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TSXalvin
post Jul 19 2009, 11:56 PM

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I was thinking during the Bulking phase I should cut down my running/cardio so that I won't burn too much. Only doing about 5-10 minutes of high speed runs.
So I guess I'll stick to crunches. Running will come later.
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post Jul 20 2009, 12:10 AM

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lol, that nonsense that you shouldn't do cardio when you're bulking

suit yr'self, but the benefits of HIIT far outweigh the benefits of eating and sitting at home.

HIIT improves nutrition partitioning, for one. It also increases GH so that helps you bulk.


Added on July 20, 2009, 12:13 amgreat thread, posting here so I can read it myself later

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/bodybuil...yne-norton.html

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post Jul 20 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Jul 19 2009, 01:53 PM)
helmet for what bro?
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It's for the poor soul on top of someone who is trying to do human squat.
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post Jul 20 2009, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jul 20 2009, 12:56 AM)
It's for the poor soul on top of someone who is trying to do human squat.
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post Jul 21 2009, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(renzukukenz @ Jul 20 2009, 12:51 AM)
hey, iam body building too...currently iam 192 cm and 96kg....eating 18 eggs perday...but 2 of it without yolk..and 1 more without the eggwhites...and 1 more i cook it....ill keep up to date with u...goodluck nighttimers!...iam a seriouzkitteh!
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wow you are tall man and 96kg thats WOW,took 18 eggs perday,could have risk? taking those so much shocking.gif

as i heard they said 10 boil eggs will do everyday hmm.gif

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post Jul 21 2009, 11:29 AM

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I don't know if you guys will believe this, but there's strong evidence that shows that more than 20GMS a sitting, will result in waste. There's a study done by a Canadian university, which shows that everytime you take in more than 20GMS, your synthesis (amino acid count) maintains at a level below 20GMS but another synthesis count (the one that shows your urine levels stuff) increases.

It was a consistent study and the researchers have been led to believe that this shows everytime you take excess protein, the body will take the amount it can use (perhaps higher post workout) and drain the others. Many bb'ers have went "WTF?Umad!??" and I would have too, but the Chinese weightlifters have shown that this theory may be consistent.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dehwang/158008058/

Their diets consist of things which are nutrient dense with stuff like vitamins and minerals, essential acids and not just protein protein protein alone.

May be something for you guys out there to ponder about.
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post Jul 21 2009, 12:12 PM

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my meal everyday pls tell me whether is good for me,

12:00 - 12:30pm weight gain/1:00pm chicken rice breast at 6pm weight gain/chicken rice breast again/ at 10pm weight gain/some clean food..

any 1 can advise me is it really good for me?
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In between 1pm to 6pm, try to have something.
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post Jul 21 2009, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(CupCakeGuy @ Jul 21 2009, 12:12 PM)
my meal everyday pls tell me whether is good for me,

12:00 - 12:30pm weight gain/1:00pm chicken rice breast at 6pm weight gain/chicken rice breast again/ at 10pm weight gain/some clean food..

any 1 can advise me is it really good for me?
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You could include some carbs around 4pm. May be some wholemeal bread before your workout.

10pm? Clean food such as? Its already quite late. so either a pre bed protein shake or a glass of milk?
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post Jul 21 2009, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 21 2009, 11:29 AM)
I don't know if you guys will believe this, but there's strong evidence that shows that more than 20GMS a sitting, will result in waste. There's a study done by a Canadian university, which shows that everytime you take in more than 20GMS, your synthesis (amino acid count) maintains at a level below 20GMS but another synthesis count (the one that shows your urine levels stuff) increases.

It was a consistent study and the researchers have been led to believe that this shows everytime you take excess protein, the body will take the amount it can use (perhaps higher post workout) and drain the others. Many bb'ers have went "WTF?Umad!??" and I would have too, but the Chinese weightlifters have shown that this theory may be consistent.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dehwang/158008058/

Their diets consist of things which are nutrient dense with stuff like vitamins and minerals, essential acids and not just protein protein protein alone.

May be something for you guys out there to ponder about.
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Would be helpful to quote the paper. Layne Norton is also studying nutrition and if I'm not mistaken, trying to research about the same thing - nutritional optimas. When to eat, how much to eat, and how much you can take in.


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post Jul 21 2009, 02:55 PM

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Would be helpful to quote the paper. Layne Norton is also studying nutrition and if I'm not mistaken, trying to research about the same thing - nutritional optimas. When to eat, how much to eat, and how much you can take in.
Is this the link?
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?articleID=30&break=2


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post Jul 21 2009, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(CupCakeGuy @ Jul 21 2009, 12:12 PM)
my meal everyday pls tell me whether is good for me,

12:00 - 12:30pm weight gain/1:00pm chicken rice breast at 6pm weight gain/chicken rice breast again/ at 10pm weight gain/some clean food..

any 1 can advise me is it really good for me?
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Stay on topic. Open your own topic if you think there's a real need to ask your question. Or search around.


QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jul 21 2009, 02:07 PM)
Would be helpful to quote the paper. Layne Norton is also studying nutrition and if I'm not mistaken, trying to research about the same thing - nutritional optimas. When to eat, how much to eat, and how much you can take in.
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I can't quote the paper, because I can't remember the speaker's name. I listened to her talk recently and was hella intrigued by the results. Also I remember when I had a full body check up. The nurse said my protein levels were too high and said something quite alike. Something like, don't be caught in the bodybuilder's belief of excess protein for muscle growth and then compromise my health

That time I thought she was just being a typical nurse, but heck....I reduced protein and increase fat and carbs. I finally touched the 81KG mark. In 1 week biggrin.gif I still see some abs.....so it can't be all fat.
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post Jul 21 2009, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 21 2009, 11:29 AM)
I don't know if you guys will believe this, but there's strong evidence that shows that more than 20GMS a sitting, will result in waste. There's a study done by a Canadian university, which shows that everytime you take in more than 20GMS, your synthesis (amino acid count) maintains at a level below 20GMS but another synthesis count (the one that shows your urine levels stuff) increases.

It was a consistent study and the researchers have been led to believe that this shows everytime you take excess protein, the body will take the amount it can use (perhaps higher post workout) and drain the others. Many bb'ers have went "WTF?Umad!??" and I would have too, but the Chinese weightlifters have shown that this theory may be consistent.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dehwang/158008058/

Their diets consist of things which are nutrient dense with stuff like vitamins and minerals, essential acids and not just protein protein protein alone.

May be something for you guys out there to ponder about.
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Are you aware of the potential devastation this could cause to the cottage cheese/canned tuna industries?

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post Jul 22 2009, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jul 21 2009, 10:00 PM)
Are you aware of the potential devastation this could cause to the cottage cheese/canned tuna industries?
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Probably about a huge 10% of their total sales.
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post Jul 25 2009, 03:23 AM

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QUOTE(lcsum @ Jul 17 2009, 11:36 AM)
dude what is your height?

wow almost 14 egg whites per day + 3 yolks  sweat.gif  whey can make your life simple....

your preworkout meal must contain some carb which can be easily used as fuel during the workout, milk will take some time to digest and oats is complex carb take it in the morning for breakfast
try to switch your tuna sandwhich with the oats ...

after workout take your next meal ( carb + protein) within 1 hour to avoid muscle protein being used as fuel.....
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whey is supplement
its okay to take eggs but i think he needs to vary his diet a bit
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unless desperate, take whey with low or no fat milk
at least got vitamins and other healthy stuff

as for post workout, i keep in mind that the 1hr thing is a myth
its half an hour...haha to avoid me procastinating
so try and get whey post workout or as per darklight last time get something with high protein, low fat and got high cals (but good cals)

QUOTE(Xalvin @ Jul 19 2009, 11:33 PM)
Half-boiled much easier to consume.
Add with Oyster Sauce (Trust me on this, its very very nice) or just add Soya Sauce.
If Oyster Sauce, add little by little, because it is very concentrated.

Honestly, I'm in love with the taste. It's like drinking one of those thick and rich soups.

Actually I'm quite surprised with my own weight gain. Which is why I was also getting worried that I'm eating wrongly.
Just checked the weights again, gained to 71 kg.

My tummy is starting to get bloated, will need to start drilling on crunches again.
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soya sauce if lama2, muak
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as per the forumers, crunching does nothing
perhaps, u need to consider cardio too
no such thing as no cardio in bulking
to me, cardio is in every type of regime
tweak accordingly eh

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post Jul 25 2009, 03:48 AM

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Wanna try DeFranco's abs circuit? =D
It's in Youtube.

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TSXalvin
post Aug 2 2009, 05:02 PM

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Guys, I think I'm gaining body fat. I used this calculator to find out
http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

Used the tape measurement method where I measure my neck, height and abdomen.
Body fat shows 16%. Is this good? For their table , 13-17% of body fat are for "Fitness" level.
But according to this article :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hugo41.htm

It says there I should always cut down to 10% body fat before I start bulking up again. Oh and if I stand up straight I still can see my six packs I used to always have, just that when I'm sitting my abs will bulge but still can feel six packs. Friends have commented that I've put on alot of muscle, but also some said I have gotten a tummy already. Is this because of internal fats that causes bulge?

So far I'm only running on the threadmill at 9.5km/h for 10 minutes before workout. How much more should I increase my cardio? I used to run for 20 minutes with speed varying from 8km/h to 12 km/h. But ever since I heard that cardio should be reduced for bulking, I've reduced my time on the threadmill.

Also, can I just concentrate on running on the threadmill or jogging around the neighbourhood? All those cycling machines and aerobic machines are not necessary right?


 

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