QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 14 2009, 04:48 PM)
mobo touches case causin short circuit? my new
AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V19, There's still few beasts hiding...
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Jul 14 2009, 04:52 PM
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Jul 15 2009, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jul 15 2009, 12:16 AM) if u know how to oc, u aint a noob bro... i reckon some x3 720 can do 3.3/3.4GHz w stock volt, give it a try. QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 15 2009, 01:03 AM) Hehe. that board is capable of unlockin core(s) & run 'em stably bro. Ermm. Not too sure the mobo can unlock o not. Need to wait all of those Phenom sifoo to help u. -pWs- from indon site: http://mitramsi.com/ from xs: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...7&highlight=msi * i'm not responsible for any damage incurred. This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 15 2009, 08:29 AM |
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Jul 15 2009, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 15 2009, 08:59 AM) Yup. If your current BIOS is not the one, you need to flash to unlock the core. Enable ACC. Am I right? -pWs- btw, off topic a 'lil: is ya pair of khx runnin on elpida -dj-e chippies bro? thinkin of hootin a pair of kvr runnin on d mentioned chips... |
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Jul 15 2009, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 15 2009, 09:25 AM) I m not sure whether is running on Elpida o not. But recent news saying that having issue w Elpida ram. Guess better avoid that bro. -pWs- QUOTE UPDATE: Kingston, the worlds largest module maker/vendor and a very close partner of elpida has unofficially anounced that they will replace elpida hyper chips with another chip in the immediate future. faulty elpida hyper modules will be replaced with new modules based on another ddr3 chip (which one is unknown so far) source: @ XtremeSystems those havin issues are elpida hyper chippies rite? hope i made d rite choice coz i booked d ram ledi... it's kinda cheap that's why i just hoot w/o thinkin, hopefully they'll do well on d upcomin ddr3 board... This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 15 2009, 09:39 AM |
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Jul 15 2009, 10:12 AM
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Jul 15 2009, 10:36 AM
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Elite
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 15 2009, 10:23 AM) Yup luckily only Elpida Hyper chips affected, my KVR are also Elpida's no bro, not goin ddr3 so soon but since they com cheap i just grab. gonna sell off my single core 3800+, backup ram + xtra 120mm fans. Woooooo somebodi also jumping to DDR3 i see This time loan from whom plak?? Ur in-laws??? no more loan available... |
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Jul 15 2009, 10:47 AM
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Elite
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 15 2009, 10:40 AM) as my prediction... not so sure bout older 790gx boards from biostar but 790gxe has an imc volt that max out @ 1.25v only... i will be the last man here to stay at ddr2..or mebbe ventrilocks the last.. @cloudwan..where to set the ht and nb volt at ta790gx 128? cant find it.. but i did saw the volt at bios HW health tab |
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Jul 15 2009, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(digswell @ Jul 15 2009, 10:53 AM) Check this in bios i think that's referrin to nb voltage bro, which doesn't help much if nb freq is to be oc'ed, what matters most is d cpu-nb vid a.k.a imc volt. i mite be wrong thou... Chipset Over Voltage This item allows you to select NB/SB Voltage Control. Options: 1.15V (Default) / 1.25V / 1.35V / 1.45V QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 15 2009, 10:54 AM) haish...thats hard..since i cant find the option to change the volt.. as mentioned by bro digs, all are under t-series page, try out those available & verify 'em usin biostar hw monitor. u can even use d oc software by biostar to save u some times on rebootin. anyway..in bios what is the name for it? nb-vid? cpu-nb volt? the mobo nb volt yes..i can change... ram is maxed out at 1016mhz using 800 divider...at 5-5-5 timing @1.9vdimm.. even i pump 2.1v doesnt help.. so far the nb-freq i can get stable at 277X.XXmhz... but to gain the 3.8 i lower it down.. what is the most stable nb-freq and ht combination? anyone knows? i belive it is the mobo NB right? but i can set at 1.20/1.30 and so on... running at 1.30v since using htt alot... optimal setting (for 24/7) for ht link & nb freq is around 2100MHz, with ht link multi 1x lower or equal to nb multi. This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 15 2009, 11:01 AM |
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Jul 15 2009, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 15 2009, 11:04 AM) what is the name in bios? nb freq = nb multi * htt. here.. done early in the morning..starts oc at 6 and end up to this setting at 10.30am » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « @digswell..will again seek for it.. but i havent find since the 1st day using this proc..or mebbe need newer bios? what is the safe max volt for them? for 24/7 usage only.. @ah khoo ic.. 2100mhz. orait but u know how to calculate the nb-freq? i think i read somewhere..will seek again later..(but i cant understand..got hex la..ape la QUOTE(babyyi @ Jul 15 2009, 11:31 AM) dun wori bro kunta...i tink i will the last ppl usein ddr2....=.=.. 790gxe is a great board, d only compartment where it's inferior to dfi is ram tweakin capability, but we are talkin bout 790gx vs 790fx here. budget wise dfi is alot more expensive, so go figures... u know whre rock rock shop located? tired for waiting TA790GXE..mayb going hunt DFI... This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 15 2009, 11:45 AM |
