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Humanities The New World Order theories, Who actually sets the New World Order?

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Cheesenium
post Aug 9 2009, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Aug 9 2009, 12:23 AM)
Here's food for thought. The most common 'argument' (for the lack of a better word) provided by conspiracy theorist is that 'the masses are too ignorant to accept the facts'. This line has already been bukake-ed all over this thread.

Dismissing non-believers as simple minded heathens, way to argue your PoV.

I like to quote Buzz Aldrin whenever people ask me if I believe in conspiracy theory. When a reporter asked him what he had to say to people who thought the moon landings were staged, he replied:

"I feel sorry for the gullible people who're going to go along with them. I guess it's just natural human reaction to want to be a part of 'knowing something that somebody doesn't know.' But it's misguided. It's just a shame."

Or we could do what Buzz did in 2003 (I think?). He punched a conspiracy theorist, who had called him a liar, right in the face.
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I think the moon landing was true and it actually happen.

QUOTE(hazairi @ Aug 9 2009, 08:56 AM)
For me it's normal to be sceptic in such theory.

But let me explain step by step. From the very basics of NWO theory.
The theory that NWO was controlled by one high level secret society.
The prove?
Listen to this J F Kennedy's speech here. He was the president of US.



So, for you sceptics out there, you think that JFK was lying about the secret society?  hmm.gif
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It's a load of bullshit that you people find it so exciting.So,now you say Kennedy died because of some idiots who were hiding in the closet.

Seriously,please close this thread.It's pointless.
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post Aug 9 2009, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 9 2009, 02:04 PM)
It's a load of bullshit that you people find it so exciting.So,now you say Kennedy died because of some idiots who were hiding in the closet.

Seriously,please close this thread.It's pointless.
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Have u heard his speech? So, you are saying Former US president JF Kennedy lied on his speech about secret society? hmm.gif
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post Aug 9 2009, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Aug 9 2009, 04:14 PM)
Have u heard his speech? So, you are saying Former US president JF Kennedy lied on his speech about secret society?  hmm.gif
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I dont believe on all these theories.
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post Aug 9 2009, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 9 2009, 04:30 PM)
I dont believe on all these theories.
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Well, like I said, let's go step by step.
1st. Secret society.
Proof? JFK's speech that I've given.
So, any reasons you don't believe regarding his speech?
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post Aug 9 2009, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Aug 9 2009, 04:14 PM)
Have u heard his speech? So, you are saying Former US president JF Kennedy lied on his speech about secret society?  hmm.gif
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how does this prove that he is killed by secret society?

this is not even a popular kennedy assassination conspiracy theory, the more popular ones involve the CIA, KGB, Castro, anti-castro group, FBI, Isreal, Mafia, J Edgar Hoover, Nixon, Lydon Johnson, military industrial complex, big business. usually the combination of one or more.
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Aug 9 2009, 04:38 PM)
Well, like I said, let's go step by step.
1st. Secret society.
Proof? JFK's speech that I've given.
So, any reasons you don't believe regarding his speech?
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It's because it doesnt make sense at all for a world leader to listen to some dumb idiot hiding in a closet.

If Kennedy want,he could just launch a nuke and get rid of those idiots in a closet.

I dont see what to discuss here,as conspiracies are pointless sensationalized news in the first place.I read a few science magazines here and none of them ever talk about any conspiracy.

All these conspiracy topics should be out of here.There is no relevance between conspiracy with science,humanities or philosophy.If there are relevance,tell me then.So far,no one ever enlighten about these,which proves that all these conspiracies are just off topic here.

Im out of here.Conspiracy lovers spoiling the whole place with conspiracies that doesnt even make sense at all.

Fake moon landing.The world ruled by idiots that are hiding.2012 Apocalypse.Ghost thread. What kind of utter bullshit this is? Is this what LYN's science section?

The whole PHD corner is even pointless than reading Popular Science.At least Pop Science have some fancy 3D renders to see with little to none explanation behind it.
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post Aug 9 2009, 05:20 PM

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Who cares if you believe or not believe smile.gif

But I believe the psychopaths always love people who never believe all this.
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post Aug 9 2009, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ Aug 9 2009, 05:20 PM)
Who cares if you believe or not believe smile.gif

But I believe the psychopaths always love people who never believe all this.
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What im concern is what is the relevance of all this with this subforum.
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post Aug 9 2009, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 9 2009, 05:32 PM)
What im concern is what is the relevance of all this with this subforum.
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It's only imperative that they should at least show some ACTUAL evidence first to these "conspiracies".

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Aug 9 2009, 05:34 PM)
It's only imperative that they should at least show some ACTUAL evidence first to these "conspiracies".
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Still,these conspiracies have nothing to do with the subforum,as they will never be any evidence with all these.

They should be in /k.
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post Aug 9 2009, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Aug 9 2009, 04:46 PM)
how does this prove that he is killed by secret society?

this is not even a popular kennedy assassination conspiracy theory, the more popular ones involve the CIA, KGB, Castro, anti-castro group, FBI, Isreal, Mafia, J Edgar Hoover, Nixon, Lydon Johnson, military industrial complex, big business. usually the combination of one or more.
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Maybe he was not killed by the secret society, but the point is on his speech.
He clearly spoke about the 'secret society' that trying to control the world. Go and hear his speech clearly.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 9 2009, 04:56 PM)
It's because it doesnt make sense at all for a world leader to listen to some dumb idiot hiding in a closet.

If Kennedy want,he could just launch a nuke and get rid of those idiots in a closet.

