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 Stock Market V36: Return of the Bull, Part IV, Bull defies Newton's Law of Gravity

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post Aug 7 2009, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:42 PM)
Bursa (based on current PE) is 41.58!!! As I said, ppl that buy Bursa don't look at PE ratio one.
SGX is much lower and healthier. tongue.gif . I'll keep my SGX for long term. Will wait long long until the price move back to S$15++ yawn.gif
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year 2008 is not a good year to use as base.

year 2009 F is more likely


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My STI counters drop more than what they gain yesterday. sad.gif
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 05:00 PM)
My STI counters drop more than what they gain yesterday. sad.gif
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Today STI Siong... DBS drop 50 cents...
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post Aug 7 2009, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 05:00 PM)
My STI counters drop more than what they gain yesterday. sad.gif
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No monkeys around, lol

CI crashed with 0.91plus

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That will depends how much you trust Kenanga's analysis laugh.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 05:00 PM)
year 2008 is not a good year to use as base.

year 2009 F is more likely
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Added on August 7, 2009, 5:08 pmAs usual. M'sia Boleh! laugh.gif rclxub.gif
Based on this kind of monkey play, KLCI can be any figure. Just name your KPI and you'll get the number. brows.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 05:03 PM)
No monkeys around,  lol

CI crashed with 0.91plus
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 05:05 PM)
That will depends how much you trust Kenanga's analysis laugh.gif
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So long can make money ok lah.

They said to buy RCE Cap at 35sen also.

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Today is friday, end of the weekday, as usual most counter will come to week end also.

After a week running, The Bull also need week end to relax. LOL
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 05:00 PM)
My STI counters drop more than what they gain yesterday. sad.gif
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Well. Monday's a holiday for you to mull over your next step.

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QUOTE(htt @ Aug 7 2009, 05:02 PM)
Today STI Siong... DBS drop 50 cents...
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I realise SGX fundamentals change rapidly overnight one ?
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S'pore national day, right? Long time didn't go to S'pore liao. Almost forgot everything in S'pore (except stocks biggrin.gif ). sad.gif

QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Aug 7 2009, 05:09 PM)
Well. Monday's a holiday for you to mull over your next step.
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Added on August 7, 2009, 5:14 pmFundamental same, just sentiment follow US.. laugh.gif
KLCI is shielded by "Gods" ohmy.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 05:12 PM)
I realise SGX fundamentals change rapidly overnight one ?
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 05:12 PM)
S'pore national day, right? Long time didn't go to S'pore liao. Almost forgot everything in S'pore (except stocks biggrin.gif ). sad.gif
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better make sure SGX Building is still there ( intact ) rclxms.gif
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Wince! Help me to check whether SGX building still there or not icon_question.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 05:14 PM)
better make sure SGX Building  is still there ( intact ) rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 05:12 PM)
I realise SGX fundamentals change rapidly overnight one ?
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Today DBS result out, provision charge up like hell, some more not provide % as much as before...
UOB also bad, almost same like DBS...
Only OCBC slightly better, with set off from their over allocation for CDO previously...
STI down fast up also fast tongue.gif


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 05:14 PM)
better make sure SGX Building  is still there ( intact ) rclxms.gif
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SGX Building already sold loh, but the name remains the same tongue.gif
Btw, SGX result not that bad tongue.gif
Cheers... weekend coming...
Long weekend for Singapore... biggrin.gif

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Would like to know when is ATRIUM ex date?
Was it somewhere in Nov?

What is the dividend payment like?

thanks in advance
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QUOTE(jctcm @ Aug 7 2009, 05:23 PM)
Would like to know when is ATRIUM ex date?
Was it somewhere in Nov?

What is the dividend payment like?

thanks in advance
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Stock Name :ATRIUM
Date Announced :06/08/2009
EX-date :21/08/2009
Entitlement date :25/08/2009
Currency :Malaysian Ringgit (MYR)
Entitlement in Currency :0.008
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QUOTE(htt @ Aug 7 2009, 05:18 PM)
Today DBS result out, provision charge up like hell, some more not provide % as much as before...
UOB also bad, almost same like DBS...
Only OCBC slightly better, with set off from their over allocation for CDO previously...
STI down fast up also fast tongue.gif


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SGX Building already sold loh, but the name remains the same tongue.gif
Btw, SGX result not that bad tongue.gif
Cheers... weekend coming...
Long weekend for Singapore... biggrin.gif
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I think SGX operates like Genting Casino nowaday ( Business Model )

Just my personal thinking only.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 03:52 PM)
Bursa CN at 20.5sen,  Bursa should trade at rm 9.70  to break even ?

Right or wrong ?
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You need to consider potential dividend given which will deduct out the share price.

Generous dividend is warrant's poison because warrant exercise price won't be adjusted due to generous dividend, nor warrant will get any dividend.

Any warrant underlying target stock which give dividend should trade at lower premium due to above mentioned reason,


QUOTE(Junior83 @ Aug 7 2009, 04:31 PM)
careful with new call warrant, they normally have it when they c the share downside trend is coming

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Yup, this one I agree.

When market hit low time, or depressed at low price, no investment house issued or little CW being issued, after market run up and hot again, issue like mad. Eventually most retailers always buy high or having high exercise price on the CW.

Investment houses are not stupid, they won't issue CW when KNM was 0.3x, but they are willing to issue when KNM now is 0.85. Somemore alll issued at 30+% premium means stock price currently need to surge more than 30% in order to breakeven your purchased CW cost in a year time.

For short term quick goreng, different story.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 7 2009, 05:30 PM)
You need to consider potential dividend given which will deduct out the share price.

Generous dividend is warrant's poison because warrant exercise price won't be adjusted due to generous dividend, nor warrant will get any dividend.

Any warrant underlying target stock which give dividend should trade at lower premium due to above mentioned reason,
Yup, this one I agree.

When market hit low time, or depressed at low price, no investment house issued or little CW being issued, after market run up and hot again, issue like mad. Eventually most retailers always buy high or having high exercise price on the CW.

Investment houses are not stupid, they won't issue CW when KNM was 0.3x, but they are willing to issue when KNM now is 0.85. Somemore alll issued at 30+% premium means stock price currently need to surge more than 30% in order to breakeven your purchased CW cost in a year time.

For short term quick goreng, different story.
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I think only 10 to 20sen price adjustment half yearly or 10sen /Q ( ex dividends )

Not much a problem

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 05:27 PM)
I think SGX  operates  like Genting Casino nowaday ( Business Model )

Just my personal thinking only.
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They are prepare for the IR... while preparing... brows.gif
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Job Loss data came in "less bad". doh.gif

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