sorry, i do remember ferrara, my mistake...but he did won the tactical game against mourinho just i think he a bit 2 defensive minded coach from what i seen, mayb still 2 early 2 judge him but u juve fan know better than me...

If there gonna be a player dat should got rid/leaved juve...its gonna be a long queue starting with molinaro,tiago,
poulsen,legro(not juve class),canna(too old),grygera(average),zebina(average),salihamidzic(injury prone),
iaquinta(most wasteful striker id ever saw), amauri(total useless & waste of money)

But IMO...no wait...in my CRUEL opinion...only Giovinco,Marchisio,
Chiellini,Camo,Buffon,Sissoko deserved to be on this team




nope...he didn't won the tactical battle against mourinho.. More accurately..he's never won a "tactical battle" against mourinho bcoz hes
always fall into the mind game dat Jose created several time this season. As i posted before, the player dat won the game vs Inter.
The likes of marchisio,chiellini,buffon & caceres dat perform at 110% for the team.

and guess what...if we're to down 0-1 against Inter in last week match. Surely he gonna made his "smart move" by replacing
Del Piero with legrotaglie and Diego with Grygera.The objective/target are we shouldn't lose more than 1-0. Sigh...



**sorry guys if some of my post/comment sound like sarcastic/abusive. Just can't hide my frustration la...haha

i hope our team will get some new good player soon..

Haha...Tiago has so far stubbornly refuse to leave even though shown the door a few times lol.

I was criticial of Poulsen, but I take it back this season. He has adapted well to Juve's style of playing this season, so I think he's worthy to stay back. Not flashy but he does reminds me of the hardness that Tacchinardi provided last time in front of the defenders. Of course he's not up to Edgar David's quality la.

Our defenders are definitely a problematic area, other than the first 4 choices (Carceres, Canna, Chielini, Grosso), the rest are so far behind.

Iaquinta, and Amauri...well those 2 are the least of our problems. We got bigger problems to solve. Our attack, I think ciro can let Immobile to have more play time. Seen his dipping shot against Atalanta? Needed a defender to head it off over the bar with the keeper beaten.

ciro screw up again
4-1 defeat is unacceptable !

of coz he is. I mean which coach gonna swap Del Piero with Poulsen (defensive minded coach will satisfied if getting
a draw while attacking play coach would not tolerate anything other than a win)when we should searching more goals.
So from the substitution we can see which type of coach Ciro is.

oso Diego did played bad(i mean he really somewhat selfish in the recent game) but if i were the coach i wouldn't even
think to subbed him and put that useless..no skill..no speed..out of form Amauri. I mean who gonna dictated any attack
from midfield? And bringing giovinco in, for what..? 8 minutes left or something..wat he's gonna do in dat little time?
I'd know were ended up drawing or losing the moment ciro swap ADP with poulsen. Well guess what? Were not just losing...
but ending up outplayed and get trashed in front of our own faithfuls...

And about our striking department..trust me ciro not gonna fielded Immobile anytime soon. If the established player like
Gio can be a bench warmer...immobile...no chance. Now the worst case scenario is giovinco might opt for leaving due to lack
of playing time he get..well hes not in his 17 @ 18 anymore..

If got to choose between Iaquinta & Amauri, id rather iaquinta be our main striker...if he's a wasteful and got little finishing
skill...atleast he got pace and can play on the wing and can create chances for others.. While for amauri..well i don't need
to insulted him more.. Amauri for WC? Thank you i'll pass..


***anyone...i think it would be great if marchisio play as targetmen lol Well u see some of his finishing is world class
like last year 1-0 win over viola and last week goal vs inter. If amauri @ iaquinta in that situation vs inter last week..
they surely gonna balloon the ball or ended up in keepers hand lol:P:P:P:P

speechless

hard luck guys, feel pity to u all (milan fan here)
failing to reach KO stage is already a shame, let alone defeated at home (or should it be the other way?)
btw i only know the scoreline, cant comment on the team performance.

thx dude. As i posted before..i don't mind if we're destined to lose..even at home.
But one thing dat made me feel like wanna snap is our team pathetic performance
throughout the match. Its like they were satisfied with 1 goal lead and wanna play
for a draw. We don't deserved the 4-1 scoreline. Heck it should have been 6 or 7.

