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post Jun 30 2009, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Jun 30 2009, 09:07 AM)
Still not recommended to go Sony centre to buy la. LOL. 50mm for me sometimes also too far. Use UWA for portraits. =p
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have to go really close lo? but UWA damn fun la...go get one....

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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ Jun 30 2009, 09:17 AM)
just of a matter of preferences... coz my fren does bought his alpha at SS...
some people get the feeling ease of mind coz they get their stuff from the brand outlet itself..
not just from other retailer...
the exaggerated angle of view =  flex.gif
the only thing i hate with wide aperture opening is the shallow DOF... can easy OOF la..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif
around f2.8 slightly better la...
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yes agree that it wil be easier to OOF...that is why i think 50mm is good for headshots and 85mm for full body smile.gif just me la maybe:)

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post Jul 1 2009, 10:38 AM

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folks:good deal..tammy trade 1680:
http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80831
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post Jul 1 2009, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(andymillenium @ Jul 1 2009, 10:49 AM)
Erm..could you explain abit more on how to manual focus to create that effect?  notworthy.gif
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i dunno if i`m right or not la..he is trying to show the viewing angle will change as focal length changes but not the DOF.

In order to get the same size (gremline) using different focal length, u will need to move your cam.

try this:

using your kitlens at 18mm, fill the entire frame with "something"
then tune it to 24mm and fream the entire frame with "something"
do the same at 70mm ...

compare 3 pictures..and u will understand it:)
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ Jul 1 2009, 10:58 AM)
maybe dun need MF all the way... set up AF to "spot"....

if u wanna make the size same at all zoom... u need to move back/forward a bit..
it actually not exactly same size la.....

did u notice that when u MF... while u twist the focus ring.. the subject size is different?
i think dats why u can see from the sites photo some of em are OOF a bit...
but doesnt matter as they were comparing the size.. rite..?  rolleyes.gif
try it... i did that long time ago when i got my camera.. playing around with it..

ps: plis korek me if ayam rong keh!
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I realized this on my tele lens where the front of lens will protrude during focusing....
dun remember that it changes on lens with internal focusing....need to try at home hahah (i hardly MF)

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QUOTE(millenia3000 @ Jul 1 2009, 11:00 AM)
omg... don't you just hate that unsettling feeling!!

CZ1680!!!!!!! and my tammy's still new...only thing that worries me is "Body condition 7.5/10"...  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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i dont mind the condition because tammy is no where near 1680WUAHAHAH

ok i shall delete that post to make u feel better wink.gif

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post Jul 1 2009, 11:10 AM

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pm him! smile.gif smile.gif how is ur digieye tripod?how much?
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:39 AM

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non alpha can join TT?
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:41 AM

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moo: maybe wana consider tokina 11-16 f/2.8? tokina 12-24 f/4?
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(millenia3000 @ Jul 1 2009, 11:41 AM)
dei spooky... ur not "non-alpha" ur "ex-alpha" ! biggrin.gif

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A-mount got meh?
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yeah now non-alpha but ex can kar?heheh...

erh, not sure...kena check..but review seems good and 12-24 seems cheap too...
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:59 AM

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hmmm okok....i am contemplating shud I get UWA or not haha..coz its quite fun (but see, its FUN only for me and not useful perhaps!)

for me, so long u can produce good pics then can liao...but then some are gear-heads smile.gif...or some upgrade or change coz it cant fulfill their requirements...
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QUOTE(millenia3000 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:09 PM)
haha yea man... it is fun indeed... but when ur poor... spending on smth just cos its fun does make ya feel guilty la... sad.gif  eh the tokina on canon got kan... patutla kawan happy je...

i don't know about gear-heads la... i admire the sifus who shoot really good pics, give good advice, and never knowledge-selfish... i just hate fanboys!
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nah, might not get the tokina one...perfer sigma with HSM smile.gif...tamron doesnt come with such technology right?
hmmm...thinking of what to shoot now wink.gif bored
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post Jul 1 2009, 12:50 PM

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imagining if i have UWA:
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post Jul 1 2009, 12:52 PM

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albert: fell in love with it smile.gif heheh, and after trying the tammy 1750 on my cam, i really dislike the focusing speed and noise...smile.gif
walk near near? i cant leh, have to swim over smile.gif..besides, they are super scary...NAKED somore...

they actually came nearer to me , (yes they SWIM!) and pose for me and then came nearer asking for money...of course la i ran for my life haha...(i deleted the pic where they posed ...coz its pretty ugly)

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 1 2009, 12:50 PM)
dingenius3: Some lenses change angle of view when focusing (the effect is particularly noticeable on internal focusing lenses.)

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i tot it is the other way round?
can i say that lens with rotating front is external focusing while non rotating is internal focusing?

