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TSckf8829
post Aug 5 2009, 08:13 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hi,

Recently bought a set of 5.1 speaker (Boston) & found out the sound is not clear. If i replace the center speaker with Klipsch RC52 or etc, will it help to make the sound clearer (especially during playing song )?

Hope all the expert will help.

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post Aug 5 2009, 08:22 PM

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Centre more for vocal ... If refer to music/instrument, then front L/R are crucial.

Didn't own any Klipsh, paiseh. But I heard is great for HT setup.
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post Aug 5 2009, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Aug 5 2009, 08:22 PM)
Centre more for vocal ...  If refer to music/instrument, then front L/R are crucial.

Didn't own any Klipsh, paiseh.  But I heard is great for HT setup.
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post Aug 5 2009, 08:32 PM

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htkaki got sell kelip kelip..
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post Aug 5 2009, 08:46 PM

hmm...
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Aug 5 2009, 08:22 PM)
Centre more for vocal ...  If refer to music/instrument, then front L/R are crucial.

Didn't own any Klipsh, paiseh.  But I heard is great for HT setup.
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Common misperception....center speaker is more that just for vocal. It's 60% of the movie biggrin.gif
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:05 PM

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Does it mean even i bought a new center speaker will not help to clarifythe sound?
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:17 PM

hmm...
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It means....good center speaker will help a lot in overall sound.
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:17 PM

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I assume you mean those DVD or BD audio rite? Cos if normal Audio CD, the sound only comes from the Front LR speakers...

If for movies, changing to a better center e.g. RC52 or FCC1 sure will improve the clarity in dialogue
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:20 PM

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maybe try dynaudio... kicik tapi cili padi biggrin.gif
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:24 PM

hmm...
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yep for movies la with 5.1 or more
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:26 PM

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I remembered the good old days when there was only 2 speakers, and with the proper setup, the staging felt very right with drums, guitars, bass, backup singers and lead singer easily identified of their position...

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post Aug 5 2009, 09:35 PM

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ok. If center is good for movie but if need clarify for audio cd need go for both L/R speaker, rite? In other word, i need to change whole set le... tongue.gif & my 5.1 speaker only 3 days old...omg rclxub.gif
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(ckf8829 @ Aug 5 2009, 09:35 PM)
ok. If center is good for movie but if need clarify for audio cd need go for both L/R speaker, rite? In other word, i need to change whole set le... tongue.gif  & my 5.1 speaker only 3 days old...omg rclxub.gif
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Did you go for audition to test 1st before purchase the goods? Center speaker for vocal upon 5.1 channel set up.There are many ranges depends yr budget to spend.Some SQ are mellow and some high clarity and some more depth.
Also depends with yr liking taste.Hope this will help you.
Likewise with me which i tested alots brands for center speaker and my budget with below rm800 but endup i got NHT for rm1.8k biggrin.gif
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:48 PM

hmm...
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that's why need to audition before buying but dont fret la...i think most of us have been in ur situation before tongue.gif

enjoy whay u have 1st so later when u upgrade u will enjoy n appreciate more.
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:54 PM

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Well, you dont really need center speaker for music stuff. Its only useful for movies with positional effect like DTS or DD.

The reason being, music is stereo and even with Dolby Prologic and similar sound processing algorithm, what they did is mix both left and right and play it out probably with some effect which done more harm than good in whichever way. Besides, since center speaker focus primarily on vocals, they aint really that good sounding compared to say, your front speakers.
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post Aug 5 2009, 10:19 PM

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I also plan to change my AE109C centre speaker to bigger n better one
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post Aug 5 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(ckf8829 @ Aug 5 2009, 08:13 PM)
Hi,

Recently bought a set of 5.1 speaker (Boston) & found out the sound is not clear. If i replace the center speaker with Klipsch RC52 or etc, will it help to make the sound clearer (especially during playing song )?

Hope all the expert will help.

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Hate to say this since it has already been said, but .. you should have auditioned the speakers first leh... nod.gif

You said 'sound' not clear but what you mean by 'sound'. If you mean dialogue, yes, can think of changing centre. If music/soundtrack, then have to change Fronts.

If its just three days old, why not ask for a change? Expecially if its from those Audio Shops, can nego wan.

BTW, did you buy it fr Lowyat?


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post Aug 5 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Aug 5 2009, 10:44 PM)
Hate to say this since it has already been said, but ..  you should have auditioned the speakers first leh...  nod.gif

You said 'sound' not clear but what you mean by 'sound'.  If you mean dialogue, yes, can think of changing centre.  If music/soundtrack, then have to change Fronts. 

If its just three days old, why not ask for a change?  Expecially if its from those Audio Shops, can nego wan. 

