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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V19, There's still few beasts hiding...

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post Jul 20 2009, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(amdhunter @ Jul 20 2009, 07:57 AM)
u flash using ????
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u can use d windows based flasher according to sources i've read. smile.gif
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QUOTE(babyyi @ Jul 20 2009, 08:36 AM)
after flash i can boot...

after i set to  4 core thn cant be boot any more...

bro khoo...help.....
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clear cmos, unplug d power source & wait for bout 1 min. try to on again. smile.gif
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QUOTE(babyyi @ Jul 20 2009, 08:53 AM)
stil the same o...phase1-4 led on....led1n2 off...
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try to boot w/ one stick of ram @ d dimm nearest to cpu area? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(babyyi @ Jul 20 2009, 09:07 AM)
same same o...power up just saw tat 4 phase led on...
thn wan power off aso cant....

nd to plug out psu cable...

help~~~...
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plug out all d power connectors on mobo, take out d battery & leave it for hours... that's 2nd last resort. last one should be hot flash... sweat.gif

which bios u flashed & how it was done? i've tried those provided by pc criminal @ xs w/ d windows flasher everything was ok, but i found 'em not suitable for my x4 810 so i reverted back to official bios which is 04/24/09. smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(babyyi @ Jul 20 2009, 09:14 AM)
yday when i slp i edi take out all thing on mobo...thn nw stil the same...=.=
wat means by hot flash?

flash the latest 1 on extremesystems .....july tat1.....after flash can be booting ...
after change setting thn cant d...hmm...
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hotflash mean get an exactly same board w/ healthy bios chip boot up & go into dos flashin mode, unplug d healthy chip & plug in d sick bios chip & finally run d bios flasher. voila... after this d sick bios chip is healthy again... sounds simple but not so simple rite? laugh.gif

bios date 06/29/09? i had problem too after flashed, but after clear cmos & unplug power source then managed to boot up, try few attempts but not really d one for my chip (to be honest i've found none is suitable atm or i'm too new to this sweat.gif ). finally i gave up & flashed back d official bios. doh.gif

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Jul 20 2009, 10:40 AM)
lulz..another one victim..
kunta with possibility dead mobo coz stress it long time..

babyyi possibility with unstable bios
if can't work.. RMA is the last choice lor...
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what to do sis, d fever of x2 550BE is spreadin like H1N1 virus in here... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Jul 20 2009, 10:56 AM)
lulz.. it's about sharing.. oc is consume a lot of time to test... not stress all the time

for bios, no comment laugh.gif luck is no 1
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yup, patience is d key, which some of here don't have, includin me... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 20 2009, 11:12 AM)
Yeah..thats why me rarely use "stressing" tools..usually if gaming fine..everything is fine no BSOD..considered good edy..But still sometimes..for extra-care i do test..but not so long la - -..Usually 30 mins sth like that..
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there's no problem stressin for 1 hour or 2 as long as d volt is friendly enuf, d friendly could be subjective but i never prime my chip @ > 1.5v for hours, that wud be insane unless cooling is not a concern. 30 mins of p95 w/ time to run each fft @ default (15mins) doesn't really stress much of ya oc'ed setup, most likely u'll end up runnin 2~3 test only which imo is not enuf to justify TOTAL stability. smile.gif

after countless time of restarts, i come to realize that d board is not as forgivin as dfi. in case of vcore and/or not enuf, dfi board will just fail in p95 but on biostar there's no room for p95 to fail coz it'll restart rite way.... tongue.gif

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it's either my head or d board/ram need to burn in b4 headin for further mileage... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 20 2009, 02:10 PM)
mobo confirm jahanam edi..now waiting to send to rma..
so will buy a ddr3 board la

canu all pls suggest ddr3 board? biostar a3 is ok or not?
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kit_kit is sellin it @ a knock down price = RM355 ONLY, grab it fast while stock last... brows.gif

QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jul 20 2009, 02:11 PM)
looks ah_khoo using it..seems good to me.. nod.gif
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ain't too gud for my chip, guess it is made for x2 550BE coz pc criminal @ xs is doin really gud w/ d board... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 20 2009, 02:28 PM)
u have any suggestion on other board sis? i always thinking of want to flee for biostar...
hows ur board doing?
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msi 790gx-g65 was on my mind b4, but d bigger price tag really push me away from gettin it. it's still within friendly range in lyn (last time i checked it was sellin @ RM475) thou it's RM125 more expensive than kit_kit's special price for 790gx a3+. but in sgp, d diff between d 2 is a whoppin $95 difference which is approximately RM233. it was a clear choice for me back then when i purchased d a3+ on last friday. nod.gif

for a board that cost only RM355 for a full solid caps, w/ cf, firewire, full size atx (unlike other 790gx series which is not full sized atx) & etc... what else u could ask for... a steal i'd say... notworthy.gif

board is OK only for my chip but samples in xs show they're gud enuf for X2 550BE @ quad, it can even handle a 955BE pretty well... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 20 2009, 02:40 PM)
wud my mind telling me the safe vcore for this board to prime 1hr..not for daily usage ofcos...im thinking of getting one... and in my mind is OCZ and KVR ram...any diff between em?
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d new dual plane boards really improved alot imo (those newer boards w/ 4+1 pwm @ cpu & 2 pwm @ mem like 790gxe 128m and 790gx a3+), u can see better components are used on 'em. i did prime w/ 1.42v (790gxe 128m) b4 & i think i got a ss showin prime @ 1.3xV for long hours but nothing seems to be wrong w/ it. i didn't get any complaint from d buyer oso who's also runnin an unlocked x2 550BE on it. d important thing is to keep d mosfets cooled... nod.gif

no comment for d ram as i'm ddr3 newbie... icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 20 2009, 02:53 PM)
dual plane board? means there is older one la? so kit kit selling the dual plane or what? sorry..imma noob on this..
seems like u recommend me to go to this board..500 +kvr is still wthin my budget...
haiya.. the bios is AMI right?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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dual plane = those boards w/ 4 + 1 pwm = generally newer boards from biostar = 790gxe 128m + 790gx a3+ are 2 of 'em. smile.gif

to go for it or not really depend on ya moolah, RM500+ is just nice for a 790gx a3+ and a pair of kvr (2nd hand preferred) provided kit_kit still have stock coz i asked him/her few days back he/she mentioned that d stock available was few piece only after that d price will go back to RM37x/38x... sweat.gif

there are only few board manufacturers use award bios, dfi, giga & jetway iirc... sad.gif

@ amdhunter,

yup, 790gx a3+. nod.gif

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QUOTE(amdhunter @ Jul 20 2009, 03:01 PM)
@ah_khoo
Same model with me  nod.gif
Btw,u using what bios?  hmm.gif
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doesn't really matter coz we're not usin d same chip. i'm on 04/29/09 official bios as per my ss. smile.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Jul 20 2009, 05:52 PM)
make sure u got white box for biostar model laugh.gif
don't know if it's true or not... what i saw, there is another version (red box) maybe, have problem with official bios.. i seen on cloudwan's case.. and another once can't remember

if wrong, forgive me
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could those from china/taiwan? never see one in sgp thou, it's all white box over here... nod.gif

btw, a 'lil update, d board and / or ram sure take time to warm up coz i was havin headache gettin 'em stable > 1 hours yesterday but today they show some improvements which is comfortin... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jul 20 2009, 10:05 PM)
using KVR right sis?
gang and 1t can stable? also at CL7... im getting this ram too la...since the OCZ platinum is rated 1.8vdimm..haish..
what is the max u able to obtain? is this it?

y i saw ppl selling at 12X..i thought it was 110 right?
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u can always undervolt & tighten d timin even d pair/stick rated @ higher volt/ timin. it's all bout luck in gettin sticks w/ better chipset & not forgettin some skills & time in tweakin. nod.gif

patience is d key, gonna take it slow & easy, but w/ those kinda timin, i'm sure they'll hit d wall soon... sweat.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 20 2009, 10:14 PM)
Oooooo u got the KVR running at lower latency bro??  :/drool:  :/drool:
1.66v plak tuh  :/drool:  :/drool:
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where have u been bro, been waitin for ya reply for ages for some guidance... yawn.gif

QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Jul 20 2009, 10:16 PM)
i'm not so sure.. but it's reminder... just pay the attention and prepare the bad possibility before doing something thumbup.gif
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exactly... smile.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 20 2009, 10:19 PM)
yup, don't skimp on those /p/e/m/a/l/a/s when flashing using afudos  :/lol:  :/lol: :/P
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d modded bios nowadays are windows flasher friendly, especially those in .cet format... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(mizivincible @ Jul 20 2009, 10:54 PM)
Even 8 hours of stressing the proc alone wont give you stableproof system. If your apps arent responding you might wanna check out other things like ram timing, or most probably vcore tak cukup lorr.