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Jul 15 2009, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(xcen @ Jul 15 2009, 02:53 PM) See who can tahan longer haha. I'm still using DDR2 and I'm lazy to change to 770-C45. pros:Btw, what's the main advantages of 790GXE and 790GX 128M? 1. an additional phase pwm @ cpu 2. an additional phase pwm @ memory 3. chokes are of better quality 4. green power utility (active phase switchin like msi i supposed) for better power efficiency 5. more clockable (my own opinion only) con: 1. limited bios for core(s) unlockin (still new) |
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Jul 15 2009, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jul 15 2009, 03:16 PM) don't worry, with me here you definitely wont be the last one at ddr2 imo, either chipset or chip doesn't like ddr667 divider when htt > 230ish. mine can boot but w/ cmos cleared... btw guys, need a bit of help. using extreem's screenshots i've managed to set up my 9150e at 2.5GHz, now i'm lowering the cpu voltage to find the lowest stable (complete opposite of usual exploration overclocking try to find out d max freq ya ram can do, then use ddr800 divider. if ya ram is good then u mite able to reach 280htt which is as ya wish. mine max out near 270htt & i'm on lousy twinmos value ram. This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 15 2009, 03:43 PM |
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Jul 15 2009, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jul 15 2009, 05:07 PM) alrighty, i'll give it a shot and see how it goes. i've reset the cmos so many times that all the settings i could probably do with my eyes closed now hmm... i had my hands on oem ram w/ elpida 6e-e chippies b4, only managed a 950MHz @ 5-5-5-x. gud luck in ya attempts then... NO WAY IN HELL! yup, at first i thought biostar board issue, then end up dfi (be it 790gx or 790fxb) oso d same... it's hard when one doesn't has a chip w/ unlocked multi... This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 15 2009, 05:47 PM |
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Jul 16 2009, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jul 15 2009, 07:27 PM) thanks for the tip ah_khoo, i set the divider to 800 and its doing well, had to lower my fsb a bit though, which sucks. lost about 70MHz, due to my ram's limitations i guess. it's ok to sacrifice some clock in order to maximize d bandwidth mate, give & take we must. current overclock would be: FSB = 272MHz HT Multi = 7x (1400MHz) NB Multi = 7x CPU = 2448MHz RAM = 1088 (5-5-5-18) havent primed it yet, but i'll probably do so tonight after i test how low the voltages can go ;/) nice freq on d ram there, vdimm needed is? QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 15 2009, 11:34 PM) and at aod..i can set the cpu and nb-cpu volt..but both will be exactly the same.. the slider will show same value after i apply.. biostar boards are known to be AOD unfriendly, i only use it for ACC adjust most of d time coz it's too unstable for even voltage adjustment. it's a fact that u gonna live w/ it as long as ur on biostar 790gx board. alternatively u can use biostar oc tool to tweak d volts... haish..too much prob ar this board..sell off and get a gxe instead. blend = 1sec then 1 worker fail small = can run until i stop at 10mins large= can run until i stopa at 7mins IBT maximum 7loop = pass what is the prob?cpu and ram can run atleast 5mins stable..but if blend then cannot.. :/stars: :/stars: :/stars: here some ss.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « it said cant utilize FFT code..what is that? blend test fail mostly related to mem, be it timing, vdimm or imc. a fast google session tells me that it (d error ur gettin) could be page file related. Source QUOTE(xcen @ Jul 16 2009, 12:12 AM) If I were to get a heatsink... xigmatek blowin up Xigmatek Dark Knight vs Core Contact Freezer CCF has a little bit better performance but Dark Knight looks too sexay.. :/drool: ccf blowin towards exhaust fan QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jul 16 2009, 03:57 AM) Btw fellas, i've been priming using 4 instances running custom with 400mb of ram to each. does this sound sufficient to test for stability? i couldnt run all the instances with blend because it tends to use almost all the available ram, so unless you run 1 blend and the other 3 cpu only i'm guessing what i'm doing makes sense? i use p95 & my habit is run custom, leave everything untouched (min @ 8k, max @ 4096) except amount of ram & time. amount of ram @ 1024MB (i'm on 4GB), time @ 1min (fastest way to complete 1 full cycle > near to 3 hours compared to 15Min which require almost 8 hours to complete 1 cycle). in case u dunno, p95 stresses systems more than orthos does. QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 16 2009, 08:38 AM) i think... nb speed need to increase to able to coupe with the fast proc... so no bottle necking of nb occur.. u ain't need 28xx nb freq for 24/7 especially when no benchies are ran, a 2200MHz is more than enuf ledi... but increase nb will sacrifice stability..so in order to stable at that vcore and nb volt, i lower down the nb freq... i did tried with 28XX at 3.6ghz..its cant even prime at 10mins..lower down abit, i can... correct me if im wrong then This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 16 2009, 09:44 AM |
