for me...if u wan me to choose between detail and noise, my answer is detail.

one thing i like about SONY is they try to maintain higher detail in the photo compare to other brand scarifies detail to have better noise performance.

for me noise can be reduce using software but u can never draw out the detail if it is not there.

my few cents here

This post has been edited by ahtsong: Aug 14 2009, 01:55 PM

in photography, we normally relate the sharpness with highlighting the detail

but in actual fact sharpness is not only about detail, there is many factor involve in order for u to reach max sharpness. eg, handshake, lens, weather and so on.

u can read something here
http://www.dphotojournal.com/photography-t...imum-sharpness/

but for me detail is a very major key to obtain the sharpness in ur photo

This post has been edited by ahtsong: Aug 14 2009, 02:10 PM

don la call me tai ko...(i'm not being tai ko for many years - sound like gangster)

we always do sharing here ma...when have TT

ebay is ur good fren

landscape : 16-106
potrait : 17-50

so buy both...

just get the 16105 then save up to get a 50mm

SAL 16-105 and SAL 16-80z actually not much dif...at least for my eye. i will not pay extra 1k for the not much dif and shorter range. i would rather use the 1k for other stuff

yuenzhi: i love my 16105

if u wanna see sample (posted b4)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26361657@N08/...57621805951481/

congratulate on ur choice...shoot more photo and show us

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Added on August 14, 2009, 4:31 pmagree...anyway..both are ok for me...just which u prefer when u hold it.

btw i do like the 230 for the higher pop-up flash, but i like the easy access in A200 (the button and menu)

This post has been edited by ahtsong: Aug 14 2009, 04:31 PM

be fair la...do u think u can do 300 at 1/5 using IS or VR?

sony no booth there...u can check in Key Colour

play with ur lens and find ur sweet spot of ur lens...looking at ur Doggy pig, as what napi said, speed too slow and wide open....

if indoor, try to shoot some object with good lighting... and zoom in...and yes the 16105 are not very much better then kitty, our kitty can be very sharp too...if u know how to use it.

1 more opinion, do feel scare to pump out ur ISO

read the manual...since u so free now...

studio zaloon selling 73xx

yuenzhi: that is for sure...or else ppl will not opps for upgrade..

the sensor dif, noise country dif