An SS consisting of CPUZ cpu tab and memory would be good tho.

p/s : Long time didnt post here tho, looks like u guys have alot of new toys to play, me stick to the old 3800+ F3 only.
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gotta agree w/ that bro. prime doesn't necessarily guarantee total stability, but it'll give u some idea how stable d overclocked setup is. nod.gif

u stick to 3800+ f3 only meh? tongue.gif

i thought ur on e8400 which is doin 4.0GHz atm, could be even higher as d result is not a finished product yet... brows.gif

QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Jul 20 2009, 10:56 PM)
New target achieve.. looks like it will stay 1.088v @ 3.0Ghz

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as usual, great job sis... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jul 21 2009, 01:36 AM)
Miahaha, been busy ah bro these few days, went balik kampung for the weekend then have to hantar my youngest bro to KL for his Diploma studies in ASWARA KL.. :/sweat:
Tired as hell.. :/lol:
I don't think i can help u much with DDR3 tweaking coz still learning as u are, besides i haven't tested tweaking the ram too much coz still learning about my cpu limitation :/sweat:
Sori bro/sis...
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i see... thoght u were bz hangin out w ya chick until forget to give help ledi... tongue.gif

what a gud brother u r... biggrin.gif

sesame learnin loh... ddr3 sure something new to us... sweat.gif
QUOTE(strife_personified @ Jul 21 2009, 02:22 AM)
hoho, based on Regor. imagine if you could unlock it from x1 to x4
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if that's doable amd is shootin themselves at their own feet... laugh.gif

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d board sure like to overvolt at some stage... sad.gif

would like to keep d volt down a 'lil but not now perhaps, i'll be damn happy if it can do 3.5GHz @ 1.328v, just like what dfi managed to do. nod.gif

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as mentioned bro, there's no guarantee in unlockin but gettin d same batch like those proven batch definitely boost up d possibility of havin a healthy unlockable cores. smile.gif

if $$$ is a concern, biostar is d only choice, i doubt that asus/gigabyte gonna cost < RM500. when d diff is about RM150 or above, it's obvious to me which i'd go for if i'm on tight budget. mind not bout d latest bios can't unlock cores coz there will always be beta bioses provided in forums like xs & bbs. nod.gif

i won't say there'll be totally no side effect after unlockin, but as long as ur runnin 'em w acceptable volt for 24/7, d unlocked cores should be able to last as long as d others. wink.gif

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QUOTE(duncan880409 @ Jul 21 2009, 10:40 AM)
among the three board 2 of them i know the price,
Biostar is <RM500
Asus is +-RM500
Gigabyte not sure, will ask today
ok, what the batch that CAN unlocked the core well, i mean already proven well
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biostar > kit_kit sellin @ RM355
asus + giga sure > RM500

go figures... laugh.gif

list of batch can be found HERE

QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jul 21 2009, 10:41 AM)
even with stock speed n stock voltage can freeze! sweat.gif
n thats wat happen to me..but it freeze 1 sec only..dunno why..anyone hv any idea?
the 3 mobo is good already..i would choose which mobo has more phase power design..
for proc u need to google which batch can unlock sucessfully..
can use stock cooler..but not recommended when u unlock..coz u cant monitor the temperature..
for RAM it is ur preferences..if wanna OC more performance RAM to go..
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freeze for 1 sec & ok again could be i/o issue. but if it's not givin any instablilty shouldn't be a problem no? unsure.gif

yup, d more power phase d merrier but it spells more $$$ as well. whistling.gif

for more bout power phases u can read d slides here:

http://forums.vr-zone.com/ban-leong-virtua...est-survey.html

seems like asus is bashin giga "indirectly"... tongue.gif


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gotta stop postin for today... sweat.gif

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again, spoon feedin aint gonna do u guys any good. a simple google can easily get u d answers... rolleyes.gif

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more ss here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=1441608

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there's no memset compatible w/ our board atm i think, i've tried few version but none is workin... sad.gif

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