Hi everybody!
I just got a unit last week. Mainly for investment.

The following information were gathered by me but feel free to correct:
1. actual ceiling height in the showhouse
2. shower screen door is not provided in all bathrooms
3. vanity top is provided only for master bathroom but without cabinets below
4. flooring would be downgraded from showhouse (from 900 or 800mm to 600mm x 600mm)!
5. Block B's unit no. 7, corner unit, might be obstructed by vista komanwel for the golf view. I repeat, MIGHT! not certain.
6. Maintenance fees is 0.27 + sinking fees 10% = RM0.30/sq ft
7. Sauna is available in Level 4 or 3
8. grilles at the yard/working area is provided (i doubt it but that's what one of the personnel inform me)
9. sink would be provided at the kitchen facing th dining. point only is provided for the working area
10. air/cond point provided for living and master only
11. heater point provided for master bath and bath 2 only
12. ceiling fan hook and point provided for all rooms + living
13. mirrors to bathrooms are not inclusive

Looking forward to keeping in touch with all the units owner.

Suggestion:
1. petition to berjaya to allow options/upgrade for the following:
a) additional a/c points to bed 2 and bed 3 (but please note A/C ledge can only house 2 compressor!!)
b) remain 800 or 900mm floor tiles rather than downgrading to 600mm!
c) heater to bath 2 and 3 to be provided. if we do ourselves in future, we need to hack the wall tiles. i'm referring to water storage heater and not instant heaters!
d) mirrors to all bathrooms (full length as per showhouse)

kochin

can somebody make a headcount how many owners are in this forum already?

1. Kamalesh - B-15-3A
2. (Datuk) Covillea
3. kochin B23A-3A

would appreicate if the user can name their units too

don't know much about berjaya developments. but have been dissapointed with myself for 'missing' a few projects in the past thus unable to increase my wealth through property investment.
what i meant was, me and my wife went to casa indah 2 about 2 years back with cheque book but still unable to bring myself to commit to it. it was around 260k then and it's easily 350k today. damn!
another lost cause was ara damansara. 22x75 at rm350k and easily rm500k today! sigh!
solaris dutamas at rm380k and last transacted cost was rm550k beofre completion!
so this time round, i didn't really think much about it and jump in before my mind says otherwise. however, my 2 cents thoughts on covillea.
lrt access: it's going to be an extremely important tools to mobility in future with economic uncertainties and fuel pricing fluctuations.
location: i don't understand why bukit jalil is still on low price side. it's prime and easy to access. freehold and near city center. it should comman a premium and yet it's still not. maybe not enough push from developers and lack of government support?
highways: i think it's good for people working near sunway or puchong or subang with kesas. for kl, if near mid valley should still be okay. but traffic to kl city center is gonna be bad. but then again, which road to kl city center isn't jammed?
pricing: i believe the pricing for covillea is on the high side. however, it's important to note that it includes future pricing meaning we need not pay till completion. but i also believe sales will drop dramatically for covillea due to pulling back of payment till completion program by december and also due to the high pricing in block a.

berjaya people take note:
for this amount of pricing, owners expect and demand better furnishing and better workmanship. the showhouse was so-so only. if final product is like showhouse, i think most owners will be able to submit a lengthy defect list.
please review deisgn of shower screen. if the door is swing in opposite direction, it will solve the problem of people getting in and out conveniently. sigh, guess it's freshie architect designing. no offesense to anyone, ya?!

cheers.

hmmmm although i don't share the same ethusiasm as bro covillea, but are other forumers saying that covillea is not a good investment then? let's face the fact, they are both strong sets of arguments that justify covillea as a gem and also equal points against it.
being an investor of covillea myself, of course i hope it will succeed.

well, whatever it is, i'm already committed and might as well make best use of my knowledge and resource.

so forumers, owners and supporters, please resume the namelist for petition for better facilities, shall we?

notice the 'multi-purpose hall' space is underutilised. how about we demand for a tennis court? hehe!

can anybody please update the sales chart? would really like to know how block A is doing in terms of sales? if i remember correctly, block B still got a lot of units which is facing the pool for both type a and type b.
if block A is selling like hot cakes like block B, then
but i highly doubt it since when i last went over, i understand that block A sales was terrible even though they participated in the klcc property expo. guess it must have been outshine by other bigger players.
still, am hoping for the best!

to the hsbc bankers, can you please enlighten us what's the current package offered by hsbc? any specialty on the bulk purchasers? why not just update openly in the forum? it will exert more pressure to other banks to follow suit!