But the defeat is quite unfair to the likes of buffon, caceres, camo, marchisio coz they're only
player who play with winning mentality.

BTW thank goodness the team dat we played last night did missing some of the key players.
If it was barca @ chelsea with their full squad we're playing last night. With those negative
tactics by somewhat average player it could end up like tennis scoreline for us.

Starting from now on (as long were don't change our tactics,mentality & mostly coach), I don't
want to predict anything. Quite weird when im expect them to win or draw atleast (bordeaux &
cagliari match) they ended up losing. When i'd expect them to lose(inter game) they're winning
(of coz with luck factor). And when most fan including me expect they will win or atleast draw
with bayern after inter victory..they got tear to shreds...

juventus becoming like liverpool liao. against big teams, win big big. against smaller "should have no problem to beat" lose teruk teruk....

March as targetman? He lack the physique la...he's going to get injured very often, especially in Serie A.

Even Legro might be better as a targetman. At least he will be more than happy to boss ppl around haha. Fancy converting him?

Its going to be weird if Inter and Barca also crash out of UCL. Europa League is really going to be another mini-UCL if that happens.

As for the bayern-juve match, as soon as I heard chiellini is injured....Juventus is going to bocor 1-2 goals...not did I expect up to 4 goals



This post has been edited by SnoWFisH: Dec 9 2009, 08:47 PM

as soon as i heard momo and chiellini out plus legro starting at CB. I know
were doomed. Plus dat "smart move" by ciro during half time..were super
doomed. Well the past is past. Pls do focus on europa league dis time. At least
if we go far in this tournament it could be a little something to smile about for
us the fans.

erm, is it one of the problem is the coach?
is he that bad, compared to his predecessor, ranieri?
(ranieri hater detected, hehe. but seriously, i hate that guy since his days in chelsea)

if juventus style is to be defensive, then get a very coach who's very good at defensive tactics - none other than cesare maldini, paolo maldini's dad. he took italy pretty far with his ultra defensive tactics.

If Ciro doesn't back up tactically, he might really be shown the door. I hope someone like Dino Zoff or Spaletti will replace him if it really happens. Then we'll see a attacking minded juve who doesn't really rely on its defence (with one super orang tua world cup winner and one "politician" in defence, how to be dependable?)

Ranieri, for all his bad attitude and image, he's very strong and sure in his tactics. He wouldn't just change tactics to suit certain players and brings the whole players' harmony down. He's known as tinkerman for a reason. But the reason why we din't like him is he doesn't give new and young players a chance (Immobile, Gio, De Ceglie etc.).

Surely. If we can call ranieri a bad coach. Well ferrara was worst.
Ranieri the bad coach with his average team last season DID finish top
of the group containing real madrid & zenit and were out from UCL
with our head held high after the closed game vs chelsea. But this season
with better lineup ferrara's team been outplayed by all bayern,bordeaux
& maccabi(if its wasn't for buffon we could finish last of our group-watch
his performance vs maccabi home & away).

Nah, a pics worth a thousand words

*taken from goal.com poll



honestly speaking..i don't want to wait anymore/giving more time to ferrara until were
got trash again in europa league..now dat would be unacceptable. Or worse we could lose
our top 4 spot to either roma or fiorentina if they continue to played like this..with no spirit
and winning mentality. Pls find someone who qualified for the seat.

This post has been edited by noir7559: Dec 10 2009, 09:51 AM

juve n liverpool could hunting for the "goose"

Someone send a msg to blanc that our friend noir here is very much qualified tactically to coach juventus . haha

I think worse still could happen, not only juventus might lose top 4 spot, Italy might lose 4 UCL spots....

haha i don't have blanc number la..else im gonna sms him going for an interview lol

no coaching license oso can ar..? Avram grant has no prob did it with chelsea

Can..I remember one of the serie A clubs did it before also..Can't remember which....

well, reading the posts here on jfcm site...most of them shared the same boat with
me lar

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