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TScyberion86
post Jul 29 2009, 12:50 AM, updated 17y ago

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Hunting for a center speaker around RM500 to pair with current PSB Alpha T1.

From AV Fair,
Athena AS-C1.2 RM549
Polk Audio CS1 RM499

How was PSB Alpha C1 compared to these models?



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post Jul 29 2009, 07:00 AM

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i saw mission MC3i selling RM 399
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post Jul 29 2009, 07:15 AM

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A lot of info can be found here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=862926
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post Jul 29 2009, 07:33 AM

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what are your front speakers? the center should match these
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post Jul 29 2009, 07:39 AM

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Better get the same brand for center speaker for timbre matching. Also, you should invest in a good center speaker as for HT, 60% of the sound is from center.
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post Jul 29 2009, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jul 29 2009, 07:39 AM)
Better get the same brand for center speaker for timbre matching. Also, you should invest in a good center speaker as for HT, 60% of the sound is from center.
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Yes,u are rite.Center speaker are the important role for dialoque.That's why i invest rm1.6k for center speaker(NHT) after going for audition many types of cnter speaker.
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post Jul 29 2009, 07:58 AM

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Not only same brand, but same model series as well. Timbre matching for the front LCR is very important. nod.gif
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post Jul 29 2009, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 29 2009, 07:58 AM)
Not only same brand, but same model series as well. Timbre matching for the front LCR is very important. nod.gif
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Will that make a big difference?
I bought the FCC2 (4ohm) as my center speaker after many rounds of audition
and found that it's the best for me which suited my budget
but then if i were to get the front LR speakers with the same model
All my LCR will be 4 ohm speakers which i think my avr will have to work very hard drive them

As I'm currently still hunting for front LR speakers
shd I just go for 8/6 ohm speakers? rclxub.gif

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post Jul 29 2009, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Jul 29 2009, 09:55 AM)
Will that make a big difference?
I bought the FCC2 (4ohm) as my center speaker after many rounds of audition
and found that it's the best for me which suited my budget
but then if i were to get the front LR speakers with the same model
All my LCR will be 4 ohm speakers which i think my avr will have to work very hard drive them

As I'm currently still hunting for front LR speakers
shd I just go for 8/6 ohm speakers? rclxub.gif
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Yes, 4 ohm is harder to drive, I think Onkyo 875 can drive all channel at 4 ohm. Not sure, have to read the manual again but there is a option for 4 ohm speakers.

Each model will have specific materials, technology, design etc. This gives them the sonic characteristics, which makes it sound differently especially with different brands. Heck, I even have matching cables for my front LCR. tongue.gif

But I guess, as with all things audiophile, it's just you to decide in the end. If you hear that all the speakers blend nicely together, then by all means let it be. All these things are just tips and guides, not a rule. nod.gif
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post Jul 29 2009, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(choontoy @ Jul 29 2009, 07:53 AM)
Yes,u are rite.Center speaker are the important role for dialoque.That's why i invest rm1.6k for center speaker(NHT) after going for audition many types of cnter speaker.
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What model is your NHT? saw one very nice selling about RM1,400. Black color with piano material board.
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post Jul 29 2009, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 29 2009, 11:42 AM)
Yes, 4 ohm is harder to drive, I think Onkyo 875 can drive all channel at 4 ohm. Not sure, have to read the manual again but there is a option for 4 ohm speakers.

Each model will have specific materials, technology, design etc. This gives them the sonic characteristics, which makes it sound differently especially with different brands. Heck, I even have matching cables for my front LCR. tongue.gif

But I guess, as with all things audiophile, it's just you to decide in the end. If you hear that all the speakers blend nicely together, then by all means let it be. All these things are just tips and guides, not a rule. nod.gif
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thanks for ur info, bro notworthy.gif
i think just let my ear to decide
anyhow 4ohm LR speakers are not cheap though sweat.gif
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post Jul 29 2009, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(andychucky @ Jul 29 2009, 12:43 PM)
What model is your NHT?  saw one very nice selling about RM1,400. Black color with piano material board.
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NHT CC1 or C1 (can't remember)This are older version not the latest version as still made in USA.
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post Jul 29 2009, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(choontoy @ Jul 29 2009, 02:19 PM)
NHT CC1 or C1 (can't remember)This are older version not the latest version as still made in USA.
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I think the one that i saw is NHT-N3CB, the quality quite good
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post Jul 29 2009, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Jul 29 2009, 07:33 AM)
what are your front speakers? the center should match these
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mentioned in the 1st thread. PSB Alpha T1


Added on July 29, 2009, 5:19 pm
QUOTE(choontoy @ Jul 29 2009, 07:53 AM)
Yes,u are rite.Center speaker are the important role for dialoque.That's why i invest rm1.6k for center speaker(NHT) after going for audition many types of cnter speaker.
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my budget only RM500++. BTW, which LR u paired with ur center?

