How true is it?? How far can u agree???

*goldfries sez : i edited the 1st post, better formatting helps.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Aug 5 2009, 08:23 AM

shit man, you're posting crap all over the place.

what is it you're trying to prove? starting so many topics but from what I see, almost all your thread goes like "How true is it?? How far can u agree???"

in mind opinion there's a difference between intelligent discussion and asking people what they think out of randomness.

you seem to fall under the latter.

and what's this pattern of yours starting so many topics that have RELIGIOUS ties?

Is wrong to post philosophical question at this section???...Seeking answer or discussion???

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1117268

you, are a damn lousy learner.

your 1st thread also got bashed like silly already and now you're still doing the same thing.

you post question only, like that everyone could also do la.

how about you put your own thoughts in the 1st post, at least we get to see WHAT kind of discussion level are we getting into.

don't waste people's time when you don't even put your own effort into it.

since you so clever ask people's opinion, you should post your own opinion first.

it is a courtesy to do that in philosophy forum....Like in KUngfu, u always post a posture like WOng fei Hong and A word "Chi" mean u 1st...OR lady 1st...But i did post my thought at the 2nd threads and so on...SO u just annoyed by the quantity of topic i created?? That is one way for me to introduce philosophy to Malaysian, and now i indeed received some message from others asking me about philosophy...Adapt it goldfries...PHilosophy is not about just answer the question, but question the answer....Rather than asnwer your thought, u question ur thought...this is what philsopher do...OK??

This post has been edited by communist892003: Aug 5 2009, 08:09 AM

yeah right, look at this post.

you quoted "Stephen Huong" then ask a question, you didn't even bother to share your own opinion first.

regardless, i don't care how you do it in your philosophy forum. in LYN - you post something, you'd better share your own thoughts / opinions along.

the reason i'm coming down hard on you is because I've seen how others advised you yet nothing seem to go through your thick skull.

now, post your opinion / thoughts along, or an elaboration. or don't post at all. simple as that.

your best thread so far is http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1117274

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Added on August 5, 2009, 8:12 amyes. since you question your own thoughts, I'm sure you have some answers of your own to the questions of your own thoughts.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Aug 5 2009, 08:12 AM

Stephen Huong is my name....On the 1st thread, dreamer told me is better to do so...to prove that is my orginal thoughts....LOL

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Added on August 5, 2009, 8:14 amIs it matter so much to be the 1st to elaborate?? It was a simple quote and i guess most of the ppl would probably understand it...That is the beauty of quote...PPl tend to feel asleep if they read too much...I am trying to be flexible...Am i wrong to do so??

This post has been edited by communist892003: Aug 5 2009, 08:14 AM

LOL. how da heck we're suppose to know that. (your name)

k. it's getting a little messy but i put it simple to you la.

in LYN - it's a practice for people to post their opinion / thought along.

starting so many threads with just questions and no thought of your own, it pretty much looks like spam work.

it's not like we don't welcome you, we do. but from how LYN operates, it's advisable you share your thoughts as well.

For example in your above.

you could let us know how true think it is, or what's holding you back from accepting it as being truth or falsehood, which also applies to the "how far can you agree" part.

get it?

IF expressing urself or elaborate ur thought is so important, why cant i just do it at blogs??? This forum is for discussion rite???

people won't fall asleep if you have your points.

not asking you to write a whole essay.

have your points at least, start the conversation. not just the question but your own thoughts. after all it'll add to the discussion.

OK

you're missing the point here.

this is a forum for discussion, you share your thoughts - people have more things to ask you, or even pose questions to your thoughts. no?

after all you did mention philosophy is questioning of answers. then same, you could provide your answer for others to question, in the spirit of philosophy.

erm simple concept is, i can start babbling about philosophy but i do so by creating 20 threads

everyone is everywhere

things get confusing and messed up

and dont forget theres a high chance of flaming going on.

oh yeah btw not everyone believes in god

Not that i'm being biased here.

I tend to agree a lil bit on goldfries.
TS have started soooo mannnnyyy topics and definitely I also can feel how irritating it was.

I am agnostic exsea...I question god than believe GOD...Well, there is others reason why i post so many threads...Because all i get is not a discussion but pit-pointing and criticism...Which is wat i expected...which does not satisfied my experiment...I can post this threads in global philosophy forum with hundred of reply and opinions and yet i do it at here...U should question my motive for that...Of coz i wish to change malaysian's perception about philosophy, but the truth is i am trying to understand my own society...AM i wrong for that??
In few weeks time or days u might probably wont see me again posting anything, which mean i got my answer...Like Dr.House ( but i am an idiot)

IF i can find any Malaysian philosophy forum, of coz i wont be here...So all i wan is to see how ppl react to philosophy...

if you're posting for the sake of experiment then i'd say you better not post at all.

sincere threads yes, but you're doing it for experiment only.

funny thing about you is that you say you want to understand your society but you have time and again fail to even understand the society and culture of the forum, despite the many corrections and points people give.

look, stop going around being an arrogant fellow wanting your way. I've already told you how you should go about there.

and stop comparing it with your other global forum, it's like saying you can walk topless in florida beach by why can't do it in M'sia - learn to understand that the forums and their rules vary.

Ya, this is what i do now...dont translate the words "experiment" literally...My defination of experiment is no matter what result it come out, bad or good, i will accepted it...I do it because i am trying to understand...I am not wanting my way, i just offer a new way that i think is a good way...If u talk or discuss philosophy with a Malaysian in reality, u probably end up debate or argument or even fight...i am so impressed by how the ppl in western or around the world could discussed with philosophy with such manner...that seldom end up in quarreling...it stunned me for the 1st time...That 1st thought crossed to my mind is our politician should try it...maybe the parliment wouldnt end up like pasar malam again

Look he means just finish off each one of your threads before starting new ones.

