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 Samsung Plasma Series 6 650 50inch (PS50B650S1R), Discuss this new plasma tv here.

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Better see both side by side before making decision... brows.gif
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STUPID doh.gif
I just realised I didn't turn IR protection in menu.
Default it's OFF.
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post Aug 10 2009, 09:49 AM

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This thing works by shifting static pixel.
There are other settings within...
I am not clear how it works yet sweat.gif
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post Aug 10 2009, 03:28 PM

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How to check panel hour in service menu?
I am not familiar with Samsung TV... Please help icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Aug 10 2009, 08:21 PM)
Samsung sound is not that good (very bad) Anybody dare to comment this?
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post Aug 11 2009, 07:02 AM

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It doesn't help much. Wait till my set break in first then I ll update again.
I didn't do any further setting as I was tired yesterday. notworthy.gif
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post Aug 12 2009, 09:35 AM

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If twice the price, I would get 2 x S10 instead.... rclxms.gif
S10 have green tint, inaccurate colour issue.
S10 is still a bit grey-ish in normal room
S10 is only slightly inferior to B650 in dark room.
Personally I still like B650 more for the price that I get it.
I still 'feel' that V series is coming drool.gif (if you can wait)
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 12 2009, 09:36 AM)
ronaldjoe,
The green tint can be calibrated out.
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QUOTE(enrg @ Aug 12 2009, 10:02 AM)
Thanks Ronaldjoe and Anfieldude

I guess I need to make final comparison before deciding.

Just one last question, does this plasma really have better black level than say the latest Samsung B series LCDs? or have the best LCD's catched up?
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To my peasant's eyes, B series LCD (series 6 above) are 'black' as well (just a bit reflective)

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post Aug 13 2009, 06:46 AM

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post Aug 13 2009, 10:13 AM

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In bright room, S10 is grey.
In dark room, S10 is black.
Come to KL to see it brows.gif
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post Aug 13 2009, 11:40 AM

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S10 is 'grey' due to its reflective glass. At night when light is off, it's 'black'.
S10 is soft, I would say it's more natural. You are right. B650 has 'deeper' colour compare to S10.
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 13 2009, 11:46 AM)
Bro Ronald, any updates on the image retention on the B650? How many hours in use already for your B650?

TQ.
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So far no IR problem as I was cautious during early panel hours.
Btw I dunno how to check panel hours in service menu yet doh.gif (I am able to go into service tho)
My rough guess it's approx 50 hours now.
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QUOTE(enrg @ Aug 13 2009, 12:30 PM)
@ ronaldjoe

But even then you mentioned that B650 goes blacker at night than S10, is this correct?

@ anfieldude

I thought you cant adjust gamma for the S10?
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Can not say B650 is blacker, the colour is deeper.
In dimly lit room, B650 is blacker as S10 is still bit reflective and glass turn grey when there is a lot ambient light.
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QUOTE(enrg @ Aug 13 2009, 03:34 PM)
@ ronaldjoe

then it seems that the S10 only wins on price. Since B650:
-is blacker ind dimly lit room
-has less reflective screen
-has sharper picture
-has deeper/better colors
-better in daylight viewing
-more controls (ie gamma)

umm did I miss anything? any area where S10 is better?
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Better GUI, crystal design, DNLA (wireless connectivity), better colour accuracy
Cons: potential IR issue and no digital optical out.
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LOL... Datin should buy Pioneer instead brows.gif
I sent my S10 for warranty claim too after 3 days of purchase.
Have to agree that Panasonic is better in terms of reliability.
Best to reflect this is to check at B650 in AVS forum.
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 13 2009, 08:14 PM)
Your S10 3 days kaput liao? sweat.gif
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3 discoloured pixel.
Panasonic shah alam came to collect it, changed panel...then returned to me


Added on August 13, 2009, 8:28 pm
QUOTE(squall_12 @ Aug 13 2009, 05:03 PM)
still samsung provide best picture quality with not so big amount of money which average joe like me can buy..in term of build quality just buy extra warranty then issue solved is it not?
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 13 2009, 08:48 PM)
Average Joe with P50S10 + 50B650S1R....yea right. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 13 2009, 09:26 PM)
Looks like Samsung will be bringing in the L5 plasma soon, as it is already registered with the Energy Commission.

2792  TELEVISIONS  PLASMA TV/PLASMA DISPLAY PANEL  SAMSUNG  PS50B550T2R  91633/09
2793  TELEVISIONS  PLASMA TV/PLASMA DISPLAY PANEL  SAMSUNG  PS42B450B1  91567/09
2794  TELEVISIONS  PLASMA TV/PLASMA DISPLAY PANEL  SAMSUNG  PS42B430P2  93674/09
2795  TELEVISIONS  PLASMA TV/PLASMA DISPLAY PANEL  SAMSUNG  PS50B450B1  91571/09

Strange the PS50B650S1R is not registered...
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The above models already available in Best or HN...kl
Btw how did you get the info??
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Aug 13 2009, 09:33 PM)
Including the PS50B550? How much is it? It's not even on Samsung Malaysia website yet...

Google is your best friend...biggrin.gif

http://www.st.gov.my/index.php?option=com_...limitstart=2750
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I saw this in HV Pavilion 3 weeks ago...6,999
performance of 550 and 650 is a big gap. Like series 5 lcd vs series 6 lcd.

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QUOTE(tewwyble @ Aug 13 2009, 09:45 PM)
Update on my set:

1) IR is not as bad as it seems. Only visible if i search for it. Watched a movie for 2 hours with the black bar. Yes, IR will appear when i switch back to astro but disappears about 1/2 hour later. Does not concern me when I do normal viewing for normal shows on Astro. If i want to quickly remove the IR, samsung has a "window washer" setting that can be run. If i set that on, even the most stubborn IR stains will go away within 5minutes or so.

2) No S-Video sad.gif Manage to tweak the colors to be more accurate. The upscaling for SD content for this Samsung is better than Sony's BE2 engine (as comparison).

3) Buzzing sound getting less (or I got used to it).

4) Manage to use my Nokia N82 phone with the DLNA feature. Now i can stream my home video / photos recorded on my phone directly to the TV. This is actually quite cool but useless feature.

5) Reflection on this set is really under control. In fact, i went to compare the LED LCD Samsung vs this set and the LEDs are even more reflective! Hate looking at my half naked body when i watch movie for dark scenes.
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I don't have this problem yet rolleyes.gif

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