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post Aug 12 2009, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 12 2009, 03:22 PM)
Supposedly, the A500/A550 should be around the price of the A700 now. Even if it is not, the A700 launched with a street price of RM4400 so it's not too far off even if the A500/A550 is a bit higher than RM3200.

If you have cash now and need to shoot now, just go for it - A700 + 17-50mm F2.8 + 70-200mm F2.8 + F58. If you can get the Zeiss, even better.

hazril: Wah, 100mm F2.0 - that's rare. My boss has one. It's quite weird on APS-C though.
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i prefer to wait if it is around 3k++ and worth my money .. what are the differences between a700 and a500/a550? anyone can confirm this?
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post Aug 12 2009, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Aug 12 2009, 06:59 PM)
Phwoarrrrrrrr the Sony 70-200 f2.8 so cheap oredi now. If last time the lenses was so cheap then I wud surely have bought the A700 with CZ16-80 and 70-200G.  sad.gif
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haha .. they are my dream setup now .. any recommanded shop to buy stuff? studio zaloon offers good service but just normal price even buying all together ..
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post Aug 12 2009, 08:58 PM

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guys,

how do i know that a700 has the latest firmware on it?
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post Aug 12 2009, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Shazril @ Aug 12 2009, 09:11 PM)
press [MENU] > [DISP].

latest firmware is 4.0.
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ok thanks ..

if not the latest version, can i update it manually? or need to send to shop or service center? how much would it cost?
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post Aug 13 2009, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(segaran2 @ Aug 12 2009, 10:47 PM)
My New HVL-F58AM RM1015 @ Foto Miami SS14 PJ 

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hhoh .. damn cheap .. a700? 70-200? cz?
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post Aug 14 2009, 08:38 AM

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hi all .. morning ..

can i join u guys if i have these:

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post Aug 14 2009, 06:18 PM

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guys,

what creative style u using and what is the setting? .. i am using Vivid with 1,0,3 .. have not really test it yet ..
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post Aug 14 2009, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(ryzan76 @ Aug 14 2009, 06:31 PM)
hahaha...my good kawan alrady got a700...so want play macro? drool.gif  drool.gif
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not so soon bro .. no money to buy tamron sp90 .. tongue.gif .. i am waiting my friend taking my canon whitey then only i can get sony whitey .. wink.gif ..
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post Aug 15 2009, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 14 2009, 06:24 PM)
For finer noise reduction, roll down to the 1/2/3 Creative Settings slots at the bottom. They are Contrast Saturation Sharpness Brightness Zone - I set mine to Vivid 0, +1, +3, -2, -1. This provides something saturation while retaining a lot of shadow.
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thanks albert .. btw, r u using this setting for all the pictures or it is just for landscape? .. i tried mine and i got this: ...

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but i tried shoot my friend at putrajaya with flash on, the picture a lil bit weird .. sad.gif .. maybe the light there is not so white, not so yellow, not so green .. sad.gif .. with above picture, i know, i have made the right choice .. biggrin.gif ..


Added on August 15, 2009, 7:26 amguys,

one thing i notice, when i use flash in M mode, why it automatically changes to TTL mode then I have release the shutter?

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Aug 15 2009, 09:30 AM)
nice & beautifil color S_K. Lawa la. Vibrant yet soft colors (ie not too agressive)
boleh post your "a lil bit weird" photo tu tak? Maybe albnok can explain. Im interested to learn more
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i will post it later today because i am off to melaka now .. smile.gif ..

btw guys, how good 50mm 1.8 if compared to minolta 1.7 and sony 50mm 1.4? .. smile.gif .. thinking of getting sony 1.8 if it is good enough .. wink.gif ..
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post Aug 16 2009, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 16 2009, 12:51 AM)
Seng_Kiat: Looks good to me. I use Vivid 0 +1 +3 -2 -1 all the time!

The setting has nothing to do with WB though - if the color is off, then it's your WB.

When the flash is in Manual Power, and the body is in any other mode than Manual Exposure, it will change to TTL. You need to change a setting on the F58 - hold down the Fn button until the Custom Function menu comes out, and scroll to C04 and change it from M to PASM. Now you can flash Manual Power even in Aperture Priority!

And I personally would prefer the 50mm F1.8 DT SAM because it focuses to 38cm close and is contrasty wide open (the F1.4/F1.7 isn't.) However, I do shoot in so much lower light that I really need the F1.4. If you're just going for bokeh, I would much prefer the F1.8 as it gives cleaner bokeh (no bright-lined out-of-focus discs.)
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Thanks albnok .. about flash aperture priority, i have no idea in my mind .. could u explain more or show the pictures (if it is convenient for u).. wink.gif ..

btw, any1 going to KL photography exhibition at midvalley today? hows the price? good bargain price? i am looking for 50mm 1.8 and tripod .. if cheap enough, i am going today .. wink.gif ..

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guys,

I tried to register my F58 but getting error invalid serial or model .. I tried:

Model: HVL-F58AM / HVLF58AM

but didn't work. any idea what should I put in?