am not entire sure what you reported was true. when i was making my payment today in their times square office, i personally counted 34 more units left in block b and was informed only confirmed purchasers upto approximate 30 nos for block A.
however i hope for investor's sake what you reported was true.
anybody else care to confirm what hunter said?

cheers.

welcome, welcome!
it's good to see another owner on board. hope you are happy with your purchase. with regards to the development, I have visited the actual site prior to purchasing it. This is the following which I have assumed from my limited knowledge :
1. foundation works have been fully completed hence Developer reserves the right to claim the next 10% anytime
2. the road is almost complete for both savanna 2 and covillea. but at that point of time, I notice that it's not connected to esplanad. am not sure whether they will do so because the levels between covillea to the road heading further down is quite a difference. perhaps 5m? pros & cons of connection to esplanad. pros: better access. cons: more traffic as people will be using it as a bypass. personally, i prefer no connection as the bypass is just a short drive away. less traffic means more privacy and more space to illegal parking lah.
3. try using wikimapia or satellite view from google map to pinpoint covillea development. from my projections, i believe block b unit 7 (for level 28 and below) MIGHT be obstructed by vista. the rest of the units should be able to have golf view.
4. KM1 is far far away from covillea and super high end. as for development next to covillea, no idea but you should be able to guesstimate the space available from my point in item 3. the land is kinda small and hopefully they will build some high-end low rise to enhance covillea's appeal and also fortifying the land there to permanently not obstruct block b's views.
5. for those in property, construction lines, would appreciate you guys using your resource to try prying information from the architect or other consultants. i think architect is A&A and C&S is TY Lin. fyi: Block A's L6; there's one unit going for around rm430k+ which is a bargain because of getting pool and golf view. even though the SA claims that it's obstructed by the viewing deck on the gym, they could be wrong. so if potential buyers know the architect to ascertain the correct finish floor levels, you just might 'untung' with this selection!

that's all for now. i'd got some pics of the development during my site visit but can't upload due to i'm not a very well equipt with computer knowledge. in other words, dunno how to upload pics in this forum lah.

lastly, would really appreciate update on the sales leh.
last i check myself, the sales is hovering around 170 - 180 units sold for entire development translating to approx 55% overall sales. not too bad but not too good also.

PS: how come nobody share information on the bank deals? the hsbc negotiator, can share info on the package ah?

Updated list from what i gathered so far:

1. Kamalesh - B-15-3A
2. (Datuk) Covillea
3. kochin B-23A-?
4. korndamned A-8-?
5. hunters B-6-?
6. mok thye yee B-12-6
7. marcohoo B-23-?
8. danlim B-?-?
9. koreans block B-9-01 until 09 and B-19-01 until 09

that's total of 26 already.
anybody else? please assist. we should form a community leh.

This post has been edited by kochin: Dec 24 2009, 11:40 AM

errrr.... not sure whether this works or not. try this:
http://www.berjayaproperties.com/CovilleaAI.htm

if fail, go manually through:
www.berjayaproperties.com

shame on the sales staff if they are in here. am doing more to promote this than them. perhaps VT should pay me commission!

Updated list from what i gathered so far:

1. Kamalesh - B-15-3A
2. (Datuk) Covillea
3. kochin B-23A-?
4. korndamned A-8-?
5. hunters B-6-?
6. mok thye yee B-12-6
7. marcohoo B-23-?
8. danlim B-?-?
9. joe tham A-10-?
10. koreans block B-9-01 until 09 and B-19-01 until 09

that's total of 27 already.
anybody else? please assist. we should form a community leh.

congrats to joe joining us on this forum!

anybody got any idea how to persuade the developer to provide the concealed copper piping for water heater in all the bath? i would really like to have those!

happy new year to all!

Updated list from what i gathered so far:

1. Kamalesh - B-15-3A
2. (Datuk) Covillea
3. kochin B-23A-?
4. korndamned A-8-?
5. hunters B-6-?
6. mok thye yee B-12-6
7. marcohoo B-23-?
8. danlim B-?-?
9. joe tham A-10-?
10. dumbshy B-?-?

**koreans block B-9-01 until 09 and B-19-01 until 09

that's total of 28 already.
anybody else? please assist. we should form a community leh.

congrats to dumbshy joining us on this forum!

anybody got any idea how to persuade the developer to provide the concealed copper piping for water heater in all the bath? i would really like to have those!

happy new year to all!