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Jul 16 2009, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(striderhiryu @ Jul 16 2009, 10:11 AM) hi.. i just want to ask what kinda user r u? r u those hardware swinger which changes hardwares alot or faithful lover who only upgrade once every few years? is it worth to upgrade Phenom II AM2+ 940 or just get AM3 for the future? thx if ur d latter then there's no harm goin for am2+, else, go for am3. w some luck in gettin an unlockable + stable x2 550be, u can actually save up some $$$ in gettin a real quaddy. d key is to get an unlockable + stable x2 550be. This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 16 2009, 10:25 AM |
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Jul 16 2009, 10:35 AM
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Jul 16 2009, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jul 16 2009, 02:03 PM) haha, i can definitely understand that. unfortunately, that OC was unstable in the memory test, i was getting errors in sp2004 and then i decided to clock it with memtest, also no luck regardless of the voltage. i didnt dare go beyond 2.25, and it was still erroring so now i'm pushing it back to the 3:4 (533) divider and pushing my fsb as far as it can go. i'll try it with p95 later yup, that's d spirit, if u get things done in a harder way, u tends to appreciate it more. i'm not khx hater but imo khx ddr2 aint perform up to d level of performance ram. how bout 26xhtt w/ ddr800 divider on ram? u can shave off some volt for d chip + fully utilize ya ram? just a suggest thou, coz i prefer a more balanced setup for 24/7. current settings would be: fsb: 285mhz cpu: 2567mhz @ 1.26V ram: 760mhz (4-4-4-12) @ 1.8V will try tightening my timings again later This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 16 2009, 02:14 PM |
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Jul 16 2009, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 16 2009, 02:33 PM) Yup hoping to see their prices here, i'm thinking of maybe something like the current 780G prices i think from what i read last time, 785g is nothing but an overclocked 790gx. hmm... but w/ d cf capability coupled w/ sb710 which can do core unlockin tricks, sure it has some sellin points if d price comes cheap... thinkin of goin back to "B" w/ ddr3 now... QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jul 16 2009, 02:35 PM) i have to agree, for some reason the newer khx's dont live up to the name. right now i'm just benching this cpu cause its going to my sis to do her rendering work, while i move on to a "dual core". moderno, i'll be visiting you soon woot, ur gonna be new x2 550be user soon mate? great coz d jr board is capable of runnin unlocked chips stably. as for the cas timings i was so pissed off at the damned rams for not working at 667 divider, and then some more the silly mobo go put such stupid timings like 5-6-6-18 on sub-800 timings. i was like nabei, take that! and then ran it through memtest lol... ddr2 khx sure disappoint me... i got a pair b4 which can't do ddr2 800 @ 5-5-5-x even it's rated @ that freq... off topic: r u from jb mate? This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 16 2009, 02:57 PM |
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Jul 16 2009, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 16 2009, 03:05 PM) Hmmm 785g has a bit better config i think than a 780g with its native support of 6ch LPM.. when i see a 790gx a3+ sellin @ RM355 only there was a voice inside my head tellin me i must try ddr3 in order to stay updated... Beside on AMD side we still need an update interm of a better spec M-ATX mobo.. M-ATX mobo are kinda scare nowdays Goin for DDR3 on a "B" bro?? Why not? Go for it bro will see how's d sale of my Devil board 1st, if thing goes well then "B"ack for Good is inevitable... |
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Jul 16 2009, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 16 2009, 03:25 PM) R & R for ah_khoo nowadays:1. must not have extra stuffs pilin in d room. 2. old stuffs must go b4 new stuffs come in. 3. no more loan unless old ones cleared. u see my situation bro... i thought ur sellin off ya raven? d $$$ can buy more than a board ledi... |
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 16 2009, 03:32 PM) Demmmmm RM355 only meh? If only it was priced like that back then when i bought my mobo :/x yup, that's d latest price from kitkit in garage sale bro. u should have wait for few more weeks... Miahahaha, go go ah_khoo.. By the way the candidate DDR3 u already single out ker? Don't tell me u gonna go for KVR also :/lol: :/P yup, d el cheapo ddr3 i reserved few days back... cheaper than my ex reaper which is sold @ $110... i'm gettin more & more el cheapo nowadays. from what i heard, 1gb module on dj-e is capable of doin DDR3 1800 @ 9-9-9-x on intel, if 2gb module can do DDR3 1600 @ 8-8-8-x that would be great... QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 16 2009, 03:37 PM) change it next year ah khoo can't wait next year bro, else my ddr3 will turn rusty... so then i can buy ur mobo leh..huuu no..i feel the most right and most left (left side of #1 and right side of #4) so no bad airflow at those 2 place.. in between yes.. but still hotter then when running 2rams... nvm la..will take out later.. just wan to see the bling2..hehehe @ah khoo.. ur right..it short circuit.. i put a "half screw" (donno waht to call it) at the place that have no hole at the mobo..so the ramslot lands on it... haish..sorry last time This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jul 16 2009, 03:53 PM |
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