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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ Jul 1 2009, 01:05 PM)
aiyo maa.. aiyo paa~~ come la... no restriction...
even people got no camera at all pun can join wat..  nod.gif
dats funny man... i hope they are not cannibals... where exactly u shot that pics?
What: Mo0 TT Session #2 !!

When: Thursday, 2nd July 2009
Time: 8pm ++
Where: Mamak Shop (Jamal Mohammad) beside Uptown Police Station (nearby) and OldTown

Who's coming?

1. Mo0
2. dingenius3
3. mie_75 + frens ? << ok tak cik puan  laugh.gif
4. millenia3000
5. signither ????
6. craziqbal (tentative)
7. spooky (tentative)
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Thanks, will try to make it...
i shot that in floating village cambodia smile.gif

Added on July 1, 2009, 1:14 pmthe village:
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i went there to see this:
c&c pls
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post Jul 1 2009, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 1 2009, 01:34 PM)
SpOOkY: Looking at the picture again, I think you got the wrong idea where to take the picture. I would go tele from then on. Notice the kids on the darker house? You can make it a documentary-style thing. And yes, give them some loose change!

Kids are usually camera-shy so you should consider yourself lucky that they swam over to pose!

In your second picture, the clouds are over-dominating. Also I'd rather zoom in on the boat.

An ultra-wide would work if you were looking at a scene that was far more plain than this one, e.g. plain green grass field and blue sky. Here, I just see a load of detail crammed down there. Get in on it!

Also, was it cloudy? The color processing seems to suggest so. So work with the mood of the clouds. Look for the villager who looks up, thinking "it's going to rain." Get a close shot of his/her face looking up. Or find someone bringing in clothes (also signalling rain coming.)

Yes most rotating front lenses are external focusers. However the Minolta/Sony 50mm F1.4's front does not rotate but it does have external focus.

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they are freaking scary wei ...keep sticking around u for money and once u give then habis adi...the whole village were come to u hehe...okok get ur idea thanks...and the smallest change i have that time was USD1! its like RM3.50!!!!! smile.gif these kids arent shy at all...scary scary..

2nd pic, i do like the sky frankly, but yeah it makes the picture a bit flat...something like this perhaps? it gives better feeling i think...a feel of that place...erh duno if i managed to capture it smile.gif
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ooh...plain scene...okok..i suck at landscape..(maybe shooting in general)...plain as in something like the below?
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hhmm...the mood of the clouds...pretty hard for me to digest smile.gif..one part of the cloud is actually raining (or i should say one part of the sky haah)

Thanks for all of the comments..appreciate it...sorry for the SPAMS smile.gif

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 1 2009, 01:34 PM)
I see lotuses, a tiny monument (well in relation to the picture frame) and a reflection. And some rocks. But they're not gelling together, y'know
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i like this smile.gif smile.gif
so how you will shoot if you are there? I wana get the entire temple into the frame.....
something like that? Cleaner?
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 1 2009, 03:31 PM)
To get the entire temple... take a few steps back? Or try to remember to catch it on your way out. Or just take it at a hard angle (a few steps forward, screw the pond) and shoot it in portrait mode.

I shoot bands performing, regularly. It is rare that the entire band will be in a pose, or they are too far apart. So I end up taking individual pictures, as that works much better. Same goes for travel - if you can't get everything, or getting everything means things become small and unnoticeable, just focus on the details.

So, if the temple wall has interesting engravings, and the minarets are also interesting, shoot both separately!

Finally, don't be afraid to break the 3:2 ratio if you need to.

Check out this dude's shots:

http://wkcheang.blogspot.com/2007/07/in-last-30-days.html

Note that there is a strong presence of geometry in his shots.
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Albert: Thanks for the comments. Appreciate it!

Something like that perhaps?Catching the interesting stuffs:
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Catching part of the temple:
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Somehow i find that my pictures captured around 8am~11am (under direct strong sunlight) turned out to be hazy and blurry and weird......i duno why but they just look horrible. I couldnt check it while i was there because the sun was too strong that i can barely view it on my LCD. I am suspecting is due to my cheapo 77mm filter...could it be? sigh..i deleted alot of pic

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albert: ah sh*t, stupid filter....took them off once i got back from the trip though..sigh...converging lines? what does tat mean?
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thx again albert
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shukrie : pics are slanted, did it on purpose? nice slow shutter but it would be better if it comes with a theme, what are u trying to show?
i saw that it was raining in the far middle of the pic...it may be interesting if u zoom to that part instead?just my noob 0.02
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sorry din make it last night, reached home 2am smile.gif
spam: C&C pls:
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 4 2009, 03:49 AM)
A kit lens is a lens that is supplied in the box with a body - a lot of cameras come with more premium lenses that have internal focus. Of course Malaysia has gotten different sets - the A700 kit lens was supposed to be the 16-105mm but it never sold here. Instead we get the 18-250mm or 18-70mm combo.
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In Hong Kong, they are selling A700+1680cz smile.gif
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