PS: It'll will be much appreciated that guys who join this list can do the updating themselves. Cheers!

dear mty,
any update on the sales? a snapshot of both blocks would bemost appreciated.
thanks in advance and a belated happy new year.

welcome to the new owner who join this forum.

all other covillea owners, happy new year to you too!

that means from what i counted in mid december till now, block a have only added 5 more sales? that's bad then. anybody care to calculate in detail the total number of sales to date?

i always believe if a project sell out fast, it's indication of how well the future pricing is going to be. but then again block a and b pricing differs too much. if block b were to match block a price upon vp, i'll be happy to flip my unit liao.

cheers!

anybody here have fully settle their SPA and bank loans? although sign everything liao but have yet to receive copies of both SPA nor the loan. should i be alarmed?
please share your experience.

i only receive letter from berjaya yesterday. it was a cc copy. it was actually from berjaya to the lawyer requesting to expedite the SPA. and furthermore the letter have many grammar and spelling errors. i remember it was signed by an assistant manager or something. really an eye opener for me to see such letter be issued out and to lawyer somemore. eg. through = thru (you think we are american meh?). and one more word which was wrongly spelt. i thought m.word would have auto correct already?

as for loan, after signing, no more news liao. but i sign letter offer for loan quite late. think 3rd week of december.

that's my story. what about the others.

lastly, if SPA dated 16/12/09, stamping not carried out yet, the 3 year h/over is based on SPA date or stamping date ah?

and mok, please do check on the units movement if you are back. thanks.

simple. if we assume covillea as having 4 rooms (inclusive of the 'utility' room near the kitchen), it should hold up to approximate 6 students minimum. 2 in master, 2 in bed 2, 1 each in bed 3 and the 'utility' room. please note that for showhouse, they are fitting 2 single bed in bed 3!
now basing on the assumption of 6 pax minimum in one unit, just multiply per head rate to get projected rental.

eg. 6 person x rm350 = rm2.1k (low); 7 person x rm500 = rm3.5k (high)

again we must assume future value as in 2013. by 2013, if teh tarik cost rm1.50 by then, renting room per head in 'better environment' should be able to fetch at least rm400 per head? so i guess it's safe to say to target at least rm2k yield per unit?
and rm2k yield 'should' be able to sufficiently pay off the installment + maintenance fees.

cheerios!

and i'm hoping that you know the student is from IMU??

with regards to previous comparison between other projects vs. covillea/savanna, i wish to point out a few items. a lot of projects being compared to covillea/savanna is not really a direct comparison eg. midfields, zest, etc. for comparison purposes, i'd benchmark savanna/covillea with the following projects which i'm familiar with:
golf view comparison:
1. casa indah 1 (golf view)
2. casa indah 2 (golf view)
3. casa tropicana (golf view)
4. tropicana grande (golf view but not a very good comparison as this seems to a higher graded project)
near international college and comes with scenic view
1. laman baiduri (lake view)

but my illustration of comparison, i would like to point out covillea/savanna vs. cova suites
Cova Suites:
1. located opposite SEGI College in Kota Damansara
2. lake view

Cova Suites are recently completed and are for sale approx RM380k onwards (approx RM350psf). Cova Suites in my opnion is the more appropriate comparison to be used.
Both are very near an international college. both have a major scenic view as selling point (golf vs. lake).
However, the major differences between these 2 is freehold vs. leasehold AND lrt vs. no lrt. Please also note that cova have a much higher density against covillea/savanna.
If one were to conduct a search on iproperty on cova suites, it's rather amazing the value of cova is now against developer price. i recall it was rm2xxk onwards upon launch and most units now are asking rm400k! yield wise, it doesnt seem to be on the high side probably due to the density factor and also the students's affordability.
I might be applauding covillea more because i'm vested in it but this seems like a good comparison and I definitely welcome any feedbacks on your comments.
Theory wise, covillea/savanna seems like such a bargain. With 'Covillea' hype and enthuasism on One Jalil, hopefully this will be the big one to propel me to become closer to a 'millianaire' in 3 years time!

aiyoh, if savanna 2 really rm1.2 mil, i can only kick my own a$$. berjaya offer me preview if i'm interested but i declined. at that time, i think was rm600k. damn x1000!!!

anyway, happy cny to all!

danlim, CI2? am staying nearby too. wanna lim teh and talk cock sometime?

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Added on January 21, 2010, 9:12 amaiyoh, if savanna 2 really rm1.2 mil, i can only kick my own a$$. berjaya offer me preview if i'm interested but i declined. at that time, i think was rm600k. damn x1000!!!

anyway, happy cny to all!

danlim, CI2? am staying nearby too. wanna lim teh and talk "kock" sometime?

This post has been edited by kochin: Jan 21 2010, 09:12 AM