I registered my A700 successfully but only got 12 months warranty instead of 18 months .. sad.gif .. CZ1680 has 18 months warranty .. wink.gif ..
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Aug 16 2009, 10:32 AM)
err seng kiat jumped back to sony??
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yup .. biggrin.gif ..

btw guys, can you post picture taken with your A700 at ISO200 or ISO400??? I can see noise even outdoor at ISO200 on my A700 .. ;( .. i just want to make comparison ... either it is just settings or this is the lack of sony dslr .. I am using firmware 4 d ..
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post Aug 16 2009, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Aug 16 2009, 10:45 AM)
oh..sidewinderz jumped to d90...i started to have a bad feeling about C..

to answer ur question... i think maybe ur DRO was set to high level...try see..
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oh, he jumped d?? .. biggrin.gif .. we jumped together last time and i jumped back to sony and he changed to N region .. biggrin.gif ..

erm .. I was using DRO Level 3. Is it considered as high? ..
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QUOTE(gizmo_pony @ Aug 16 2009, 10:52 AM)
Call sony directly to register, easier. Had this problem before. 1300 88 1233.

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yup .. will do tomorrow .. wink.gif ..
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Aug 16 2009, 10:57 AM)
i dono le...check with A700 user. actually wht made u jump back to Sony?
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emm .. any A700 user wanna share the settings, setting tricks etc to produce better picture? . smile.gif ..

I jump back to sony because I like the color produced by sony. So colorful and I can't get it in Canon body with cheapo lens. L lens might produces something different but i have not much money to spend at least rm3k-4k everytime I buy lens. with sony, it produces colorful picture even with cheapo lenses ..

no doubt, nikon is famous with its colorful picture but i give my trust again to sony because of its in-body IS (SSS) .. I can shoot with ease even at 1/5 shutter speed with ANY lens .. the other fact I jumped back to sony is because of the price .. with my budget, I could get A700, CZ1680, F58 and 70-200 (later when I sell off my canon 70-200) .. stated lenses and flash are high end of sony line up .. wink.gif .. I believe i could not get 70-200, sb900 and high end multi purpose lens if I choose Nikon ..

in terms of noise, from my 3 days experience with A700, I found that Sony is slightly behind Canon 40D at high ISO performance. but I believe, A700 produces great picture and good high ISO performance (from reviews, it is on par with Nikon D300). I just need time to get the correct settings .. smile.gif .. it would be a great help if someone share me the settings or tricks that should I alter on my a700 body .. wink.gif ..
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Aug 16 2009, 11:26 AM)
yea i noticed Canon colour is not strong enough..not sure after pumping the Vivid in the setting though. Yea...Sony SSS is nice...i believe ur target 70200 is 3rd party. Btw u jump like tht sure rugi banyak... unless u didnt return the 70200 2.8 to the 'sky'..  laugh.gif
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I am planning to get Sony 70-200 .. biggrin.gif .. but if tamron 70-200 is good enough, I will go for tamron with BG and macro lens with the budget i have .. biggrin.gif .. ah, dont need talk about it since i have no money at the moment .. biggrin.gif .. when the money comes, I will decide it .. biggrin.gif ..
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Aug 16 2009, 11:38 AM)
err...i think nikon 70200 price same as Sony..no? anyway..new 1 came out edi..70200 VRII...rumour saying tht it could reach 10k.
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nope .. it is not same .. sony is just rm5.5k while nikon's is rm6.3k .. that are the street price .. and the price of nikon d300 is rm1k more than a700 ... make it almost rm2k different just for 2 items .. sony flash is just 1.1k white sb900 is 1.6k .. biggrin.gif .. i am not that rich to get nikon .. tongue.gif ..

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Aug 16 2009, 11:52 AM)
nope .. it is not same .. sony is just rm5.5k while nikon's is rm6.3k .. that are the street price .. and the price of nikon d300 is rm1k more than a700 ... make it almost rm2k different just for 2 items .. sony flash is just 1.1k white sb900 is 1.6k .. biggrin.gif .. i am not that reach to get nikon .. tongue.gif ..
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typo detected .. tongue.gif tongue.gif

white = while ..
reach = rich ..

haha .. i was typing while doing something .. tongue.gif .
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QUOTE(hanafinoor @ Aug 16 2009, 11:54 AM)
Well come back - sony is not that expensivelah afterall.
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thanks .. yup .. after thinking back, sony dslr is not that expensive as others claim .. the problem is just if looking for 2nd hand items .. not much people using/selling sony dslr stuffs .. and it makes the price of sony 2nd hand items expensive than others and it is good for seller actually .. we buy new and seller at a lil bit lower price .. not rugi so much ..


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QUOTE(tot31 @ Aug 16 2009, 12:04 PM)
Nikon is for org kaya... tongue.gif (j/k)  laugh.gif ... I don't see any significant noise on A700 at low ISO. Here's a pic of my nephew taken yesterday during his cukur jambul ceremony....
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Lens = 18-70 (Kit Lens)
Focal Length = 50mm
ISO 200
Shutter 1/80
Aperture 5.6

Anyway, I still love A300 IQ.... biggrin.gif
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this pic taken by a300 or a700?

from this pic, i can see the noise a bit .. it is not really clean ... biggrin.gif ...

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