 4:4:4 if u do not have the S&M test disc.

10 bit....is 30 bitcolour.
12 bit....is 36 bitcolour
16bit.....is 48 bitcolour - Pio BD players have this option.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 29 2009, 06:17 PM)
I guess present lcd tv only 10 bit processing color n is the highest if i am not wrong.
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I think the Sony sets might be 12bit. Not really sure of the Sammys.

The Pio plasmas were 12bits 2 gens ago.
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QUOTE(w00lvie @ Nov 30 2009, 12:48 PM)
some noobie question.

does Blu-Ray player support playing VCD?  reason i ask is... well... long story cut short... one shop here told me ALL blu-ray player doesnt support VCD.  so just wonder if its true, or is it just Pioneer BD player.  tongue.gif
also, would like to check what (blu-ray) region code is Pana BD-60.  thanks.
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In case u need to know, Oppo BDP-83 plays back VCDs ok.

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