The way you do it as if you're posting for the sake of attention, not to learn anything.

Yeap, because i dont expected i could learn anything about philosophy at here, just learn about the ppl...

ur not learning bout people either. when people learn something, they change. u dont.

change in term of what?? instant speculation again??

stop being an attention whore.

All religions are monument of self-importance. Since self-importance is the biggest enemy of men, you know how religions affect the laities.

I know only one GOD exists, which I call it the infinity.

Our lot as a human is that we ourselves are self-sufficient and complete beings. Everything is equal to everything else in the eyes of the infinity. But there are some people, who think they are better than everything else, who like to enslave people to work for them, ie , the tyrant/ government / religion masters and ec ectera, ec ectera.

Self-importance is man's greatest enemy. What weakens him is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of his fellow men. Self-importance requires that one spend most of one's life offended by something or someone.--Don Juan (http://www.whale.to/b/ego_q.html)

"He (Krishnamurti) said he did not want to belong to any organization of a spiritual kind, because such an organization becomes a weakness, a bondage, and cripples the individual. He said that he did not want any followers or disciples, because the moment you follow someone you cease to follow Truth. He said that no one holds the key to Truth, that key is your own self, and in the purification and incorruptibility of that self alone."---Asit Chandmal (one Thousand Suns)




This post has been edited by darksider: Aug 5 2009, 01:53 PM

Little Ghost....stop been a jerk...Kalau tak suka, keluar dari sini
Why not treating it like i am advertising philosophy???Like Marketing strategic....Why are u been so absolute judge, pessimist??? Is it how u think u had been treated cool and smart or wise?? U know me an minutes and u said i am watever u think i am....Great intuition u had, spiderman

It takes two to shack hands, but only one to throw a punch

This post has been edited by communist892003: Aug 6 2009, 07:28 AM

To talk about "Philosophy" than your thoughts doesn't count.
We have to remember that there's atheist who doesn't believe in the concept of God "creating" humans.

So if that's the case, than your "God has make us humble and small" doesn't hold water anymore.

Anyway, if you want to debate on the concept of God and religion more... come here in RWI: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1097710

chill dude, he's just echoing what me and others have been telling you.

you open so many topics without any form of elaboration and own opinion, you look like you're just spamming and wanting attention.



in this forum, we expect the threadstarter to at least say their own thing before expecting others to reply.

stop comparing with the International forum or whatever you're at. we could use the word "Kalau tak suka, keluar dari sini" on you too.

but seriously, i suggest you conform to the established culture of this forum before you end up annoying others.

Pardon me, I like philosophy but practical and applicable not talk kok, who are you trying to change the complex mind of mixed culture? If you really understand philosophy, you should know gaining the respect from others with credibility come first. The choice of topic about GOD will not lead everyone towards philosophical concept, just too controversial and it does not seems like you have your opinion yet you don't like the respond and create another.

Must you confine strictly to philosophy to promote it? This is not a school forum but a community forum where people come to gossip and possibly learn something while having some fun.

HUH??Yes the topic of God will not lead everyone towards philosophical concept, if we are sensitive (I guess ISA is needed forever)...This thread about GOD gain so much popularity and went way beyond i expected in philosophy forum which doesnt created by me and most of them is atheis and agnostic...Just any anyone who interested in philosophy will ask this kind of questions besides What is the purpose of life....THe most simple fundamental basic question for an amateur to start philosophy...AND this Is the question that create more questions, dude....I confine strictly to philosophy???i confine strictly TO instant speculation and accusation...If you post some philosophical question in NORMS forum, ppl will label you all sort of things...which i used to it...but i am trying to find a space to talk about philosophy with LOCAL which i do not had a chance till now...U know what, we really need to be philosophical mind to deal with controversial issues, instant speculation or accusation is the cause things get controverial (like politics)...Philosophy deals with something uncommon and nearly cluesless...like Does god existed or not...philosophy begin in wonder...not begin with reading ethics philosophy books or inspiring quotes from successor

Philosopher should gain the respect from this society (how)?? I guess u refer to politician...U think philosopher is the person who speak all the good quotes, giving wonderful speeches...teach good values??? U are right for one thing, i am rude...PPl rude to me 1st and i rude back..shame on me...Happy??

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Added on August 6, 2009, 12:18 pmDID u ever see i rude to a person who talk nicely?? If u can found one, i get out from here....ANd one more thing, philosophy is questioning the answer, not answering everything...it all started with a question...then it expand like duplication...Is not i dont intended to elaborate my opinion, is just the way it is with philosophy...courtesy...If u guys wan ur way, i will adapt it, but did u guys give me tat chance?? I just been here for few days...doenst make sense

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Added on August 6, 2009, 12:35 pmAtheist and agnostic are the one who question about GOD....Believers is the one who accept GOd as faith and all the teaching without questioning it...It will sound like an attacking statement if we question GOD in religion..."GOd has make us humble and small" means the role of imaginary GOD or true GOD had play a role in our life...dont translate it literally...theoritical Physict nowdays need to assume there is a GOD to solve or explain the infinity issues, to create another theory besides the big bang theory...If u really into science (astrophysict or cosmologist), u really need to begin relate "god" with science...

This post has been edited by communist892003: Aug 6 2009, 12:35 PM

Atheist doesn't question the existence of God as they believe life came to be as it is now naturally. Agnostic may or may not attributes life to God, than again it's not the same God as most religionist proclaims thus they are being segmented as Agnostic. Even every other days you'll see religionist proclaiming "your" God & my "God" which to me; is religion really a humble thing? Or is God really the root to all evil?

However, if we're talking about philosophy; doesn't the title "We're all born small and humble" more appropriate? When we start something with God in front of the title, the direction literally moves towards Religions and God.