BTW, did you buy it fr Lowyat?
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I did test b4 buy but due to my budget ~2 to 3k for both AVR & speakers , the shop recommend 2 choices - 1. Denon DHT390 & 2. Boston + Denon 1509..after testing, the 2nd set obviously having better performance....but when i go back home & found out the sound is not so clear especially compare to my bro set (Wharfedale speakers + Pioneer AVR & more expensive)... sweat.gif ...But the set is actually good for movie but not in audio music & dialogue..so thinking to improve to make it "all rounded" for both music & movie.... smile.gif ..now feeling a thorn inside my heart as not perfect yet... blush.gif

i bought this in Mediaplex in Midvalley... i dont think they allow me to change as already open box.. sad.gif

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post Aug 5 2009, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(ckf8829 @ Aug 5 2009, 11:06 PM)
I did test b4 buy but due to my budget ~2 to 3k for both AVR & speakers , the shop recommend 2 choices - 1. Denon DHT390 & 2. Boston + Denon 1509..after testing, the 2nd set obviously having better performance....but when i go back home & found out the sound is not so clear especially compare to my bro set (Wharfedale speakers + Pioneer AVR & more expensive)...  sweat.gif ...But the set is actually good for movie but not in audio music & dialogue..so thinking to improve to make it "all rounded" for both music & movie.... smile.gif ..now feeling a thorn inside my heart as not perfect yet... blush.gif

i bought this in Mediaplex in Midvalley... i dont think they allow me to change as already open box.. sad.gif
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You drive Kancil then dun say BMW faster lerr... laugh.gif

Seriously, just enjoy what you have la, drive Kancil also can look good for some who have to take bus wink.gif

I also think you shud try talk to Mediaplex. Try le... Good Luck!
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post Aug 5 2009, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Aug 5 2009, 11:22 PM)
You drive Kancil then dun say BMW faster lerr...  laugh.gif

Seriously, just enjoy what you have la, drive Kancil also can look good for some who have to take bus  wink.gif

I also think you shud try talk to Mediaplex.  Try le...  Good Luck!
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post Aug 6 2009, 07:44 AM

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Good center normally start at min RM 1.5k and above. There is a value buy in Aurum Cantus center speaker for less than RM 1.5k including shipping to Malaysia. It is using ribbon tweeter.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Aug 5 2009, 09:26 PM)
I remembered the good old days when there was only 2 speakers, and with the proper setup, the staging felt very right with drums, guitars, bass, backup singers and lead singer easily identified of their position...
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Any reason why we can't have that now? I always listen to music in stereo/pure audio. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 6 2009, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Aug 6 2009, 07:44 AM)
Good center normally start at min RM 1.5k and above. There is a value buy in Aurum Cantus center speaker for less than RM 1.5k including shipping to Malaysia. It is using ribbon tweeter.
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interesting find... where do you find the pricing?

does this look familiar..? hmm.gif
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post Aug 6 2009, 09:37 AM

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This one is goddess. Quite expensive.

Moon River Center -
http://www.cattylink.com/page132.html

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post Aug 6 2009, 09:57 AM

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but it's 4ohm wor....need very powerful amp to drive if your L/R also 4 ohm
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post Aug 6 2009, 11:08 AM

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Actually most receiver can play at 4ohm. Denon and Yamaha had no problem. Even Onkyo also no problem. 4ohm is fine as long as it don't dip to low 2 Ohm.
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QUOTE(ckf8829 @ Aug 5 2009, 11:06 PM)
I did test b4 buy but due to my budget ~2 to 3k for both AVR & speakers , the shop recommend 2 choices - 1. Denon DHT390 & 2. Boston + Denon 1509..after testing, the 2nd set obviously having better performance....but when i go back home & found out the sound is not so clear especially compare to my bro set (Wharfedale speakers + Pioneer AVR & more expensive)...  sweat.gif ...But the set is actually good for movie but not in audio music & dialogue..so thinking to improve to make it "all rounded" for both music & movie.... smile.gif ..now feeling a thorn inside my heart as not perfect yet... blush.gif

i bought this in Mediaplex in Midvalley... i dont think they allow me to change as already open box.. sad.gif
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It's hard to expect a speaker set at that price to be perfect. If you compared to your bro's more expensive set then not a fair comparison. You get what you pay for.

Anyway, do try going back to Mediaplex and ask. No harm in at least asking if you can upgrade. They might do trade in.
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post Aug 6 2009, 05:20 PM

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for music...better stick to stereo...so u dont need a centre for that...unless u listen to SADC or smthing...but to me, the core music must come from stereo, i.e. the left and right

so check the stereo staging first....

centre is generally meant for dialogue in a 5.1 set-up
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post Aug 6 2009, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 6 2009, 12:13 PM)
It's hard to expect a speaker set at that price to be perfect. If you compared to your bro's more expensive set then not a fair comparison. You get what you pay for.

Anyway, do try going back to Mediaplex and ask. No harm in at least asking if you can upgrade. They might do trade in.
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just call Mediaplex, they may allow me to upgrade but need to confirm with my saleperson again on Saturday..THey told me that having sale on Athena speaker on 50%. Can any1 tell how was the performance?..i check online it seem like the company have acquired by klipsch..dunno quaility good or not..Thanks
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post Aug 6 2009, 10:16 PM

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Klipsch bought Athena?
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post Aug 6 2009, 10:46 PM

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Klipsch bought Athena?
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erh...i am wrong..shud be manufacture & distribute through klipsch..... sweat.gif

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