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 Stock Market V36: Return of the Bull, Part IV, Bull defies Newton's Law of Gravity

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SKY 1809
post Aug 7 2009, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Aug 7 2009, 03:49 PM)
and this is really weird..another two call warrants on bursa are trading at much higher premium doh.gif  doh.gif
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Bursa CN at 20.5sen, Bursa should trade at rm 9.70 to break even ?

Right or wrong ?
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The latter warrant got higher gearing. Anyway, new things always hotter. smile.gif

QUOTE(dEviLs @ Aug 7 2009, 03:49 PM)
and this is really weird..another two call warrants on bursa are trading at much higher premium doh.gif  doh.gif
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post Aug 7 2009, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 03:52 PM)
Bursa CN at 20.5sen,  Bursa should trade at rm 9.70  to break even ?

Right or wrong ?
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10 * 0.205 + 7.2 = 9.25

QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 03:52 PM)
The latter warrant got higher gearing. Anyway, new things always hotter.  smile.gif
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those who get in now must be very optimistic sweat.gif
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post Aug 7 2009, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Aug 7 2009, 04:02 PM)
10 * 0.205 + 7.2 = 9.25
those who get in now must be very optimistic sweat.gif
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Bursa , rm 10 next year , no problem lah.

So many IPO, new call warrants and Sunway REIts



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post Aug 7 2009, 04:12 PM

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If Bursa can hit $10 next year (Before warrants expire), and assume 0% premium, below is the expected gain
CL - 47%, CN - 37% CO- 12%

If $11
CL - 76%, CN - 85% CO- 61%

If $12
CL - 106%, CN - 134% CO- 110%

So, depends on how you bet. tongue.gif If Bursa drop below $8, then all also hangus. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 04:04 PM)
Bursa , rm 10 next year , no problem lah.

So many IPO, new call warrants and Sunway REIts
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post Aug 7 2009, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:12 PM)
If Bursa can hit $10 next year (Before warrants expire), and assume 0% premium, below is the expected gain
CL - 47%, CN - 37% CO- 12%

If $11
CL - 76%, CN - 85% CO- 61%

If $12
CL - 106%, CN - 134% CO- 110%

So, depends on how you bet.  tongue.gif  If Bursa drop below $8, then all also hangus. icon_rolleyes.gif
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That is IF CI falls to below 1000pts next year.
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post Aug 7 2009, 04:22 PM

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When invest, we need to consider all the risk, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
Anyway, Bursa's PE ratio is very scarry...
High risk, high gain. brows.gif brows.gif
Based on my calculated risk, it is worth buying biggrin.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 04:16 PM)
That is IF CI falls to below 1000pts next year.
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Added on August 7, 2009, 4:24 pmAgain, if you don't know what is warrant, pls ignore my posting.

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:22 PM)
When invest, we need to consider all the risk, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
Anyway, Bursa's PE ratio is very scarry...
High risk, high gain. brows.gif  brows.gif
Based on my calculated risk, it is worth buying biggrin.gif

Added on August 7, 2009, 4:24 pmAgain, if you don't know what is warrant, pls ignore my posting.
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Only PE of 20 by next year with good business, on future earning potential.

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post Aug 7 2009, 04:28 PM

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PE 20 is consider as very high in my standard...
Anyway, ppl that buy Bursa where got see PE ratio one! Buy Buy Buy!!!! laugh.gif
That's why I said worth the risk buying warrant, but mothershare... hmm.gif
BTW, I got more faith in PBB warrants in long term. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 04:25 PM)
Only PE of 20 by next year with good business.
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:28 PM)
PE 20 is consider as very high in my standard...
Anyway, ppl that buy Bursa where got see PE ratio one! Buy Buy Buy!!!! laugh.gif
That's why I said worth the risk buying warrant, but mothershare... hmm.gif
BTW, I got more faith in PBB warrants in long term. brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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SGX is trading at above PE 24 to 26 X now, what is the market price ?

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careful with new call warrant, they normally have it when they c the share downside trend is coming

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post Aug 7 2009, 04:33 PM

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SGX now trading at S$8.39, If you use the same methodology, SGX also very worth buying. tongue.gif
Anyway, I got my SGX at S$4.79 drool.gif So icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 04:29 PM)
SGX is trading at above PE 20X now, what is the market price ?
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:33 PM)
SGX now trading at S$8.39, If you use the same methodology, SGX also very worth buying. tongue.gif
Anyway, I got my SGX at S$4.79 drool.gif So  icon_rolleyes.gif
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World average is PE 22 ( stock Exchange )

Asia is PE 22-25

So time to sell ?
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Bursa (based on current PE) is 41.58!!! As I said, ppl that buy Bursa don't look at PE ratio one.
SGX is much lower and healthier. tongue.gif . I'll keep my SGX for long term. Will wait long long until the price move back to S$15++ yawn.gif

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 7 2009, 04:37 PM)
World average is PE 22 ( stock Exchange )

Asia is PE 22-25

So time to sell ?
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:28 PM)
PE 20 is consider as very high in my standard...
Anyway, ppl that buy Bursa where got see PE ratio one! Buy Buy Buy!!!! laugh.gif
That's why I said worth the risk buying warrant, but mothershare... hmm.gif
BTW, I got more faith in PBB warrants in long term. brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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pbb-cj is more attractive than another two IMO.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Aug 7 2009, 04:44 PM)
pbb-cj is more attractive than another two IMO.. hmm.gif
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Bursa does not need lot of Capital to expand business volume. No bad debts , right.

Only computer system hangs if over trade.

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Depends on how you see it. The case also similar to Bursa which basically determine by what is your expectation on PBB in Q1 2010...

QUOTE(dEviLs @ Aug 7 2009, 04:44 PM)
pbb-cj is more attractive than another two IMO.. hmm.gif
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Need to buy bananas to treat the Monkeys, damn good at their job..
KLCI closed green, today no salah kira... laugh.gif

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post Aug 7 2009, 04:56 PM

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I see it as abang adik changing hands.
Anyway, yesterday paper gain all hangus today. sad.gif

QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 7 2009, 04:53 PM)
Need to buy bananas to treat the Monkeys, damn good at their job..
KLCI closed green, today no salah kira...  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 7 2009, 04:56 PM)
I see it as abang adik changing hands.
Anyway, yesterday paper gain all hangus today. sad.gif
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same wif me. only HOVID is still holding strong at 0.265

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