I dont see what to discuss here,as conspiracies are pointless sensationalized news in the first place.I read a few science magazines here and none of them ever talk about any conspiracy.

All these conspiracy topics should be out of here.There is no relevance between conspiracy with science,humanities or philosophy.If there are relevance,tell me then.So far,no one ever enlighten about these,which proves that all these conspiracies are just off topic here.

Im out of here.Conspiracy lovers spoiling the whole place with conspiracies that doesnt even make sense at all.

Fake moon landing.The world ruled by idiots that are hiding.2012 Apocalypse.Ghost thread. What kind of utter bullshit this is? Is this what LYN's science section?

The whole PHD corner is even pointless than reading Popular Science.At least Pop Science have some fancy 3D renders to see with little to none explanation behind it.
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Hmm, some dumb idiot hiding in a closet?
Nope. They are not bunch of dumb idiots. They are the elites. Based on the theories, those elites are affiliated with the secret society.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 9 2009, 05:41 PM)
Still,these conspiracies have nothing to do with the subforum,as they will never be any evidence with all these.

They should be in /k.
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The are many science theories that haven't been proven yet,
such as Darwin's theory of evolution, Einsteins theory of relativity and many more..
Those are a still theories but it was put in the science subject for people to learn..
Hence, gotcha! I've debunked your claim that this subject shouldn't fit here.. rclxms.gif
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I think that a lot of these "New World Order" theories and conjectures are based on things very real and very sinister.

I've spent a very long time studying history and keeping track of rather mundane "unsolved mysteries" over the years, and the one thing I've discovered is that if there is a gap or some obfuscation or muddling of knowledge of information about what actually occurred, then something indeed did occur. Things do not happen out of a vacuum, and quite often "occam's razor" is used to blatantly cover up plots that have been made and then executed out of the public eye.

Historical records bear witness to an inordinate amount of these secret plots. We may as well accept that this is the natural way of things.

So we look at all of these conspiracy theories. Most appear written by nutcases and lunatics. That's probably the main purpose: for wild theories to supplant the legitimate questions about the gaps in our knowledge.

We now know about a LOT of things that have been kept from the public eye, such as French secret service involvement in supplying Hutu militias with guns and grenades during the Rwandan genocide, the mass deaths of witnesses to the JFK assassination, the CIA assassination of Patrice Lumumba just because he leaned towards the left in order to bring social justice to Africans, etc, just to name a few.

Illuminati? Freemasons? Vatican assassins? All of these may be stories to cover up the true workings of the real corridors of power and the political and economic dynasties that arose in the beginning of the last century.

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Aug 9 2009, 06:19 PM)
Hmm, some dumb idiot hiding in a closet?
Nope. They are not bunch of dumb idiots. They are the elites. Based on the theories, those elites are affiliated with the secret society.
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Like im gonna believe this crap.

QUOTE(hazairi @ Aug 9 2009, 06:23 PM)
The are many science theories that haven't been proven yet,
such as Darwin's theory of evolution, Einsteins theory of relativity and many more..
Those are a still theories but it was put in the science subject for people to learn..
Hence, gotcha!  I've debunked your claim that this subject shouldn't fit here.. rclxms.gif
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Darwin's theory of evolution have been proven in various fields.From,relationships to origins of Universe.

String theory is not proven yet too,but that doesnt mean that it cant be discussed here,as it tries to unify the quantum theory and relativity theory.

Your conspiracies have nothing to do with science.

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muslim fears of jewish domination via freemasonry and illuminati

non-muslim fears of muslim domination via eurabia and Hizb ut-Tahrir

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 9 2009, 06:42 PM)
Like im gonna believe this crap.
Darwin's theory of evolution have been proven in various fields.From,relationships to origins of Universe.

String theory is not proven yet too,but that doesnt mean that it cant be discussed here,as it tries to unify the quantum theory and relativity theory.

Your conspiracies have nothing to do with science.
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Well, the category for this topic is 'humanity'. Can't read it clearly? hmm.gif

Anyway, it's your choice to believe or not. I'm not fanatic with this theory. But at the same time, I'm researching this theory slowly.
Another question that you haven't answer is about former US president JFK's speech. So you think he was just talking crap regarding the secret society?
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QUOTE(quintessential @ Aug 9 2009, 06:49 PM)
muslim fears of jewish domination via freemasonry and illuminati

non-muslim fears of muslim domination via eurabia and Hizb ut-Tahrir
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Actually it's not the Jews that Muslims fear. It's the Zionists. Even the Jews doesn't support the Zionists.
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Aug 9 2009, 08:43 PM)
Well, the category for this topic is 'humanity'. Can't read it clearly?  hmm.gif

Anyway, it's your choice to believe or not. I'm not fanatic with this theory. But at the same time, I'm researching this theory slowly.
Another question that you haven't answer is about former US president JFK's speech. So you think he was just talking crap regarding the secret society?
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Can you prove that it's not crap he's talking? Anyone can say anything, can't they?
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just ask ur self, anyone or any govt who has different ideas than the ruling power always the ones who get killed, sabotaged, humiliated, etc..

Don't u guys ever wonder why? Just to name a few, but if u learn deep enough, u can see a pattern here, whereas anybody who is/was against the 'power that-be', will always got into trouble. And to name some of them, these people are well loved by the masses but not the ones in the corridors of power.

WHY??

JFK, martin luther king jr., Malcolm X, tupac, princess diana, robert kennedy, and the list goes on..

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