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slushie
post Aug 20 2009, 06:04 PM

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pesky insects such as cockroaches shudn't be let alive!

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post Aug 20 2009, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(slushie @ Aug 20 2009, 06:04 PM)
pesky insects such as cockroaches shudn't be let alive!
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So, how to eliminate them? Who is to decide what should or shouldn't deserve to live anyway. I hate cockroach too unless you mean human cockroach.
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post Aug 26 2009, 01:47 PM

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Yeah. Nobody has the right to decide what lives and what dies.

Btw, i hate hate hate cockroaches that FLY!
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post Sep 5 2009, 10:09 PM

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What is right or wrong is simply a border set by mere humans to separate themselves from others. To begin with, we are all animals, science classify all of us as animals and under the species Homo Sapien. "Human" is the common word that is created because we humans think that we are gifted and among the supreme evolutionary species which succeed other by having advanced intellectual capabilities.

What makes us truly special is that we are supreme in number, and we are far more advanced than other animals. Yet this does not give us the power to decide on other animal lives just because they are not like us.

When humans evolved from the typical animal kingdom, we advanced in our minds, but we lost our ancestral instinct. What we commonly refer to as sixth sense, sometimes subconsciously we are able to feel when we are being watch, folllowed or when our lives are in danger.

Most animals have a very strong instinct, it's like they are able to heed natures' warning just before it happens.

Can we really consider ourselves the next evolutionary stage or are we still incomplete? When we kill another animal in the name of god, we are the self proclaimed god. I simply see ourselves as the dominant species in the world, with that claim, survival of the strongest seems fit in our situation!
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post Sep 6 2009, 06:37 PM

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Humanity can have so many meaning, depends on what is being used for. Human nature or human species as a whole.

Unless you agree that being killed is suffering, horror, fear, by putting yourself in their shoe, then you will agree that any action that create suffering, horror and fear to another human (or yourself) is a sin. However if you think that being killed is relief, detachment, end of worldly suffering by putting yourself in their shoe, well, you will just step on it like a cockroaches. Well, in emergency or reaction for self defense, your mind will set priority to self survival, relieving of self suffering and fear, thats why you dont feel the sin at that moment.

The Realization of "sin" also depends on how you are mentally and emotionally attached to a particular subject, either by realizing the outcome of action or pre-bounded by rules of religion, politics and understanding. Without attachment, there would not be realization, and hence consciousness cannot be achieved.

Talking of is killing is a sin, you must first realize that there is a fear of sin, then you must agree that fear is an outcome of sin, then you must react by reducing fear by reducing sin, and if the killing created fear for you, you will stop the fear with not killing, and hence you are not sinned. Well this is explanation by fear. As fear is the summation of all consciousness, attachments, understanding and rational thinking. Without fear, well, anything is possible. And what makes a gladiator a human killing machine, is they knows no fear.

If explanation by its ultimate purpose of life, sin will be in hierarchy. Your conscious mind will tell you that killing an ant that infest your sugar is sin less than killing a human that infest you backyard. Well, rather saying killing will cause more pain for a more intelligent species than a less intelligent species, (pain is to the nerve innervation, and it is relative, and stimulating one nerve of a one nerve organism is equally as stimulating thousand nerve of a thousand nerve organism), you would say that pyramid of food is the source of why organisms above kills organisms of the level below.

If explain in terms of moral judgment, sin becomes rather relative. Moral origins from self. If you think that you can strongly support your reason for an action done, it had not been sinned.

No matter SIN is stated by laws of religion , or SIN is generated by fear , or SIN is relatively realized by moral judgment, "SIN" is still "the wrong doings".

And only if you believe in that you have SIN , than you have the faith.

Well, as i write this reply, My awareness tells me that i had think of this issue for one hour, hence i have SIN to my parents , since next week is my final exam and i should study hard as agreed to my parents , no more spending useless time on internet. Well ... tongue.gif
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post Sep 23 2009, 11:00 AM

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Are we human... or are we dancers?


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post Sep 23 2009, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Aug 3 2009, 07:58 AM)
To what extent that killing human is not a sin?? In measurement of thought and consciousness...Sound kinda pride and naive that human claim they are different from animal....So killing chicken is not a sin....Are we certain all animal do not consist of thought??

My theory is that we are just on a physical body which we call human's body with the potential to develop human's mind that actually make us a human being..It call humanity...I guess is the way society being classes with different level...Maybe there is a price in everyone of us...Oldest die for youngest as usual...Arent animal as well had a price for themselves???
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Does this thread belong in the "PhD" forum?

TS can't even differentiate the word "Human" from "Humanities", and TS doesn't even understand that "Humanities" is man-made, aka ARTIFICIAL, while Human ain't

This thread looks more like a /k/ stuff than a "PhD" stuff
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post Sep 23 2009, 07:53 PM

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For the scientists, we are human and human is just a name given to a kind of creature that looks like you and I. But for the sorcerers, we are consciousness and so are all the living things out there. We , the so-called human, have developed our consciousness to attention, that's what makes us quite different from other living forms in this world.

I don't hate ants, cockcroaches and most insects although they look ugly or maybe intimidating. I don't hate people who are constantly killing these small creatures using the hands given to them by the creators. If they kill them, I must say that the time those small insects have in this earth has run out and so will we, the human, run out of time in this marvelous one day. We become their hunters and one day we will become the preys of other hunter too. This is a game and this game would never end.

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