This post has been edited by cyberion86: Jul 29 2009, 05:19 PM
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post Jul 30 2009, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Jul 29 2009, 09:55 AM)
Will that make a big difference?
I bought the FCC2 (4ohm) as my center speaker after many rounds of audition
and found that it's the best for me which suited my budget
but then if i were to get the front LR speakers with the same model
All my LCR will be 4 ohm speakers which i think my avr will have to work very hard drive them

As I'm currently still hunting for front LR speakers
shd I just go for 8/6 ohm speakers? rclxub.gif
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Actually the most ideal situation is using the exact same speaker for LCR, e.g. all floorstanders/bookshelves same model. However, this poses difficulty for the center because the floorstander/bookshelf speaker would obstruct the TV.

So that's why they came up with a compromise design, horizontal center speaker. Easier to fit either below or above the TV.

So the 2nd best situation is LCR from same brand and series. In theory this should yield the best matching. However, like you I have the FCC2 and used it with the PSB T55. To my ears they blended quite well. There was no obvious mismatch. So in the end you have to judge with your own ears.

I suppose you're planning to upgrade LR next? What are u using now?


Added on July 30, 2009, 3:28 pm
QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 29 2009, 11:42 AM)
Yes, 4 ohm is harder to drive, I think Onkyo 875 can drive all channel at 4 ohm. Not sure, have to read the manual again but there is a option for 4 ohm speakers.
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The 875 does have a 4 ohm mode. Trouble is that in this mode the power output is restricted to about 55-60W/channel to keep the amp section cooler and not so easy to clip.

I run my 876 in normal mode. Yes it does get quite a bit warmer, so I use an external fan. But I find that normal mode gives me more detail and dynamics.

This post has been edited by jchong: Jul 30 2009, 03:28 PM
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post Jul 30 2009, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 30 2009, 03:23 PM)
Actually the most ideal situation is using the exact same speaker for LCR, e.g. all floorstanders/bookshelves same model. However, this poses difficulty for the center because the floorstander/bookshelf speaker would obstruct the TV.

So that's why they came up with a compromise design, horizontal center speaker. Easier to fit either below or above the TV.

So the 2nd best situation is LCR from same brand and series. In theory this should yield the best matching. However, like you I have the FCC2 and used it with the PSB T55. To my ears they blended quite well. There was no obvious mismatch. So in the end you have to judge with your own ears.

I suppose you're planning to upgrade LR next? What are u using now?
currently using PSB T1 with yammy 363. Would PSB C40 match with T1, since it's from different series?
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post Jul 30 2009, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 30 2009, 03:23 PM)
Actually the most ideal situation is using the exact same speaker for LCR, e.g. all floorstanders/bookshelves same model. However, this poses difficulty for the center because the floorstander/bookshelf speaker would obstruct the TV.

So that's why they came up with a compromise design, horizontal center speaker. Easier to fit either below or above the TV.

So the 2nd best situation is LCR from same brand and series. In theory this should yield the best matching. However, like you I have the FCC2 and used it with the PSB T55. To my ears they blended quite well. There was no obvious mismatch. So in the end you have to judge with your own ears.

I suppose you're planning to upgrade LR next? What are u using now?
now using pariah LR speakers
yup, next upgrade will be LR speakers
FCC2's same family of LR speakers are definitely out coz out of budget
and also have no confidence on my avr to drive them sweat.gif

now eyeing Dali Ikon 6
the only concern is whether it can blend well with FCC2 hmm.gif
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post Jul 31 2009, 12:15 AM

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Anyone can help me, my center speaker have something noise like tzzzz.. sound. What is the problem? Is that the speaker's problem or Amp's problem or the wire's problem??? rclxub.gif
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post Jul 31 2009, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(WCH69 @ Jul 31 2009, 12:15 AM)
Anyone can help me, my center speaker have something noise like tzzzz.. sound. What is the problem? Is that the speaker's problem or Amp's problem or the wire's problem??? rclxub.gif
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r u using CRT TV?
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post Jul 31 2009, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Jul 30 2009, 11:55 PM)
now eyeing Dali Ikon 6
the only concern is whether it can blend well with FCC2 hmm.gif
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I'm sure A&L would be more than happy to demo for u in their showroom. Test it out and let your ears be the judge.


Added on July 31, 2009, 10:00 am
QUOTE(cyberion86 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:39 PM)
currently using PSB T1 with yammy 363. Would PSB C40 match with T1, since it's from different series?
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I don't see anything wrong about pairing C40 with T1, even though they are from different series. The C40 price is about 1k I think.

If you want same series as your T1 then you should get the C1. The price also would be closer to your budget of RM500.

This post has been edited by jchong: Jul 31 2009, 10:00 AM

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