As kayroll says, nothign u can do unless u go into the service menu and make some changes. It has a strong green push and is a known problem with the S10. However, it can be calibrated out.

Again, something that needs to be done in service menu, there is a setting called sub-brightness that can be adjusted to bring the set out of black faster or slower. Can you let me know how u adjusted the brightness? Was it using a windowed pattern or full black pattern? What test patterns did u use? Also what r u viewing it with, HTPC, media player?

Calibration shd be done after 200hrs so that the phospors have settled.

post pics or vids of your set up i want to see how 1080p mkvs and 720p mkv in your 50s10k

I've been meaning to start a thread on LYN on using basic test patterns for simple calibration of contrast, brightness, sharpness but have not had the time. I have asked permission from the owner of the test patterns if I can link them, so for now, pls PM me so I can send u the link and some basic instructions to at least get ur brightness, contrast settings correct.

BTW, these settings are no use to do anything.

Lightning,

Contrast at 100 is too high for a plasma, pls reduce it since it is still new. I believe the last time I calibrated a S10 it was around 80+ only.

that is very obvious... maybe after break in should be ok already

lightning69,

This is expected from the S10. As I mentioned earlier, this will not reduce or go away with break in. This needs to be calibrated out. Unfortunately, it requires someone to navigate in the service menu and shd not be attempted without knowledge, care and preferably with a meter.

Yes to know what the effect of making these adjustments do, you would need spectrophotomer or a colorimeter. And a software to go with that.

BTW, you cannot get a ruler flat gamma curve on any panasonics. They either crush blacks to get a 2.2 gamma or u are stuck with correct black levels but gamma of 1.9-2.0. This in turn will wash out the whites....

Also All DRV, All Cut don't do anything except raising the brightness and contrast.

One thing that needs to be also changed is the Sub-Brigthness, this can improve the gamma in the low light levels.

You can try anything its ur set. U just need to be careful in the service menu as pressing the wrong button and saving can brick ur set.

For greyscale the adjustments need to be RCut,GCut, BCut, RDrv, GDrv amd BDrv.

I calibrated a S10 before. I cannot remember if I had to change both Green Cuts and Drv to remove the green tint. Also I believe I had to do more that that to get a proper greyscale. The problem is if u change it too much, u risk ending up with a blue or red tint. Also changing this can change the brightness as well on the low scale.

The good thing is that post calibration the set looked pretty good with no green tinting anymore.

lightning,
I cannot think of a safe way of telling you what to do, especially since I do not have  S10 in front of me. As such, I am wary of giving the wrong info.

As I told you, when I get the chance to calibrate the next S10 and the owner allows me to share the service menu offsets I will post if I feel the risk is low.

I will not be responsible for anyone messing around in the service menu and bricking ur set.

saw both S10 & B650 at HN Pyramid.  they didnt placed them side-by-side tho..i had to run back & forth to compare them...

actually feel that B650 had the upper hand..color a lot more vibrant..but both had demo disc on (different disc) so very difficult to compare.

in terms of reflections, to me (dun fire me) i feel even Kuro 9G also gives reflections. but the area is brightly lid...so inevitably, reflections will be very visible...i just dun find reflection to be a major problem..esp since i'll be watching in rather dimmed or dark environment..

both can get same price from forumer here..exact same price that is without any freebies...so its back to the 1 basic question, Panny or Sammy.

on 1 hand, S10 is considered an entry level Plasma on panny's range.  reliable brand, japanese but in terms of final PQ output, losses out to B650.

on another, B650, is considered a mid-level Plasma (above series 5), good PQ, but reliability is still a question, known IR problem, korean.

       

In Kuching, quoted 2 days ago, RM5250

lol~~ how about p50s10k? p42s10k RM3999 is quite cheap though~~~