To what extent that killing human is not a sin?? In measurement of thought and consciousness...Sound kinda pride and naive that human claim they are different from animal....So killing chicken is not a sin....Are we certain all animal do not consist of thought??

My theory is that we are just on a physical body which we call human's body with the potential to develop human's mind that actually make us a human being..It call humanity...I guess is the way society being classes with different level...Maybe there is a price in everyone of us...Oldest die for youngest as usual...Arent animal as well had a price for themselves???

Interesting...for me, all living things in this world deserves the same, even the tiny ants

U might said we are all equal....but not in price...this is nothing to do with buddhism that killing an ant is a sin

A good question.

Well, for me..
It depends on the purpose and perception on why u wanna kill an entity.

I kill a cockroach not becoz for fun, but because it gives harm to my home. Same with other small animals or big animals too.

But this include humans too..
If there is a human who is disturbing the peace until it can jeopardize my existence or my family's existence. I'll kill him.

i find out malay is somehow more open minded than judgemental...LOL...

it's either you kill, or be killed. If any of u are adult enough to be in the real world (work) i mean those in senior executives onwards.. it's either u kill or be killed. junior executives and below will not know this coz most of the time they are killed by the senior execs coz they can't do anything. Even if they wanna fight, also no ability to do so. Same thing like human and animals. So the issue would be.. which level are you kan got the pyramid chart showing chain of food or hierarchy .. err.. something like that?

Great anology chezzball

Same here, just like we human go to the jungle and eaten by a tiger.

sound so cruel...

most religions stated that humans are special kind of organism

non-religious view, humankind have the most developed intelligence, hence they can do anything with the planet while animals can only stand there to watch

i somewhat agree with your opinion. but in this country we have law, by killing him this does not make you any difference between you and him.

i prefer to solve my problem the peaceful way, eg: report to the higher authority

If the person is a direct threat at that very moment, you have both the human right and law on your side in self defense.

INterestin topic here, according to science, humans are also mammals and stil classified as animals, if we learn the cell structure and etc, in the molecular biology term, it has only animal n plant cell. it shows clearly, but the main diff between us n animal is the ability to think, to act and react much more logicly than a normal animal instinct. So we need to be like a human, n not like an animal, that will differentiate us as a much higher organism than others. Animal kill to survive and live, but we humans can survive without killing each other, we have tolerance and etc, so we supposed to be like a human, thats all thought in all religion. Think about it.

survival of the fitest

What make human more deserve to live? What is humanity?

In jungle, there is no such thing as am I sinned if I killed certain thing, this is mere the survival of the fittest.

But what human mostly do is eliminate the whole jungle and turn the world into humanity faster then the planet can cope. And the beauty of it is that this intelligence animal still thinking about if killing an ant is sinful.

None the less, in human point of view, human life is most important, and we prefer to live our lives rather then waste it. And with the ability and the kind of mindset we have, it is really little point to think about that if killing is sinful or not. Jesus is always right about the fact that mankind are all sinned.

So we might as well live the life we want to be.

Jesus also never said anything about killing animals a sin.


This post has been edited by dy/dx: Aug 9 2009, 02:06 PM

We humans are born to be Omnivorous (we eat both meat and vege). Which means god created us to be omnivorous, thus we are licensed to kill (practically by god).

It does not make sense to say that killing is a sin. If killing is really a sin, then all carnivorous being on earth are sinful.

It also summarizes that all vegetarians are against what nature intends to be. We are created (by god) to eat both meat and vege. Why are some so stubborn to take only vege and come up with a theory that taking meat is a sin? IMHO, its totally against what natures intend to be.

Same goes with sex, does god really created us to be abstinence before marriage? We are born to seed while we are able to. If sex is really prohibited before marriage, what about those that do not have spouse? They are too fated not to breed?

Lots of things are unexplainable in this universe. Some claimed that god created this and that, but in fact, a large portion of what we perceive today came from human...

Kinda different view u had, but i do agree with u

Aren't plants a living organism as well?

What do you think when we harvest plants for foods instead? Isn't that killing?

oh, yea. instead of 'killing" those plants perhaps it's best for us to learn how to perform photosynthesis. hmmm, free food for everyone.